cutting springs

does anyone cut their springs?

yes .... people who want a really bouncy and uneven ride ... just get some lowering springs, it still will ride kinda shitty but its better than cutting the springs.

lets try this again, just go to groubuycenter.com and look for some springs for cheap.

Who needs springs. What I did was just take out my spring. The shock will hold the suspension together. The car looks slammed as fawk now yo! FO SHO!

i cut my springs at first to lower my car. I will never do it again and not recommend it to anyone. the ride was horrible and i bottomed out my shock constantly. It would never stop bouncing. I would recommend just buying a cheap set of drop springs off ebay or saving your money for a good set.

Originally posted by fscskaters
does anyone cut their springs?

Why not just cut your throat? It's safer and a damn sight quicker than driving a car that is downright dangerous :confused: At least by taking the former route you only endanger yourself :devil:

Sorry, It's a bad thing to do, it unbalances the ride. Looks cool but is fucking dangerous :frown:

Anyone that cuts their springs has to be a damn fool

Originally posted by Setanta


Why not just cut your throat? It's safer and a damn sight quicker than driving a car that is downright dangerous :confused: At least by taking the former route you only endanger yourself :devil:

Sorry, It's a bad thing to do, it unbalances the ride. Looks cool but is fucking dangerous :frown:

Wow Setanta, that was fukin HARSH!

it was needed....

Originally posted by MyFirst4G


Wow Setanta, that was fukin HARSH!

I had a friend hit by a car that had chopped springs - driver lost control of it driving over a bumpy road - with cut springs. DOA yet the driver of the car walked away. I guess that's why I have no time for people doing stupid and dangerous things that directly affect the control of a ton of steel without thinking through the consequences.

I agree, Myfirst4G - it is harsh :smile:

just out of curiosity....how dangerous is cutting springs?

im aware of the difference in ride quality but what other dangers are there?

I guess you missed the previous 10 posts???:eek7:

The whole reason you have springs is to compensate for the ever changing weight transfer caused by accelerating, braking, turning, etc.... When you cut your springs, it totally eliminates any rebounding capabilities that the car had. In turn, the car has no control over body roll and really might as well have no steering wheel...

It is incredibly irresponsible and dangerous. I agree with Sentata on this one. Remember, all mods and fun aside, driving is a big responsibility.....not a right. A car can be more dangerous than a gun in the wrong hands. :frown:

ALright, first off, all springs have a set spring rate. for exmaple, if the spring rate is 300 lbs, then it will take 300 lbs to compress the spring one inch, 600 2 inhces, etc (300 was just an example number, by the way). Cutting your stock spring is very dangous. First off, its gonna f*ck up the spring rate, that spring rate is not that stiff of one (on a stock spring, and also by cutting it, you f*ck up the spring rate. This causes the spring to sit more compressed un-natually, when it isn't designed to do that. The spring rate is shot and useless, the spring is ruined. It can't do its job. It can't keep the car in control, can't keep your shocks in control, they bounce like a blown suspension. Whihc is esstenially what you did. By cutting your springs, you just blew your suspenison,all by yourself. This results in a very bounce car, which is VERY difficult to control on bump roads, surfaces, high speeds, etc. That not only puts you and your passengers in danger, but the other ppl on the road as well. If you wanna do something dumb and risk your own life, thats one thing, but cutting your springs is riskin other ppl's lives as well. Not a good thing. Do yourself and everyone else a favor, save up for some actual lowering springs, at the very least. Even a cheap crappy brand is better than cutting the spring. If you dont want a cheap crappy brand, stay stock till you can afford the kind you want.

the first car i had had cut springs,,that thing bottomed out all the time,,,after a while the fenders looked like bubble gum that someone chewed on ,,from bottomin out so much

lol, i didnt say i did, i was wondering if any of u do. fuck that i know someone who did and like fucked up shit on his car.

I have cut 2 coils on my eibach sportlines, I’m fine, my car doesn’t hop all over the place, and I have never lost control on bumpy surfaces, so I don’t really understand u guys.. Like an opinion is very nice, but is it really fact? that cut springs r that bad, Like all my buddies ride a cut springs, a bmw with 6 coils cut off stock springs, 5th gen civic with like 4 cut off eibach pro-kit springs, their all fine, u just need good struts to help out the ride after u cut em. Your totally right with the part about saving up to get good shit like teins or somfin, but not all of us can afford stuff like that, and comparing minor cut springs to fully lowered cheap coil overs, springs r a better ride.

Right....:bigthumb:

So like, everyone in my neighborhood is on Heroin, and no one has died yet...so Im thinking it might be a dope Idea to go try it.

Its the simple laws of physics we are talking about here. A spring is designed to carry a certain load. When you cut the spring, you cannot gauge how much tensile strength you have just removed by measuring how many coils you took of. Not all springs are proggressive, and not every spring will react the same to heating/cutting.

You could cut all 4 of your springs, but only 1 decides its really going to lose all of its tensile properties. Thats almost like riding on 3 wheels, because that 4th corner is totally unsupported.

OPINION = IT'S STUPID AND CHEAP
FACT = IT'S DANGEROUS

Originally posted by Problem_Si
Right....:bigthumb:

So like, everyone in my neighborhood is on Heroin, and no one has died yet...so Im thinking it might be a dope Idea to go try it.

Its the simple laws of physics we are talking about here. A spring is designed to carry a certain load. When you cut the spring, you cannot gauge how much tensile strength you have just removed by measuring how many coils you took of. Not all springs are proggressive, and not every spring will react the same to heating/cutting.

You could cut all 4 of your springs, but only 1 decides its really going to lose all of its tensile properties. Thats almost like riding on 3 wheels, because that 4th corner is totally unsupported.

OPINION = IT'S STUPID AND CHEAP
FACT = IT'S DANGEROUS

:iagree:

check it...my bro got a '93 Mazda Mx-6 and today we just found out that the owner that he brought it from cut the springs in order to lower it...is that goin to cause problem?...just wonderin...cuz I told him to buy a lowerin kit just to make sure it dont cause any problem...

Originally posted by Custom Rex
I have cut 2 coils on my eibach sportlines, I’m fine, my car doesn’t hop all over the place, and I have never lost control on bumpy surfaces, so I don’t really understand u guys.. Like an opinion is very nice, but is it really fact? that cut springs r that bad, Like all my buddies ride a cut springs, a bmw with 6 coils cut off stock springs, 5th gen civic with like 4 cut off eibach pro-kit springs, their all fine, u just need good struts to help out the ride after u cut em. Your totally right with the part about saving up to get good shit like teins or somfin, but not all of us can afford stuff like that, and comparing minor cut springs to fully lowered cheap coil overs, springs r a better ride.

DID YOU EVEN READ THE REASONS WHY OR DID YOU JUST DECIDE TO POSTWHORE AND THROW IN YOU ILL-INFORMED OPINION???

Originally posted by CivicYoungin
check it...my bro got a '93 Mazda Mx-6 and today we just found out that the owner that he brought it from cut the springs in order to lower it...is that goin to cause problem?...just wonderin...cuz I told him to buy a lowerin kit just to make sure it dont cause any problem...

It will have thrown the spring-strut balance and posibly the geometry. For sure if 're cheap enough to cut the springs then they didn't add a camber kit.

Definitely get him to do it properly - good on you :smile:

BTW - as a sidenote - if an insurance company finds out it's an illegal (it is over here) and dangerous mod, kiss your policy goodbye in an accident.

Cheers

Problem_Si...I love that response, it was great...and compeletly neccassery. You right on the money. Setanta had a good point too, did that guy read the reasons why that we have been posting or just throw is dumb and ill-informed opinion in there. as Problem-Si eluded to, just becuase people around you are doning it and havent been hurt yet doesnt make it dangous. It just makes them stupid and lucky, for the time being. It'll catch up to them sometime if they keep it up. Remember, if you play with fire, you'll evenually get burned. As for Civic Youngin's question, yea, and congrats to you and your buddies for wanting to do it right. Get that taken care of ASAP...at the very least, put on lowering springs immediatly until you can afford to do the rest, but doing the springs, struts/shocks, and camber kit all at once will save you money on installation. Denfitaly do it all and do it right. He's most likely messed up the sturts by now too, and it'll probably need a camber kit. But at the very least, get those cut springs the hell off there. Again, you are smart for wanting to do it right. Keep it up.

"Setanta - DID YOU EVEN READ THE REASONS WHY OR DID YOU JUST DECIDE TO POSTWHORE AND THROW IN YOU ILL-INFORMED OPINION???"
- what good opinion do u give by posting that?..
i was just letting people out there know that i have done it and nothing has happened to me, the post started by the guy asking "does anybody cut springs" and i just posted saying yes....
thanks for your super intelligent comment anyways, :thefinger

i had cut the bottom 2 coils off my springs on a 91 civic hatch si about 4 years ago, it dropped it an even inch and a half all around, it road like stock, it wasnt bouncy or harsh. ive since sold the car, it has about 20,000 miles on the car since, i understand everyones concern about the whole deal this is just my experience, and i agree you're better off just buying lowering springs

hurry up "Setanta" better get in here and flame on this guy too he "HAD" cut springs... OMG...:thefinger

i was just letting people out there know that i have done it and nothing has happened to me, the post started by the guy asking "does anybody cut springs" and i just posted saying yes....


Hmmmmm:sly:.....lets turn back the clock a bit shall we???

I have never lost control on bumpy surfaces, so I don’t really understand u guys.. Like an opinion is very nice, but is it really fact? that cut springs r that bad, Like all my buddies ride a cut springs, a bmw with 6 coils cut off stock springs, 5th gen civic with like 4 cut off eibach pro-kit springs, their all fine, u just need good struts to help out the ride after u cut em.


Thats a bit more than "yes". Unless I dont have a firm grip on the English language, in your first post you tried to justify cutting springs with the "no one has died" argument. If your going to flame, dont contradict yourself. SO you deserve the :thefinger

FACT = CUTTING SPRINGS IS STILL DANGEROUS
OPINION = YOU DONT KNOW SHIOT :bigthumb:

Thanks, but try again....


:nono: :nono: :nono: :nono: :newbie: :nono: :nono: :nono: :nono:

naaaaaaaaa............. i think u still both deserve the.:thefinger

Originally posted by eckoman_pdx
Problem_Si...I love that response, it was great...and compeletly neccassery. You right on the money. Setanta had a good point too, did that guy read the reasons why that we have been posting or just throw is dumb and ill-informed opinion in there. .


and what was Setanta's "good point"?????


"why not just cut your throat..."


great point.


I'm defending my buddy (custom rex) because some of you guys are busting his chops...come on, the thread topic was "who has cut springs". he does so he replied

Strange, I figured your buddy could look out for himself.

As stated, he overqualified it by saying there's nothing wrong with doing it. That's bullshit, whether you or your charge like it or not. It changes the dynamic of a spring, its poundage is varied as it's calculated by spring diameter, number of coils and diameter (off the top of my head, there are other variables). Cutting off two coils immediately changes its qualities. Seeing that they are balanced to the struts, immediately youy have a problem with the equation - or is that too hard for you idiots to understand. It unbalances the dynamic.

Basically, it's dangerous (my original point), not to mention bodgy.

Your friend is a fool, and so are you in my books if you agree with him

Here's a noble Idea dickie.....

Why not pick up a book and read up on the laws of physics??? Or maybe ask someone knowledgeable about the subject, instead of talking out your ass???

You brought this on yourself by trying to give some bullshit arguement that somehow the laws of physics dont apply to you or your friends.

I sincerely hope that any of the fuckbags that did this to their car, dont hurt someone innocent on the road.

You aren't a tuner...... YOU'RE A HACK
Take your ghetto, mexican pinto hack job and try and pass it off as a "mod" somewhere else, because it aint going to get you respect here...period.

The more you talk and try to justify your point, the more you look like an idiot to everyone in this forum..... So go ahead and post again....:loser:

and what was Setanta's "good point"?????

Here's an idea for you and your friends. Read the pervious posts in here. Are you to dumb to understand what we have said to as WHY it is dangerous? Setanta, Problem_Si, and I have been trying to explain to your dumb-asses WHY it is dangerous. Get mad, call us names, post crap saying we're wrong cuz you "have done it." It doesnt matter. That doesnt change the Laws of Pyshics. If you can't understnad that, then you shouldn't be touching anything to do with a car. And if you don't like those laws of pyshics? Tough sh*t. Complain all you want, that still won't change them.

my friend has his own perspective and i have mine. i dont have chopped springs and never will.

and eckoman, i have read the previous posts, and i'm not trying to change anyones views.

:loser:



lock this thread, its going nowhere

my friend has his own perspective and i have mine.

Like i said, complain all you want, think what you will think. I still wont change the laws of pyshics. cutting your springs is dumb= opinion. cutting your springs is dangerous (see laws of pyschics)=fact. Say what you will say, but that doesnt change the fact that cutting your springs is dangerous.

can some1 help me i changed my springs last night 2 inchs lower springs but it did not make a difference does it take a while when there still new or......................???????????????????????

Originally posted by jackys_18
can some1 help me i changed my springs last night 2 inchs lower springs but it did not make a difference does it take a while when there still new or......................???????????????????????

You got suckered!!!!!! :frown: They may drop a little bit, but not 2 inches. Take them back and get a refund :bigthumb:

OK, time for me to chime in. I know something of this from my race car wrenching days (cars that turn). If you don't know what you're doing, DO NOT cut your springs. If you don't understand what spring rate you want or are going to get, DO NOT DO IT. You can calculate the resulting spring rate easily BUT do you know what you want or need? Leave it to spring manufacturers if you don't know what you're doing.

If you just want the "slammed" look and don't care if the car handles like shit or is lethal on the road go for it and trailer it to where you want to show off. While your at it make sure you have wildly offset wheels so you break your wrist if you hit anything with your wheel.

End of rant.