Swedish Supercar better than F1

cant believe it

"Swedish Supercar?" I hear you questioning....Well actually yes! The Koenigsegg CC is a brand new supercar from Sweden that is aiming to take the title of the fastest production car away from the McLaren F1!

The name of the car comes from Christian von Koenigsegg who is the creator of the whole project, and CC stands for competition coupe.

The CC is powered by an all-aluminium Formula 1 derived supercharged V8 engine that produces 650hp and 750Nm of torque. The sprint to 60mph should take only 3.2 seconds! And what's more important is that the CC's top speed will top 240 mph (385km/h)- enough to outgun the production version of the McLaren F1 and make it the fastest production car on earth!

Power is delivered to the rear wheels via a six speed gearbox that can either be operated through a wheel mounted paddleshift or a standard gearstick. Also, in true race car form, the car's suspension, brakes and aerodynamics can be adjusted from the drivers seat to meet changing driving conditions.

Finally, the expected price of the CC is $300,000 which might sound like a lot but we really think it is a bargain compared to McLaren F1's price.

What else can we say? We are really amazed that there are still people so passionate about cars that can succesfully carry out such a difficult and awesome project! The least we can do is include the Koenigsegg in our FantasyCars database as soon as possible so check back for that!

I love this pic.

A little bit of info and pics right here:
http://www.fast-autos.net/koenigseggcc.html

I'm sorry but that thing is ugly! it has nothing on the mclaren and won't get the praise that the mclaren has. it just looks too much like the pagani zonda for me:rolleyes:

JE123, That is by far the coolest pic of any car. I love that one too!

the only thing that can beat an F! is an F1LM.

It is cool!

OK, the engine is a supercharged Ford SVT Mustang V8. Granted, it shares little with the Ford engine now, but it is still a ford engine. Also, people have challenged that top speed, believing it to be closer to 220mph. But good nonetheless.:cool:

The Lotec Sirius is by far the most powerful production car built. http://wwwstud.fh-zwickau.de/~ao/lotec_sirius/lotec_sirius_08.jpg
V12 turbo
5987 cm³
1200 hp @ 6800 rpm
958lbs ft@ 3400 rpm

Fastest is 2002 Bugatti 16/4 Veyron at 252mph.

ok... Roadster2, go to Car Comparisons and look for an older thread called McLaren F1 versus Koeniggsegg CC. read that and come back here.


Sindie, the 16/4 hasn't come out yet so there aren't any top speed numbers available. ;) that is one sweet looking Sirius though!!

This is what would happen to me if I owned any of the cars mentioned...
http://rapidcars.com/images/badiablocarsh.gif

Go here to see the rest (http://www.rapidcars.com/crash2.html) ... Kind of nasty.

BTW - The Sirius is not a production car, it's only a concept car right now...

Its one hell of a concept though. While I'd love to have a car like that, I would be pretty damn careful driving it for a long time. That kind of power is outside of anything I've ever driven.

That's kind of why I posted pictures of the car crashes. The power in the wrong hands (including my hands ;) ) is deadly.

Is there a body in that car. I think I see a head in that pic of the car crash. Does anybody else see this?

ewww man i hope it isnt, i see what ur talkin about though

Mmm.. Lotec... Oooh, Koenigsegg... Dammit! I love my Porsche! Don't tempt me! :mad: :D

Forget the Swedish car. The fastest "production" car is the '94 Dauer 962. Although this was a Le Mans car, the road version is not just a race car with 2 seats. It is kinda luxurious, and was built as a proper road car. This thing has a twin turbo inline 6 with 730 hp. 0-60 takes 2.6 seconds and reaches a top speed of 250 mph dead. i think this should get the credit it deserves as the fastest road car ever, and i bet it leaves the McLaren for dead through the corners
http://www.supercars.net/PicFetch?pic=1994_dauer_962_lemans-2.jpg

On the subject of expensive write offs, i know someone whose F40 got burnt out! When in for a service at the ferrari dealer they had to lift the engine out to complete the service and in doing so knocked the fuel line against the engine. When the guy drove it the fuel line rubbed thru and leaked onto the red hot engine, and then caught fire and burnt out. He now has a new one though :D

Yeah, 962's are kind of top of the food chain. Except for a 917/30... I think that is the fastest street car.

I remember a Road and Track issue, they put a 962 against a nascar Chevrolet, and the stock car won.

Of course, they had the 962 set up for full race downforce, so it couldn't get above about 230mph. The stocker was running little downforce, and made 240mph

a great car but i relly prefer the F1, this one looks a bit too ugly.....

962's and 917's r nearly the same thing arent they? or at least they were both overseen by porsche.

Id love to see that Chevy try and live with the dauer thru a corner tho:frog:

ok that pic is okay but it is nothing compared to a Mclaren F1

Pennzoil GT-R ...
What do you mean by dead? Do you mean no drag? Please point a url that backs your bogus statments! From a relyable source... Not some pos website that talks about glam cars...:rolleyes:

i'm gonna have to throw my support at it ( :finger4: ). That's damn good specs for 300k, when (and yes, look, 2001, no prototype designation) the f1 came out it was what, even mil?

Originally posted by Stormy
Pennzoil GT-R ...
What do you mean by dead? Do you mean no drag? Please point a url that backs your bogus statments! From a relyable source... Not some pos website that talks about glam cars...:rolleyes:

by "dead" i mean exactly. the car does 250 mph exactly. for the info goto http://www.supercars.net/ . i hope this site is up to the required standard for you?:finger:

True those cars my in the end be faster, but can any of them claim to have GOLD in the engine bay???



I didn't think so.

Or how about Titanium tools with the toolkit being shaped to the tools in the car? Or soon having the ability to diagnose problems anywhere in the world (not having to take it to the dealership. they also will know how fast you have gone for how long, and highest engine speed). Or everytime you get the car worked on having every bolt touched replaced with a new one??



...sorry for the rant got carried away. But I'm sure you get the point. Most of those cars are being designed to beat the f1 in specs but what about service and build quality??

Originally posted by lloyd_nickens
True those cars my in the end be faster, but can any of them claim to have GOLD in the engine bay???

For $1,000,000 each i should hope they had gold in the engine bay, in fact for that much i would expect the whole damn car to be made out of gold

Originally posted by lloyd_nickens


Or how about Titanium tools with the toolkit being shaped to the tools in the car? Or soon having the ability to diagnose problems anywhere in the world (not having to take it to the dealership. they also will know how fast you have gone for how long, and highest engine speed). Or everytime you get the car worked on having every bolt touched replaced with a new one??



...sorry for the rant got carried away. But I'm sure you get the point. Most of those cars are being designed to beat the f1 in specs but what about service and build quality??

all of thoses details may be very good, but for £25,000 (about $38,00) a service, i would be pretty pissed off if it didnt have titanium tools and the ability to diagnose a problem anywhere in the world!

Is that 3 thousand 8 hundred or thirty-eight???

Cause if its the former-daaaaaammmmm***; If its the latter then that aint too bad.


(of course if we could afford the car I don't think mantenence cost would be a worry)

Originally posted by lloyd_nickens
Is that 3 thousand 8 hundred or thirty-eight???

Cause if its the former-daaaaaammmmm***; If its the latter then that aint too bad.


(of course if we could afford the car I don't think mantenence cost would be a worry)

a service in britain costs £25,000, and i reckon that is maybe 38 thousand dollars?

and no matter how rich i was i would expect just a little bit more than a spare tyre for that much!

nice car:bandit: :smoka: :smoker2: :ylsuper

Originally posted by lloyd_nickens
Cause if its the former-daaaaaammmmm***; If its the latter then that aint too bad.

Why am I suddenly reminded of a pop tarts commercial ? :D

Originally posted by Pennzoil GT-R


a service in britain costs £25,000, and i reckon that is maybe 38 thousand dollars?

and no matter how rich i was i would expect just a little bit more than a spare tyre for that much!

Yeah I'd want fries too :p


Wow, that is expensive. I'd be afraid to drive it because I'd just die if I had to get anything fixed.

Man the joys of being rich, paying 38,000 dollars to have your oil changed. It must be nice to have that kind of money.

Originally posted by JE123
Is there a body in that car. I think I see a head in that pic of the car crash. Does anybody else see this?

I think so? Can't see clearly..

it's gotta be nutz trying to handle the power on those suckers..
i've never driven anything over 400hp.. and that was pushing it for me..

is this the f40 your talking about??

want one? easy

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im not sure. i never saw a picture of the burnt out car. but i know it was totally gutted, so that mite be it. there cant be too many burnt out F40's in the world.

The only reason I would want one of these is to keep it in Dehumidified storage for 20 years and sell it at a vastly inflated price to some poor idiot with no style sense and a lot of money. :spit:

I'd try to do that, but I just know it'd manage to clock several hundred thousand kms in the meantime ;)

Originally posted by eb110ss4life
is this the f40 your talking about??
the only thing to recognize a f40 in this pic are the wheels....

I noticed that too!

don´t think somebody survived in their ?

They probably got out of the car before it burned out...

But really, wouldn't you rather die than watch your F40 burn?

Originally posted by Cbass
They probably got out of the car before it burned out...

But really, wouldn't you rather die than watch your F40 burn?

yeh i would do, he told me about the whole thing, and he noticed that when he slowed down he could smell burning, and he stopped, got out the car and saw it was on fire. he was near some houses so he ran to them to get a fire extinguishers and call the fire services, but noone had anything to put out the fire and by the time the fire service arrived it was too late. he ended up sitting outside someones house watching it burn.

i have heard that it happend on a racetrack!
that would explain all the wheels

That is one wrecked car... They probably got the insurance money on it and bought an F50 anyway so itsn ot his problem. :)

you cannot talk that way about a car :(

Yes but the man is so rich it probably means nothing to him!!! Some people are like that. :(

like mr bean and his mclaren...:(

Basically yes. :( Sad, isn't it.

it´s really sad yea!
too much money is making sick

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Pennzoil GT-R
[B]Forget the Swedish car. The fastest "production" car is the '94 Dauer 962. Although this was a Le Mans car, the road version is not just a race car with 2 seats. It is kinda luxurious, and was built as a proper road car. This thing has a twin turbo inline 6 with 730 hp. 0-60 takes 2.6 seconds and reaches a top speed of 250 mph dead. i think this should get the credit it deserves as the fastest road car ever, and i bet it leaves the McLaren for dead through the corners


Hmmm. Every time I see this comment I keep remind myself (and others :)) that the Dauer 962 is barely homolagated in any countries while the McLaren F1 was fully homologated in the EU and the US.

Regards,
"Naamah"

But now is the 252MPH Bugatti Veyron.

Originally posted by JE123
Is there a body in that car. I think I see a head in that pic of the car crash. Does anybody else see this?

WAS ABOUT TO ASK THE SAME THING

Originally posted by naamah
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Pennzoil GT-R
[B]Forget the Swedish car. The fastest "production" car is the '94 Dauer 962. Although this was a Le Mans car, the road version is not just a race car with 2 seats. It is kinda luxurious, and was built as a proper road car. This thing has a twin turbo inline 6 with 730 hp. 0-60 takes 2.6 seconds and reaches a top speed of 250 mph dead. i think this should get the credit it deserves as the fastest road car ever, and i bet it leaves the McLaren for dead through the corners


Hmmm. Every time I see this comment I keep remind myself (and others :)) that the Dauer 962 is barely homolagated in any countries while the McLaren F1 was fully homologated in the EU and the US.

Regards,
"Naamah"

only country i care about is the one i live in, where pretty much any car is legal:D

Good, isn't it!!!

I hate you guys :P

Just kidding, I'll just have to content myself with Porsches and our ridiculously overpowered domestic hotrods... Hey, that's not so bad! :D

oh well, better than nothing.... I suppose.... just about :D

um....if XOTech were here.....i recently, just like 2 days ago, asked him about this car and he replied with....




Viper,

It is an interesting car, no question. It is different for sure. The car has yet to be tested to the figures they are promoting. It is clear that they are trying to better the McLaren (as everybody does). The Estimated top speed of 242.4mph is only 2mph more than the McLaren. But even the Estimated 0-60 times are slower than those tested for the McLaren (2.9-3.2s). Regardless, until the car can prove it can achieve those speeds and performances, nothing can truely be compared.

I am not convinced the car has adequate aerodynamic research to truely achieve the very high speeds above 220mph. I am an Aerodynamics Engineer by trade and am quite familiar with high speed automotive aerodynamics.

It appears that there is significant enough interest in the car that it may actually make it to production. It is hard to say.

Let me know if there are any other questions. It might be prudent to start a Forum on this very topic if there isn't one already.

so dont start to think that this car can beat the Mclaren yet, anyways isn't the Veyron going to be a production car?