Build your own P10 front kit

Here's a little info for anyone who wants to build their own front end.

I've found that the Accord (91) front kit fits the P10 very well.
The best way to get the closest fit (without major modification) is to
buy one that is square.

This list covers everything you need to make a one-piece front end:

Dremel w/cutting bit (Rotozip works even better)
#40, #80 grit sand paper
C-clamps (if attaching grill to kit)
Fiberglass resin (with chopped strand)
4 bendable (aluminum bars)@18 inches long
2 bars@10 inches
6 sets of 1 inch bolts, locknuts, large washers
A resporator

Start by removing your stock front end and grill. Once removed compare the top bumper lip to the kits lip. Use the Dremel to cut off any tabs or protrusions that won't let the kit fit snug. (It's snug when the fender-lines match the kits lines) My B.W. kit required that the vents below the headlights be cut back 2 inches because of clearance problems with front bumper.

Buying a kit with large front-vents will cause lots of extra work unless you want to remove your front bumper. (not recommended)

Any imperfections or mistakes can be filled in using fiberglass. Try to mix small quantities at a time. That way you wont get stuck trying to apply dry resin. (the better the kit's match to the stock bumper the less mess)

Once the bumper slides on and fits snug it should be proped up in place. Step back and take a minute to look at all the body lines. If everything is satisfactory pop your grill back in. (search the forum if you want info on customizing the grill)

Take a black marker and trace the line at the bottom of your grill exactly onto the top of the kit. Now remove your grill and rough up the bottom with #40 grit. You will also need to remove the kit and rough up the top of it. Run a strip of tape in front of the grill on the kit, this way the surrounding area won't accidentaly get sanded on.

Next place your grill on top of your kit and center it on the line. Make sure everything looks right. Get your clamps ready start mixing some fiberglass(strand). Goop some glass on the bottom of the grill and attach it to its spot on the kit. Use your clamps to smash the two together. Any excess resin oozing out can be wiped away. Give it at least a couple of hours before unclamping.

Your almost done :ylsuper

After removing the clamps the kit should fit your p10 nicely.

Note: if you are using a OEM grill you will need to cut the 4 plastic snaps off

Use the bars to make supports for the kit. The 4 long ones are for front and bottom/side support. The 2 ten inch bars are to be connected at the stock bracket on the bottom front of the fender, and attached to the inner fender of the kit. To do this it will need to be bent in the shape of an "L". With this setup I noticed absolutly no flex in my kit.

Sorry about the lack of pic's, i'll post bracket pics when I get my digicam back.

Well I hope this helps. If theres any info you think I missed, tell me.

Damian Stevens
94 P10

If you want a easier custom one piece front end for the p10, just do what I did

Buy
Stillen Front bumper (for 99+p11)

Cut
stock bumper 2-3 in. down (a little above stock side marker lights)

Mold
stillen bumper to upper portion of stock bumper (various adhesives)

prime and paint


Requires no modification to stillen bumper

Pics have been posted on here a few times.

Just my 2cents

What about the rear bumper? Any instructions and more importanly any pic's?


PS thanks for the email reply...

Juan

pics,pics,pics
need pics..............

Stillen is easier, but you get no variety.

True, True

But the job was pretty easy, and it looks pretty good

I would like to see your project when completed, it sounds like it will be pretty unique.

My front end has been on my car for about 6 months now. Other projects include a one-piece Altima front kit using the Stillen lip (shaved bodyline, lip-kit,turn signals, and 91 Integra clear corners). Molds were made of both, so I can make as many copies as I want.

I am not sure about the rear end of the P10, but I'll find out.

P_R_I_M_E_R_A_M_A_N

Show us pic's.... I'd like to see pic of the altima front end....

Juan

I get my camera back tomorrow. I'll post pictures ASAP.

Cool... Pls post ASAP as I will be sending my car to get painted. next week. I would like to monify it if possible.

Juan

Here is the a link to the my one peice Altima front kit just before it was completly finished, and molded. I took 1st place 4-door class.

http://www.draglab.com/events/images/show_01_0708_ImportLife_120.jpg

Sorry, thats (It took 1st place 4-door at a local show), but its not my car.

Start by removing your stock front end and grill. Once removed compare the top bumper lip to the kits lip. Use the Dremel to cut off any tabs or protrusions that won't let the kit fit snug. (It's snug when the fender-lines match the kits lines) My B.W. kit required that the vents below the headlights be cut back 2 inches because of clearance problems with front bumper.

Buying a kit with large front-vents will cause lots of extra work unless you want to remove your front bumper. (not recommended)

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I went out a purchased a 90-93 big mouth front bumper for an Accord. I have my G20 bumper removed and need to campare the stock bumper to the new one. In your instructions you state "Once removed compare the top bumper lip to the kits lip".

Do you match the stock bumper to the inside of the new one or to the outside?

You also warned not to purchase a kit with large front vents. Would this include the Big mouth?

IF could you provide any additonal details or pic it would be helpful.

PS what about the rear bumper?

Juan

Don't put one bumper inside the other, try to recreate the stock bumperline on the kit. If done right you will be able to slide the kit underneath the headlights, and have little/no gap problems.

Big Mouth can work, you might have alot of shaving to do. A good idea is to just run mesh and paint your crash-bumper black.

Heres the line you want to achieve.

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First of all thanks for all the help. I got very close to matching the fender lines yesterday. But I still have a few questions:


1. How are you attaching\securing the bumper?

2. Could you provide more details about attaching the grill.

3. Did you have to cut away the small lip on top of the accord
bumper to aline the grill?

4. Did you consider molding the small plastic inserts under the
headlights?

5. Any recommendations on modifying the rear bumper?

6. I could also use your input on how to modify and attach M3 style side
skirts from a 90-93 Accord.

Thanks

Juan
91 G20 under construciton


:frog:

1. Look at my original post, check the list of parts. If that doesn't help, tell me. I'm trying to edit some pic's with pointers.

2. 1st work on getting the kit to fit right. If the kit fits right, then the stock grill can be snapped in without any molding.

3. I did have to cut the tabs.

4. No, copying the stock bodyline was easier.

5. I'm unemployed right now, and trying to do a major engine swap with no cash. So I don't have time to work on the rear, but I really want to start on one.

6. How much are you spending on making the skirts? There are some pretty nice ones on the market.

Keep the questions coming, I'll answer them the best I can.

Cool thanks for the reply and I hope you find a job soon....


I decided not the mold the grill to the bumper. I have a few ideas of how to secure it know but pics would help.

I am in the process of getting the rear splitters from AreoTech in NZ thru GRUNTER. I am looking at about $100.

I ended up pruchasing a set of M3 style side skirts for an Accord. (used M3 Style Skirts were a $115) They will not be a perfect match but close enough.

I should be able to install them with little to not trouble. All I need to do is cut about 3" off the rear end and re-install the cap.

I plan to secure them by scewing them to the inner door sill. I'll post pic's when I am done..

Juan

Good job, as long as you don't cut the attachment tabs on the grill, you should be fine with installing it.

hey primera i need to do you split the front accord bumper down middle or will fit with no moddy just on the sides. will the rear bumper work with no moddy or what?

All you have to worry about is the top edge (under the grill), and how deep any vents are in the Accord kit.

If you go out and buy the copycat corner-store knockoff kit all bets are off. These kits hardly ever fit the car they were intended for.

Rear bumper is still uknown, maybe the guy with the mismatched custom kit G20 will know.

(Accord rear is as good of a guess as any)

My big mouth bumper seems to flare out a little more then the stock bumper. If I heat the fiberglass bumper up a little will it bend or will it burn?

If anyone know the question please let me know.

Juan

Fiberglass can be heated, I've been told even a hair dryer can sometimes heat it enough to bend.

I suggest a good working heat gun.

COOL thanks for the answer. Did you have to do this with you installed you PW kit?

Juan

No, but different kits=different fits.

Can U send me a pic?

It might take a little work, but fiberglass is easy to manipulate.

Here is the first pic's of my Big Mouth bumper & side skirts.

Here is another

Closeup

Side skirt pix's .... not yet mounted in the pic. I finished the side skirts today, I'll post pic's ASAP.

lookin nice!
cant wait till your finish!!!!
what kind of side skirts and bumper is that?

looks nice, did you have to heat bend the kit or did it sit flush? and you got it for the early accords right? 90-93? and for the side skirts, your just going to mount it over the existing "stock skirts"?

GtRider

Honda Accord Big Mouth Bumper & M3 Style Skirts for the same car.

Juan

did you have to heat bend the kit or did it sit flush? and you got it for the early accords right? 90-93? and for the side skirts, your just going to mount it over the existing "stock skirts"?



I did heat up the bumper up a little using a heat gun. I'm not sure it did anything. The bumper is from a 90-93 accord as well as the side skirts.

There was a lot of cutting and grinding and shaving involved to get the bumper on. It's not perfect but it's different. I just have to add wire mesh to the cut out and mount the bumper to finish. On the side skirts,
I had to cut about 3" off. I grind away fiberglass until I kinda matched the stock body line. Once again, it's not perfect but close enough.


Juan

id suggest youd fix the passenger side front fender, looks like you had a hit there. plus it adds a gap between the fender and kit.

id suggest youd fix the passenger side front fender, looks like you had a hit there. plus it adds a gap between the fender and kit.


Yes, I got hit in the about a month ago, it damaged the rear bumper and front fender. Yes, there are gaps in the pic's but nothing was bolted on when I took the pic's. When I am done there should be little to no gaps.

My G will be getting a full makeover just as soon as I am done with the kit. It will be getting a new Black paint job and new interior,

Juan
:bandit:

nice, dont forget pics!

WOW, I wish you would have told me the front clip of your car was scratched:confused:

It will fit better once your front end is fixed

Do you have at least 3 sets of brackets attached? These will make the kit stay where you want it to

I have to say I'm amazed you made it look good with the body damage!!!:D

Try filling in the spots on your grill with fiberglass, and primer everything one color (Black will give you an image of your new paint job)

Do you have at least 3 sets of brackets attached? These will make the kit stay where you want it to

I will be attaching it at 3 different locations. At the bottom using alm. bars, at top near the stock grill and the stock screws near the fenders.

Try filling in the spots on your grill with fiberglass, and primer everything one color (Black will give you an image of your new paint job)

I already filled them in. I just got to finished them and primer.


I have to say I'm amazed you made it look good with the body damage!!!

Thanks, Your the one that gave me the ball to try it....... I should be taking to the paint shop shortly....

p_r_i_m_e_r_a I saw a pic of you SR20DET engine how much was it???


That is my next mod... (hopefully)

how much you paid for the bumper and side skirts?

I paid $140 (new) for the front bumper from this guy out in Fountain Valley and $115 (Used) from a guy just down the street for the bumper guy.

I want to see more pic str8maxn

I just finished up today..... I will be dropping it off the paint shop tomorrow.... She's going to get painted Black....

enjoy.....

And more,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

and more,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

sorry... here you go...

one more shot....

Last one..

Project G lookin good!!!!
Major PROPZZ TO U!!!

who makes the side skirts?
and where can I get a pair from?

who makes the side skirts?
Not sure who makes them but they are M3 style for an accord. Read the post for more info...


and where can I get a pair from? I got them used. I would suggest you check you local pager. i.e. Recyler.

Thanks for the Prop'z, it should goto p_r_i_m_e_r_a, He started it all...

p_r_i_m_e_r_a

Any luck finding ideas for the rear bumper????

are the side skirts from a 2 door accord? or a 4 door acord?

4 door accord... They are not a direct fit. You will need to mold them g20 body line (grind away), cut about 3" from the rear and they will not have end caps.


Do you plan on install some?

nice job str8mxn!

i plan to do a custom kit for my G!
i love the M3 side skirts!!!
but lookin around to see where i can get the peices from.
what do you mean bye grind away the body line to mold the skirts on?

what do you mean bye grind away fiberglass?
on the side skirts or on the car?

what do you mean bye grind away the body line to mold the skirts on?

You need to grind\cut away fiberglass near the front\rear fender sill to match the G20 body line. The skirts are not a direct fit. Good luck on you Kit. My only advise is measure 5 times and cut once..... It will save you a lot of time and $$ not having to repair you scew ups.

Post pix's when you get started...

Juan

Hey Juan, your the one who took the chance.....:D

When I get some $$$ i'll go and buy a rear,
dont know which one yet.

I have to roll BTCC style for right now,
Low in the front and high in the back.

I get my baby back tomorrow..... With a fresh coat of black paint....
I can't wait to see her....

for the side skirts, you just mounted them over the "stock skirts" (not really skirts but im just talking about the side)? :confused: you didnt cut any of the metal or part of the car right? you said you didnt have side caps, arent you going to re-fiberglass so it does? how are you going to mount the sides, screws or just bondo/fiberglass it on?

p10s dont have side skirts.

for the side skirts, you just mounted them over the "stock skirts" (not really skirts but im just talking about the side)? Yes, mounted them right on the stock "side skirts".


you didnt cut any of the metal or part of the car right? No cutting of any stock parts....


you said you didnt have side caps, arent you going to re-fiberglass so it does? No, not a big deal to me... Plus the car was painted black you can't even tell.



how are you going to mount the sides, screws or just bondo/fiberglass it on? I scewed the side skirts to the body via the door sill.

I'll post pix's as soon as I put it back together.

Originally posted by p_r_i_m_e_r_a


Note: if you are using a OEM grill you will need to cut the 4 plastic snaps off


why would you cut the 4 plastic holders in? what is going to hold the top part of the bumper and grill? wouldnt you want to keep the 4 holders for extra support?