Vr4/gsx?

Is there a difference between the galant vr-4 and the galant gsx?

Several , among other things the GSX is not turbo. It has the non-turbo version of the 4G63 , with the cast iron pistons , and without the piston oil squirters the turbo engine has. It still has the same 7000 rpm redline , though. The only engine option was the NT 4G63. The GVR-4 has AWS (all wheel steering) and Active ECS (electronically controlled suspension) . The GSX does not have those components , instead just having the same basic version of the AWD drivetrain found in the E/T/L cars. The GVR4 also other amenaties not found in the GSX , such as power leather seats , though they may have been an option. The GSX is also only available in 5-spd , the GVR4 had both AT and 5-spd's as options , but the GSX does get the GVR4's same 5-spd tranny , which is the more desirable swap in the DSM world , because of its taller 1st gear.
What the GSX lacks for power can be quickly rectified with a turbo engine and ECU swap , in which case I'm a firm beleiver that the GSX would be the faster car , given the fact it ends up being about 200 lbs lighter then the GVR4 , due to not having the AWS and AECS , and less heavy interior parts ( power seats weigh a LOT ) . The GSX is even rarer than the GVR4 , and also the only non-turbo AWD car Mitsubishi imported here. I can't get any definite production numbers on the GGSX , but I own the only one I've ever seen in Colorado.

just when i think i mean THINK i know a lot about cars, i get an answer like this from someone like yaself rockinwrx. i still have a lot to learn. it's too bad that they have to make a mag. dedicated to in depth car knewledge. i could look at chillton but not exactly what im talking bout.

thanks rockinwrx

I have a GTi 4WD [Euro version of GSX] which has 4-Wheel Steering. I was under the impression all of them came like this, but maybe the European version was different to the US ?

I also know there are a few [even rarer] ECS-equipped GTi/GSX cars, since the ECS was an option. I've even seen one person [in Canada I think] who has a GSX FWD with ECS, so I guess things got a little f***ed up when they were planning this car, since there seems to be every permutation on the options list you could get :s

Several , among other things the GSX is not turbo. It has the non-turbo version of the 4G63 , with the cast iron pistons , and without the piston oil squirters the turbo engine has. It still has the same 7000 rpm redline , though. The only engine option was the NT 4G63. The GVR-4 has AWS (all wheel steering) and Active ECS (electronically controlled suspension) . The GSX does not have those components , instead just having the same basic version of the AWD drivetrain found in the E/T/L cars. The GVR4 also other amenaties not found in the GSX , such as power leather seats , though they may have been an option. The GSX is also only available in 5-spd , the GVR4 had both AT and 5-spd's as options , but the GSX does get the GVR4's same 5-spd tranny , which is the more desirable swap in the DSM world , because of its taller 1st gear.
What the GSX lacks for power can be quickly rectified with a turbo engine and ECU swap , in which case I'm a firm beleiver that the GSX would be the faster car , given the fact it ends up being about 200 lbs lighter then the GVR4 , due to not having the AWS and AECS , and less heavy interior parts ( power seats weigh a LOT ) . The GSX is even rarer than the GVR4 , and also the only non-turbo AWD car Mitsubishi imported here. I can't get any definite production numbers on the GGSX , but I own the only one I've ever seen in Colorado.

Hmmmm.....you're right on some things but way wrong on others. I'm pretty sure your pistons are cast aluminum....not cast iron. Those would be a tad heavy. GVR4's came only with a 5speed and did not come with AECS. Also, zero GVR4's came with power seats although they were all leather. I am talking about the USDM versions here. If anybody wants to know more about the GVR4 you can read up on them at www.galantvr4.org .

Hmmmm.....you're right on some things but way wrong on others. I'm pretty sure your pistons are cast aluminum....not cast iron. Those would be a tad heavy. GVR4's came only with a 5speed and did not come with AECS. Also, zero GVR4's came with power seats although they were all leather. I am talking about the USDM versions here. If anybody wants to know more about the GVR4 you can read up on them at www.galantvr4.org .

Nope , sorry , YOU are wrong. I really hate people that try to tell me what my car has in it , especially when I have the FACTORY REPAIR MANUAL from Mitsubishi corporation itself. The NT 4G63 came with CAST IRON pistons. The TURBO version came with cast aluminum. :loser: GVR'4s DID come with AECS . And GVR4's DID come with power seats , as illustrated in the factory repair manual. I really hate it when people try to tell me things , and I have the FACTORY GVR4/GGSX repair manual within arms reach. :rolleyes:

Hey fuckstick....you may have a factory repair manual within arms reach but I have my GVR4 within my arms reach and it ain't got power seats or AECS. Don't even try to argue with me or the other 3000 USDM GVR4 owners that know better. See the pic in my sig? Yeah...hello? Duh... that's my GVR4. You're as bad as the parts guy at Shucks that tried to tell me GVR4's have automatics. Sorry buddy...not in the U.S..

Several , among other things the GSX is not turbo. It has the non-turbo version of the 4G63 , with the cast iron pistons , and without the piston oil squirters the turbo engine has. It still has the same 7000 rpm redline , though. The only engine option was the NT 4G63. The GVR-4 has AWS (all wheel steering) and Active ECS (electronically controlled suspension) . The GSX does not have those components , instead just having the same basic version of the AWD drivetrain found in the E/T/L cars. The GVR4 also other amenaties not found in the GSX , such as power leather seats , though they may have been an option. The GSX is also only available in 5-spd , the GVR4 had both AT and 5-spd's as options , but the GSX does get the GVR4's same 5-spd tranny , which is the more desirable swap in the DSM world , because of its taller 1st gear.
What the GSX lacks for power can be quickly rectified with a turbo engine and ECU swap , in which case I'm a firm beleiver that the GSX would be the faster car , given the fact it ends up being about 200 lbs lighter then the GVR4 , due to not having the AWS and AECS , and less heavy interior parts ( power seats weigh a LOT ) . The GSX is even rarer than the GVR4 , and also the only non-turbo AWD car Mitsubishi imported here. I can't get any definite production numbers on the GGSX , but I own the only one I've ever seen in Colorado.

The GVR-4 does not have Active ECS
The GVR-4 does not have power seats, nor was it an option
The GVR-4 came only in 5spd in the USA
The GVR-4 has a different 5spd tranny than the GGSX, and actually, the confusion has cost a lot of people damage to their rear diff. (wrong ratio)
The Mitsubishi Expos were also non-turbo AWD

Other than that, your facts are for the most part, correct.

drew
Galant VR-4 #872/1000

I too have a FACTORY REPAIR MANUAL from Mitsubishi within arms reach, as well as a CAPS CD, and something you don't have... A Galant VR-4.

P.S. The Galant VR-4 folk are laughing at you here http://www.galantvr4.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=002953

Nope , sorry , YOU are wrong. I really hate people that try to tell me what my car has in it , especially when I have the FACTORY REPAIR MANUAL from Mitsubishi corporation itself...

You may be right about the pistons. There are such things. Common in tractors. Also in unsleeved aluminum block engines (to reduce the friction that aluminum on aluminum creates). However, since your block is cast iron, I don't see why Mitsubishi would have chosen anything other than aluminum for the pistons. Nor do I think you would have a 7K redline with iron slugs.

As to the rest...

I guess somebody stole my power seat adjusters. Because my Galant VR4 seats adjust manually. Pretty much like every other Galant VR4 sold in the US.

AECS was never an option on US spec GVR4s. Even the Mitsubishi US dealer brochure does not list AECS as an option. The only options on the GVR4 were the sun roof, a sun roof visor, a graphic equalizer and a CD player.

ALL US market Galant VR4s came with a 5 speed manual. See above.

In the interest of avoiding drama I will not mention the unique repair manual storage option suggested by at least one member of the galantvr4.org site after reading your posts. Instead I will say simply that people like you who think they know it all are very annoying to those of us who actually do.

TOF

Learn a little more about this subject before you open your mouth, you no talent ass clown!

RockinWRX -

1) If you didnt see that post by Mark and realize that he owned a gvr4, I think thats a sign for you right there to shut up.

2)I do know a little about gvr4s too - having owned 8 gvr4's makes me qualified tell you the following:

- NONE of the USDM gvr4s came with AECS
- NONE of the USDM gvr4s had power seats -all gvr4s came with black leather. I know of one person who bought his gvr4 with tan leather, but the previous owner had done that to the car
- ALL of them were 5 speeds.

If you still think you are the shiznit, come to the galantvr4.org post mentioned above and try telling us that. If you do decide to do that, I would strongly suggest that you.....please bring the vaseline, else I hope you have a strong threshold for pain! mmmm, you sure are purdy! squeal like a little pig, boy!!!!!!

I love people who don't have a single clue about the cars they drive , and try to tell ME , who has been working on DSM's and Galant's for about 5 yrs , what is in them. I have the factory correct manuals for the ENTIRE 89-92 Galant line , which shows me power seats , AECS in the GVR4 , AWS , iron pistons in the NT 4G63 (with a 7000 rpm redline also) and other things that all you idiots are trying to tell me does not exist. So whatever , I don't really care. Wallow in your own stupidity , but don't force it on others. Especially when they know better. :loser:

Hey fuckstick....you may have a factory repair manual within arms reach but I have my GVR4 within my arms reach and it ain't got power seats or AECS. Don't even try to argue with me or the other 3000 USDM GVR4 owners that know better. See the pic in my sig? Yeah...hello? Duh... that's my GVR4. You're as bad as the parts guy at Shucks that tried to tell me GVR4's have automatics. Sorry buddy...not in the U.S..
Again you prove your own stupidity. I've personally worked on 2 automatic GVR4's. :rolleyes: Maybe you need to do a little research before you open your big stupid mouth. :loser:

Learn a little more about this subject before you open your mouth, you no talent ass clown!

I'm not the no talent ass clown. Apparently you are , since you don't have a clue. :rofl:

You may be right about the pistons. There are such things. Common in tractors. Also in unsleeved aluminum block engines (to reduce the friction that aluminum on aluminum creates). However, since your block is cast iron, I don't see why Mitsubishi would have chosen anything other than aluminum for the pistons. Nor do I think you would have a 7K redline with iron slugs.

WRONG , it has the same 7000 rpm redline as the T motor , with the same iron block. Are you stupid or what.

As to the rest...

I guess somebody stole my power seat adjusters. Because my Galant VR4 seats adjust manually. Pretty much like every other Galant VR4 sold in the US.

AECS was never an option on US spec GVR4s. Even the Mitsubishi US dealer brochure does not list AECS as an option. The only options on the GVR4 were the sun roof, a sun roof visor, a graphic equalizer and a CD player.

ALL US market Galant VR4s came with a 5 speed manual. See above.

In the interest of avoiding drama I will not mention the unique repair manual storage option suggested by at least one member of the galantvr4.org site after reading your posts. Instead I will say simply that people like you who think they know it all are very annoying to those of us who actually do.
Oh sorry , I guess since I've worked on them personally , I'm clueless. There's prolly a reason I'm not a member of the wannabe GalantVr4.org club. I suspect its because they are a bunch of idiots. I could care less what they think.


:loser: :lol:

so what you are saying is you wanna race my galant vr4? i too am from denver. i think you need to be educated!

:wtf: Oh, I see....apparently all the people that actually own gvr4's haven't the slightest clue. But you with all your vast Mitsu knowledge because you're the owner of a ggsx and own some fucking manuals know so much better than the three fucking thousand of us that actually own the car. Are you really this thick headed or is your skull just made out of cast iron?!

RockinWRX= :screwy:

I suggest you pull the head off your engine and take some pics of your cast iron pistons or snap some shots of these automatic trannies and electronic suspension or electric seats on the gvr4's you've worked on. Oh wait...you can't because they don't exist....... :bs:

Rockin.. You need to shut the fuck up man. Calling us "wannabe GVR4" owners? You shouldn't fucking talk Mr. Galant GSX thats 'doing a swap soon'. Thats pure GVR4 poser status. Seriously, We could get every active member on the galant board over here just to tell you to shut the fuck up and to tell you you don't know what in the fuck you're talking about. Stick to WRX's :grinyes: .

Do you know your shit? :shakehead :nono: :headshake

Just for the record, the VR4's we got over here in Australia don't have power seats or that ghey electronic suspension shite, and no VR4 on the planet came from factory with an automatic. And before you go on about what you have over there, blah blah, they all came from the same bloody factory in Japan. I'd trust the guys I've been talking to over on our galantvr4.org "n00bie club" for the last 3+ years before I'd trust someone who can't admit when they are wrong.

my 2c

geeze......u guys in here are worse than the 240 forum :screwy:

Guys, go easy. WRX said that the NT version has iron pistons, not the GVR4. Everyone's so quick to jump.

The GGSX has a lighter interior (cloth) also used on the RS EVO Galant for that reason (and because it was cheaper and assumedly to be ripped out for rally seat replacement)

The GSX does not have AWS.

He's right, although I don't know about the pistons in the GGSX, iron or alu. Doesn't really matter.

Rockin WRX is also right about the taller first gear swap.

Alex

RockinWRX - WTF, dude? Really, I mean WTF are you saying? You seriously need to get your head out of that filthy ass of yours and take a deep breath of fresh air coz you are talking shit.

If you have worked on these auto gvr4's, please produce some info like owner contact or VIN no's. We have several resources on the gvr4 board who can find info on these "elusive cars". Shit...You give us the VIN of your car and we'll tell you more about it than you know...

If you cannot admit you are wrong, then just shut the fuck up. Dont try to tell 300+ people who have the same car what they have....you are outnumbered, beeeyatch. Its just that simple.

We have members from Australia and NZ like Ash who just posted and the others too can tell you about auto gvr4's if you'd like, but there are NONE in the US. Get that in your head. Yo must have been delerious or on something when you worked on these cars.

Where do you live? I am sure we have gvr4 members in the same town. You should be able to tell them where we he/she can find this auto gvr4 with EACS and power seats and we'll believe you. JonVr4 is in the same area as you, he will gladly verify for us and we can all live happilyy ever after.

I dont know how you even own a WRX, its a shame. You need to sell it and an old Integra with dents, rust and big fart can on the back. Dont forget the huge acura decal on the rear glass. It'll look good parked next to that trailer you live in and work on these auto gvr4s...

I am done with your dumb ass. You are fucking stoopid and you know it. All you can do is talk about your manuals - every member on our board almost has one, so whooptie ding-dong. If yo have proof about these cars, bring it. No point typing anymore since you are pretty much a waste of space and need to dig a hole and bury yourself in it.

For everyone out there thinking we are taking this too seriously - yes we are! Gvr4 owners are proud of their rare cars. We try to learn as much as we can about them and working on them as well as help educate others. We dont give a shit about altezza lights, dual-deck wings and its damn hard to find a riced out gvr4. If we do, it probably is owned by someone like rockin. We find it insultng when jackasses like him talk shit, we try to correct him nicely and he seems to want to tell us we are wrong etc etc. Now, thats a bunch of crap...

By the way, I'm a vr4.org member and I don't want you to think we're all aholes. I've been a gvr4 owner since 1997 on the old onelist, then the egroups list, not the yahoogroups list then the galantvr4 webboard.

Alex - I dont consider myself to be one, but when it comes to people like him, I dont mind..as you can tell. If he comes on our board and takes outta his ass like this, I will delete all his posts and have him booted

PS - I have seen bigger assholes than you on bangbus :)

I'm a Galant GSR owner (rockin, if you don't know what that is, it's a FWD version of your car) and I have to say that a particular person has posted numerous posts of Garbage that has actually made me feel dumber for Reading.

So I guess all the information I've learned about VR4s and DSM's from working on them and talkin to people who own them and work on them is obsolete???

It's not that you quoted misinformation, it's the fact that you told numerous guys who work on GVR4s only that they're wrong, and I know for a fact that a couple of those guys have been tuning their cars, the for quite a while. who cares if you got a god damn factory book, who doesn't?...so stfu go earn about that wrx of yours, and sell your GSX...do us all a favor. :thefinger:

and please sell your wrx too.


I even took the time to register to tell you that so please don't let me down.

Thanks for making me dumberer today.

-b

we are laughing at you at NASIOC too!

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=415714

u guys act like a bunch of :loser: osers.....geeze

u guys act like a bunch of :loser: osers.....geeze

You must be a friend of RockinWRX......It's good that he's got a friend. Enjoy your civic. :rolleyes:

BluCivic:

The point is he can't admit that he is wrong about those particular details, and the way he attacked Turbowop for simply correcting him. I'd just like to repeat that there was never any auto VR4's released over here either, afaik none ever were until the twin turbo v6 models.

Guys, go easy.

Rockin WRX is also right about the taller first gear swap.

Alex

Taller first gear but wrong final gear. GGSX trannies kill DSM/GVR4 rear ends.

See, the thing is I was ready to assume you were wrong about the pistons because you were so obviously wrong about so many other things. I may have been the one in error on the iron slugs. There…I have admitted that I sometimes make a mistake. Are you man enough to do the same?

As to the automatic GVR4s you worked on, I suggest the following possibilities in order by increasing likelihood:
a) They were overseas models imported by their owners
b) They were rebadged and converted GSXs (Oh…I forgot…they didn’t offer any automatic GSXs)
c) You dreamed it
d) You made that factoid up in an effort to give yourself some credibility or
e) Your crack-impaired memory has failed you yet again

The thing that got us all riled up is these facts you threw around based mostly on a manual that is confusing, applies to at least two countries and a half dozen models, and is probably about five grade levels above your reading comprehension level.

And for someone who could care less what we think you sure do get riled up!

Let me close with a poem:

With regard to Galants and to our VR-fours
You might want to defer to those in the know.
Our experience and knowledge just blow off your doors
And your pitiful retort attempts simply blow.

The slush boxes you worked on and claim to have fixed,
Show you lacking in knowledge as well as in class
The electrical seats that you know DO exist,
Let me know that you can't tell your head from your ass.

So when we get this feeling way deep in our gut
That you might be an ignorant fool and a lout
It might just be better to keep your mouth shut
Than to post your opinions and remove any doubt.

Your posts have revealed it. You're really a veg.
And you shouldn't have thrown all those mad flames my way.
'Cause if they put your poor brain on a razor blade's edge
It would look like a b-b on an eight lane highway.

Regards,
TOF

How about posting what section and page number of the FSM that you are getting your info from?

I have both here at work, the hard copy factory service manual and the CD/Adobe Acrobat version that includes the Talon and Eclipse. Might also have a copy of the official Mitsubishi CAPS program and CD to be able to check part numbers.

Oh, and if you look around the GVR-4 site, there are copies of the sales brochures from 91 and 92, magazine articles from Car and Driver, Road and Track and a few others. My original window sticker is posted there too...

#334/1000
Proud owner since Nov 1991


I love people who don't have a single clue about the cars they drive , and try to tell ME , who has been working on DSM's and Galant's for about 5 yrs , what is in them. I have the factory correct manuals for the ENTIRE 89-92 Galant line , which shows me power seats , AECS in the GVR4 , AWS , iron pistons in the NT 4G63 (with a 7000 rpm redline also) and other things that all you idiots are trying to tell me does not exist. So whatever , I don't really care. Wallow in your own stupidity , but don't force it on others. Especially when they know better. :loser:

Pretty obvious you guys are the crackheads to me. Seems you need to learn more about your own cars. I certainly know where NOT to come for advice. Not like I need the advice of obviously brainless people anyway. I've been working on DSM's and Galants in general for about 5 years , so I'm pretty sure I know more than you freaks do. Not to mention I'm ASE certified , prolly the only one on this board from what I can tell. :lol:

I have the feeling that you sir, are a 15yo.

ASE certified.....BWwaaahahahahahahahahahah!!! Aren't some of the parts idiots at Pep Boys and Shucks ASE certified?

You're a certified FUCKHEAD!! :rofl:

I have the feeling that you sir, are a 15yo.

I have the feeling , that you , sir , are an ass.................. :lol: :loser:

Yes, I am an ass the owns a Galant VR4. Look, calm down a minute & see the truth. Don't you think that maybe, just maybe, people who own the damn thing may have a clue?

Give it up, Ash. The man (or whatever) has dug in his heels...all the deeper after being on the receiving end of a serious flame war. The man is en fuego. And he is obviously the type who cannot admit he is wrong...the type of mechanic I would never take my car to. Mechanics, like physicians, computer technicians, and anybody else who fixes complex systems need a little humility along with a lot of confidence.

I have the feeling , that you , sir , are an ass.................. :lol: :loser:

Actually I think you misread, again...He's an ash.

HAHAHAH

RockinWRX, your wrong about almost everything. The only thing you have a possibility of being right on is about the pistons in a NT 4g63. I really do think you are some teenaged kid who knows nothing about these cars and is BSing through your keyboard and hiding behind the internet.

How can you be so indignant to argue with this many GVR4 owners ? There are almost 1500 members on GVR4.org who know you are wrong.

Why not just admit it and be humble about your mistakes. Everyone makes mistakes.

You are a tool, btw. Please stop mis-informing other people who may not know as much as us (as in the GVR4 OWNERS).

RockinWRX you are wrong on pretty much all your points regarding the GVR4:

The GVR4 did not come with a electronic supension, power seats or auto transmissions, at least not in the U.S. I own one and I know of at least 4 other people here in the D/FW area who own GVR4's as well. You would think that with 5 GVR4's to choose from, at least ONE of them would have at least ONE of these "options" you described? These "options" you refer to, were never offered on ANY Galant VR-4 sold here in the U.S. It's a fact that can't be disputed. None of the advertising literature, or brochures mention any of these items being offered. CAPS does not have a listing for any type of Auto tranny parts, power seating equipment or Active Electronic Suspension equipment for the E39A. As far as the factory manual is concerned, it covers ALL models of Galants...GSR, GS, GSX, LS VR-4 etc. It would stand to reason that it would include information on the repair and maintenance of Auto transmissions, power seating equipment and electronic suspension items, since these options were available on various models of Galants, with the exception of the VR-4.

As far as the comments regarding the GGSX, I cant dispute that since I've only seen three Galant GSX's in my lifetime. However, a friend of mine is picking up a GGSX to swap his GVR4 engine and driveline into as a project car. Once we pull the weak NT 4G63 out of the car, I'll be happy to yank the head off and check for those "cast iron pistons" :screwy: that are supposed to be in the car. Hell, I'll even take pictures of them once they get yanked. But I think all I'm going to find is a set of aluminum pistons. Just call it a hunch.

Before you dismiss me as some clueless newbie, who doesn't know what he's talking about, be advised.....I've been modifying DSM's for a little over 5 years now. I've bled and sweat on them, hell one time I slept under one becasue I knew I would be there first thing in the morning anyway to finish it up. I'm almost as old as you claim to be, and I make my living as a mechanic on aircraft engines. DSM's are just a hobby. I don't know everything about these cars, but I know more than some of the guys working in the dealerships and I'm not afraid to admit when I dont know something. I dont think the GVR4 guys are being so hard on you because you passed on some bad information, but rather because you wont admit you are wrong. This is something that can get someone in trouble down the road, if they take your "knowledge" as gospel. In the aviation industry, people DIE when bad information is passed along as good. The consequences aren't nearly as high when dealing with cars, I for one would be pretty pissed if I nuked a rear end because you said a GGSX tranny would work with a GVR4/TEL rear end. "Well some guy on a message board said it would work.." "Did you check the final drive ratio?" "No, that guy sure seemed to know what he was talking about though..." Cold comfort... Grab a clue, man.

I have the feeling , that you , sir , are an ass.................. :lol: :loser:



Dude your hilarious, I dont even own a galant and i know that Vr4's dont have that shit :screwy:

http://www.dsm.org/cars/galant.htm#std_equip

uhmmmm yeah..............you are looking dumber and dumber as the day goes on.

Please note the VERY FEW factory options available on the vr4.

did the dealers do any options or have access to any special options :confused:

for a supposed ASE certified mechanic and a DSM tuner for 5 yrs....he sure runs slow times.

http://www.wrxyz.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=20173#post20173

for a supposed ASE certified mechanic and a DSM tuner for 5 yrs....he sure runs slow times.

http://www.wrxyz.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=20173#post20173

ROFL!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

guys check this out.

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=1191009

He claimed he pulled 1.5 60' times!!! haha!!

for a supposed ASE certified mechanic and a DSM tuner for 5 yrs....he sure runs slow times.

http://www.wrxyz.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=20173#post20173


not a very impressionable 1st post :shakehead mabey u can tell us if he made bad grade or not..... :gives:

not a very impressionable 1st post :shakehead mabey u can tell us if he made bad grade or not..... :gives:

BLUE CIVIC come on!! You are still sticking up for this guy?? People are just trying to show how full of it this guy is.

Did you read his post about 1.5 sec 60' times?? About how much of a bad ass his wagon was??

I haven't seen anybody get so owned so many times since............damn how about NEVER. haha

i decided that blu civic and rockin are actually either the same person or a little closer than just friends!this guy needs to just hang it up and admit that he's a clown!

had i known this thread was gonna go like this i would not have created but everything is still interesting. kinda like 'as the car lot turns'.

had i known this thread was gonna go like this i would not have created but everything is still interesting. kinda like 'as the car lot turns'.

Well....at least now you know who NOT to go to for info on the GVR4. I and all the guys at www.galantvr4.org are available for FACTUAL info. Also since rockinfucktard thinks that because the web address ends in .org it is a crappy, unknown website you can also use www.galantvr4.com . :rolleyes:

I have owned two GVR4s since '98,and there are 20 or so in my area,almost every freind of mine has had (or has..) two or three. I have seen enough to have a photographic memory of about every part of a GVR4. Im sure all the other guys who have tried to correct you have actual HANDS-ON experience as well,not just reading a shop manual (Not always correct BTW)...because they actually own the car!

No need to repete what everyone else has tried to explain about the auto trannys,ECS,seats ect ect...

No 4g63 has cast iron pistons-they are cast ALUMINUM.. (Yes,I can tell you this firsthand,Ive built several engines-including 4g63s..)That goes for NT or turbo. As a matter of fact,pistons in any automotive engine (including your WRX) will have aluminum pistons, usually forged or cast. Could you imagine how heavy a iron piston would be?? Could you imagine the force of them swinging around at 7000 rpm-It would take one HELL of a crankshaft and block!!!

You say you've worked on DSMs for 5+ years,you say that we are all wrong-and you are outnumbered... The burden of proof is on YOU..

ASE certified doesnt mean anything. Take one test (There is more than one...) and you are considered "ASE certified". All you have to do is study the book,go and take the test when its offered,pay the money,and if you pass you are "certified". Anyone can do pass a ASE test and NEVER actually touch a car,Ive worked at shops with "ASE certified mechanics" who dont know their ass from a hole in the ground when it came to actually working on something.


What "certifications" do you have?

RockinWRX - ASE certified - what the hell is that - ASshole Exploration? I doubt you are even capable of differentiating your head from your ass...no big difference in your case...shit seems to come from both!

RockinWRX: You fail at life. End yourself.

I'm going to laugh my ass off if you somehow link my only having one post to being an idiot. You know NOTHING about GVR-4s.

I bet you'll even deny that they're the 4 door sister to the 1G 2 door DSM (Those which we know as Talon, Laser, and Eclipse). I don't think you'll find THAT in your fucking manual.

It's probably the wrong manual anyways.

RockinWRX:

Please stop making AF look bad. You have been so obviously owned SO many times, I don't see how you can still walk, with your ass hurting so bad from being gang-raped repeatedly.

Please retain SOME dignity and either shut-up or 'fess-up.

BLU CIVIC:

I don't know the first thing about GVR-4's or GGSX's, but I can tell you this: one of my cars is a 1992 Sentra "Classic" SE-R. Coming from a rare, sleeper breed that not a lot of people know about gives you passion about the car. I found out almost EVERYTHING there is to know about my car within the first month of owning it. I doubt if the people that ACTUALLY own the GVR-4 would not know about such a significant an option as an auto tranny in their favorite car. ESPECIALLY coming from a specialty site DEVOTED to the car they love.

I would somewhat believe RockinWRX about GGSX's, because that is HIS car, and I'm sure hes done some research on it...BUT, the book he's betting his E-forum reputation on seems kinda iffy to me...unless he's mis-reading it. I mean, he said so himself that his manual covers ALL Galant models for certain years. C'mon...mine does too for Sentras. I'm not gonna sit there and claim my car has a carb just because the '88 Sentra also covered in my book has one.

Somebody already offered him VERY simple solution: tell him what page of the manual he's getting his "info" from, and they'll verify it with the same book. I guess he missed that posthttp://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/disappointed.gif. BTW, RockinWRX, if you ever want to answer that post, PM me, and I'll gladly re-open this thread to let youhttp://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/redface.gif.

For all the visitors:

I apologize in behalf of RockinWRX. I assure you not everybody here is nearly as hardheaded/stubborn/ignorant as he has displayed in this thread. Feel free to roam the rest of our massive forum, this thread is now closed.