Problems with alignment after lowering
RCer
01-02-2002, 08:17 PM
Have anyone here experience problems aligning(?) their car after lowering?
I have a friend with a primera with Intrax and stocks shocks, and he has some kind of problems when trying to fix the camber. Have anyone have the same problem? Have anyone solve it?
I have a friend with a primera with Intrax and stocks shocks, and he has some kind of problems when trying to fix the camber. Have anyone have the same problem? Have anyone solve it?
nis.k.a.
01-02-2002, 08:53 PM
You can't correct the camber on G20's without the "Third Link" camber kit. Of course you can always drill out the arm and weld washers, but that seems like a little too much work. As far as stock adjustment...can't do it.
kenchan
01-03-2002, 01:45 PM
hummm...never did take it into get it aligned after lowering my P11.....so i say, no need to align. hehhehe. :p
tires on my car is like 400 or 500AA and the car tracks straight, so it's like who cares.
tires on my car is like 400 or 500AA and the car tracks straight, so it's like who cares.
AznVirus
01-08-2002, 03:16 PM
on my old P10, i lowered it about 2.2 inches and got really bad camber. no way to fix it w/o a camber kit as nis.k.a. said. dont know who makes one for the P10 either.
T4 Primera
01-09-2002, 12:04 AM
Originally posted by AznVirus
on my old P10, i lowered it about 2.2 inches and got really bad camber. no way to fix it w/o a camber kit as nis.k.a. said. dont know who makes one for the P10 either. www.prestigeautomotive.co.nz Consists of two replacement third link arms, fitted with eccentric urethane bushes, coarsely adjustable at one end, and finely adjustable the other end. Price runs about US$165 + shipping. Check out their site. ;)
on my old P10, i lowered it about 2.2 inches and got really bad camber. no way to fix it w/o a camber kit as nis.k.a. said. dont know who makes one for the P10 either. www.prestigeautomotive.co.nz Consists of two replacement third link arms, fitted with eccentric urethane bushes, coarsely adjustable at one end, and finely adjustable the other end. Price runs about US$165 + shipping. Check out their site. ;)
G-Forces
01-09-2002, 10:08 AM
Originally posted by T4 Primera
www.prestigeautomotive.co.nz Consists of two replacement third link arms, fitted with eccentric urethane bushes, coarsely adjustable at one end, and finely adjustable the other end. Price runs about US$165 + shipping. Check out their site. ;)
Ohh they make it for the P11 too! Soooo tempting!
www.prestigeautomotive.co.nz Consists of two replacement third link arms, fitted with eccentric urethane bushes, coarsely adjustable at one end, and finely adjustable the other end. Price runs about US$165 + shipping. Check out their site. ;)
Ohh they make it for the P11 too! Soooo tempting!
AznVirus
01-09-2002, 03:17 PM
wow thanks for the link, guess we CAN solve the camber problem then :D
T4 Primera
01-09-2002, 05:58 PM
I also know where to get eccentric rear bushes for the lower front suspension arm - this enables CASTER adjustment. They are made by Superpro and run between US$12 - 30 each + shipping.
Contact: [email protected] or website: http://www.georgestock.co.nz These guys do heaps of Primera stuff, have a Koni workshop for custom work and also do KYB, King Eibach etc. With the exchange rate at NZ$ = approx. 0.43 US$, it might be worthwhile for you guys to source some stuff from here ...
Contact: [email protected] or website: http://www.georgestock.co.nz These guys do heaps of Primera stuff, have a Koni workshop for custom work and also do KYB, King Eibach etc. With the exchange rate at NZ$ = approx. 0.43 US$, it might be worthwhile for you guys to source some stuff from here ...
bump909
01-31-2002, 08:48 AM
i'm definitely interested. i'm just wondering if this would be the best way to correct my alignment since the car has previously been in an accident. it seems like it might be my only option.. plus the price is just right. now i'll just have to wait for my tax return and i'll order most likely. T4, should i work with you on this deal, or should i go directly through prestige automotive?
Cue-Ball
01-31-2002, 01:42 PM
If your car has been in an accident, the best way to correct your alignment is to fix the car. You shouldn't need to use aftermarket parts to fix a problem caused by an accident. The car was able to be aligned correctly when it rolled off the assembly line and should be exactly the same if you get it properly fixed. Adjusting the front suspension to the proper specs won't do you a bit of good if the entire car is twisted or crooked. I'd take it to a frame straightener and have them make sure the car is completely straight and true before you start replacing suspension components.
JasIzBac
01-31-2002, 01:54 PM
so then what would happen if i just got my car lowered and aligned without getting the camber kit? and how many of you in here have a camber kit on ur G20's?
T4 Primera
01-31-2002, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by bump909
i'm definitely interested. i'm just wondering if this would be the best way to correct my alignment since the car has previously been in an accident. it seems like it might be my only option.. plus the price is just right. now i'll just have to wait for my tax return and i'll order most likely. T4, should i work with you on this deal, or should i go directly through prestige automotive? If I were to purchase them on your behalf, then 12.5% GST would apply. Much simpler and cheaper to deal directly through Prestige Automotive and/or George Stock & co via e-mail. You should not be charged GST if you deal directly with them since it is an overseas order. I have no idea what shipping will cost for these.;)
i'm definitely interested. i'm just wondering if this would be the best way to correct my alignment since the car has previously been in an accident. it seems like it might be my only option.. plus the price is just right. now i'll just have to wait for my tax return and i'll order most likely. T4, should i work with you on this deal, or should i go directly through prestige automotive? If I were to purchase them on your behalf, then 12.5% GST would apply. Much simpler and cheaper to deal directly through Prestige Automotive and/or George Stock & co via e-mail. You should not be charged GST if you deal directly with them since it is an overseas order. I have no idea what shipping will cost for these.;)
MitchQ45
02-07-2002, 02:34 AM
the thing is lowering a car always makes the camber more negative..which in moderation actually increases handling on curves because u get more tire contact..the problem however is that the insides of ur tires are going to wear more than the rest which means u have to periodically demount and flip the tire on the rim so that both sides will wear evenly..but if ur tires r directional then i don't think u can do that
pche059
02-07-2002, 03:23 AM
MitchQ45...
hehe i guess you'd be right with most cars..but that is not true with our G20...esp the p11...when you lower a p11...the design of the suspension will actually give you a positive camber increase...
which very often will end up with a positve camber (fronts)...which really kills the handling
hehe i guess you'd be right with most cars..but that is not true with our G20...esp the p11...when you lower a p11...the design of the suspension will actually give you a positive camber increase...
which very often will end up with a positve camber (fronts)...which really kills the handling
SE-R_Dan
02-07-2002, 02:14 PM
So is there enough adjustment on the P11 to lower the car and set stock alignment specs? Do I need this "third link" kit to do so?
I just bought Luke's P11 w/SR20DET and it has the JIC coilovers. I'm not too knowledgeable about P11 suspension specifics (though I have read the blurb in SCC several times), but the car is lowered and the outside edges of the front tires are wearing pretty quickly. Luke mentioned getting some sort of performance oriented alignment before, so I was thinking of raising the car just a tad in the front and getting a more tire-friendly alignment.
I'm not interested in driving the car on the track (yet). What do I need to know about P11s before I take it to the shop? (And Luke if you read this, what was the name of the shop you recommended again?)
If anyone can point me to any web resources on the P11 or past threads where I can learn more, I'd appreciate it.
Dan
I just bought Luke's P11 w/SR20DET and it has the JIC coilovers. I'm not too knowledgeable about P11 suspension specifics (though I have read the blurb in SCC several times), but the car is lowered and the outside edges of the front tires are wearing pretty quickly. Luke mentioned getting some sort of performance oriented alignment before, so I was thinking of raising the car just a tad in the front and getting a more tire-friendly alignment.
I'm not interested in driving the car on the track (yet). What do I need to know about P11s before I take it to the shop? (And Luke if you read this, what was the name of the shop you recommended again?)
If anyone can point me to any web resources on the P11 or past threads where I can learn more, I'd appreciate it.
Dan
T4 Primera
02-09-2002, 03:38 PM
Originally posted by SE-R_Dan
So is there enough adjustment on the P11 to lower the car and set stock alignment specs? Do I need this "third link" kit to do so?
Dan Camber and Castor are not adjustable in either P10 or P11 in stock form. I'm in the process of determining the very info you require in this thread:
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t28261.html
If we can get enough people to post their numbers here, it will give you the info you require for determining your drop in relation to camber issues.;)
So is there enough adjustment on the P11 to lower the car and set stock alignment specs? Do I need this "third link" kit to do so?
Dan Camber and Castor are not adjustable in either P10 or P11 in stock form. I'm in the process of determining the very info you require in this thread:
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t28261.html
If we can get enough people to post their numbers here, it will give you the info you require for determining your drop in relation to camber issues.;)
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