Pics of my new project...

... as if I didn't have enough projects already.

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looks sweet is it going to freeair or enclosed? and i am asuming it will be fiber glass?

all i can say is... Kick Ass!
gonna look sick man
cant wait 2 see the final product, what kinda subs u puttin in?

Yes, they'll be fiberglass, but its not for subs. It's for my 6.5" two-way rear-fill speakers.

Here's the one that I've been working on for my subs... Started it last year, but never finished it...

http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/215119lycra04.jpg

More info on that in this thread:
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=62559

ohh alright, i remembered the old sub box, i didnt know if u didnt like it and was doin a different design or not. should look sick when its done tho man, hurry and finish it all ;) hehe

Nice... kinda makes me glad I have a 4g4d, no hassle with rear speakers at all.

Originally posted by l2ice rocketz
Nice... kinda makes me glad I have a 4g4d, no hassle with rear speakers at all.

Well, it's not a hassle... I have the OEM rear speaker mounts, but I decided to make custom ones so that it looks nicer...

i didnt know what the fuck that was at first lol you should finish the sub enclosure first though ;)

you better hurry up and FINISH something.....or we will come kick your ass, and then once your actually finished with the sub box, i will come kick ur ass and gank it from you :D

That is some of the coolest work I have ever seen. it would be great to do a little how to on your fiberglass work. I would like to get into creating a fiberglass sub box for the hatch but I have never worked with the stuff before.
Ohh and what are are your plans for your stock speaker holders?
Are you looking to sell them?

looks sweet dude......


gunnmen01

Originally posted by l2ice rocketz
Nice... kinda makes me glad I have a 4g4d, no hassle with rear speakers at all.

you wanna know something funny ... some of the dx 4 doors didnt even have rear speakers! lol ... ill take a pic of york2600's girlfriends 91 and you guys will know what I mean.

Reminds me of that show car alpine built out of that 2002 Civic SI. Man.. that car was crazy, one seater and everything, w/ enough ICE to make you go deaf from just turning it on. I think a magazine did a article about it, said it was estimated to be about $250,000.

Originally posted by l2ice rocketz
Reminds me of that show car alpine built out of that 2002 Civic SI. Man.. that car was crazy, one seater and everything, w/ enough ICE to make you go deaf from just turning it on. I think a magazine did a article about it, said it was estimated to be about $250,000.

The Alpine website also has a good article on that car.
A co-worker of mine knows the 2 guys that built that car.

Originally posted by l2ice rocketz
Reminds me of that show car alpine built out of that 2002 Civic SI. Man.. that car was crazy, one seater and everything, w/ enough ICE to make you go deaf from just turning it on. I think a magazine did a article about it, said it was estimated to be about $250,000.

Thats just what i was going to say, go to Alpine's website, and they got how to's for both those cars ( CIVIC si & RSX ) Great info for both cars. And i got that mag. you were talkin bout, perdy crazy. That stuff isnt really that hard, its jus no one likes projects that require time, patience, and thinking :p Im doing my Trunk show car like, making my custom boxes right now too. Out of Cardboard, and my dad owns a woodshop for cabinents w/his friend, and they got all the extra wood i could need. The real wood you use for boxes, i made the sub box , speaker boxes for trunk, and now workin on a box that goes into the spare wheel well for my Air ride kit, whatever its going to be ( air bag, strut, etc ) :rolleyes: But the box will be universal for either of em' , so i jus gotta get that done, then im makin peices that fit in for the fiberglass molds, gonna "show" it up ! cant wait, just need the time ;)

Phase 2 complete...

Going to resin it and add probably do the fiberglass tomorrow, then bondo and sanding... This is a really difficult shape to work with...

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hey mike you should come down and see what kind of monster we have made hooptie.......HOLY MANOLY :eek: its just not the same.....the trunk went poof...wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee:D

Originally posted by Civic Rush
hey mike you should come down and see what kind of monster we have made hooptie.......HOLY MANOLY :eek: its just not the same.....the trunk went poof...wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee:D

hrmm....think its almost time to make another trip up there :D then i could get my boxes done :)

Originally posted by Melt


you wanna know something funny ... some of the dx 4 doors didnt even have rear speakers! lol ... ill take a pic of york2600's girlfriends 91 and you guys will know what I mean.

my EX didn't come with rear deck speakers. I faded the factory cassette player to the back to hear how shitty the speakers were when i first got my car and i didn't get any sound, looked on the deck and there was nothing, not even holes to mount speakers in

Originally posted by 88CiViC_DX


hrmm....think its almost time to make another trip up there :D then i could get my boxes done :)

I think that your right...so pack up the G/F and you shit and bring your ass up here damnit...I am just about done with my swap soo I should be able to do it at anytime

Originally posted by Civic Rush
hey mike you should come down and see what kind of monster we have made hooptie.......HOLY MANOLY :eek: its just not the same.....the trunk went poof...wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee:D

Um... pics?

So, you've done some fiberglass work on it or what?

hey you wanna sell the oem rear speaker brackets since your not gonna use em???:D

Originally posted by cyberfelon
hey you wanna sell the oem rear speaker brackets since your not gonna use em???:D

Travis PM'd me about them already, so he's got dibbs, but if he ends up not taking them, I'll let you know.

Originally posted by ci5ic


Um... pics?

So, you've done some fiberglass work on it or what?

now now now mike....you know that everything we do is a secret....but yes there is fiberglass in the equation...I will post some pics some time:D

Originally posted by Civic Rush


now now now mike....you know that everything we do is a secret....but yes there is fiberglass in the equation...I will post some pics some time:D

Yeah, you and jer are always coming up with a scheme... can't wait to see the finished product! ;)

Phase 3 complete...


Added resin to the lycra.

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Wow, i wish i knew how to fiberglass, i dont even have time to experiment.......

i think just about EVERY car magazine had some sort of feature regarding that crazy ass Alpine civic Si.... everything from one little paragraph blurb to full color 6 page features... it was everywhere.

very nice fiberglass work! I can't wait to see them installed.

my LX didn't come with rear speakers either, so I just built my own enclosures for them so that I could fit my bigass eXcelons back there... damn things are almsot 4" thick, and you only can mount a speaker under 3" deep in the stock location to keep from hitting the torsion bars. i used MDF... just the two pieces I used are enough to keep the rear deck from rattling from my sub.

i am considering doing a custom rear deck with fiberglass and put in some components and angle the speakers for better imaging... that is if I ever get time.

EDIT: I will not be buying a 2003 Civic Si. Stupid college. So I will be keeping my 4G4D!

damn i wish i knew how to do that.. i want something like that to fit a pair of 5x1/4. ive got the oem brackets with 6x9's in.. how much to make would u charge to make something like that for 5x1/4??

this fiberglass stuff looks awesome!!! i want to know how that stuff works! do you just make the mold, put the cloth on, then put that epoxy stuff on it? i am looking for kits and stuff, where can i find fiberglass stuff? seriously, the possibilities with that stuff are endless! hook me up with some info if you have the time!

Originally posted by GScivic7


my EX didn't come with rear deck speakers. I faded the factory cassette player to the back to hear how shitty the speakers were when i first got my car and i didn't get any sound, looked on the deck and there was nothing, not even holes to mount speakers in

i think it might have been an option then ... cause my friends 91 dx 4 door the rear deck is flat and there is also no place for the speakers ... so we are gonna go get the right deck from the junkyard one of these days ... and then once we figure out how to take out the old deck I will know how to take mine out and I can tint my back window .... it cant possibly be that hard to tint the window in a 4th gen ... theres hardly even a curve!

That is an awesome design! My 240Z and 280ZX's weren't designed for rear speakers (unless you count the ones directly behind the seats in the early ZX's, which you can't hear when the seat it extended all the way, and mutes the sound). You just gave me the idea to build my own boxes and position them behind the rear strut towers. Only question is . . . where do you purchase the fiberglass materials?

Fiberglass material can be purchased several places...

Some hardware stores stock the materials, and most boat-shops carry it (for fixing fiberglass boat hulls). I go to the KC Auto Paint supply store in town, and it's the cheapest there. shouldn't be hard to find.

I'm still pretty new at the fiberglass, but figuring it out as I go along.

Here's some links that I found to be very usefull:
http://www.diymobilesound.com/tutorials/fiberglass_kickpanels.htm
http://www.rtol.net/scornell/2002NI.htm
Badass Sub-tub fiberglass page (I think the link is dead though):
http://members.iinet.net.au/~nismo/subs.html
http://www.diysubwoofers.org/audiolinks.htm

You can order stuff online from here:
http://www.tapplastics.com/fiberglass/index.html

Basically, my approach to the process is to build a wood frame, and stretch Lycra (a.k.a. Spandex) over the frame to get a natural basic shape, and staple it to the frame. Most sites tell you to use fleece material (like sweatshirt fabric), but I found that lycra is much stretchier and easier to work with. Then you coat the lycra with fiberglass resin, which you have to mix with a hardener using a paint-brush. Once it has hardened, you re-inforce it with several layers of fiberglass cloth or matting. The cloth is just woven strands of fiberglass, and the matting is much thicker, it's matted strands of fiberglass. You saturate the cloth or matting with fiberglass resin and lay it on the surface. Once you've built up several layers (for these speaker pods, I'll probably only use 2 or 3 layers of fiberglass cloth, for a sub enclosure, you'd probably want 7 or more layers), you let it harden, and then apply Bondo or some similar filler material and sand it smooth... Lots and lots of sanding until you get the shape you're after. If you are going to apply carpeting to the object, you don't have to sand too much, but if you use a vinyl cover, you have to make sure the surface is really smooth because imperfections will show through the vinyl. If you are going to paint it, you REALLY have to sand it smooth...

That's really about it... Fiberglass resin is some pretty noxious stuff, so of course make sure to use it in well ventilated areas, and use rubber gloves to keep it off of your skin... It sticks to EVERYTHING, so if you're fiberglassing inside your car, make sure to cover anything you don't want to get resin on. If you spill some resin, Acetone will help clean it up.

Also, the chemical reaction of the hardener and resin creates heat, and can burn stuff. I had a mixing cup with the resin in it catch fire once, so be carefull with it.

It's kindof difficult to work with, especially when the resin starts to harden when you're trying to use it, but once you get the hang of it, there's so many things you can do with it.

Hope that helps someone...

Thanks for sharing that with me, Mike! I'm anxious to see how yours turn out. One of the guys in our Z Club chopped the top of of his 240Z and created a fiberglass mold over styro to give it the Ferrari look -- G-nose and all. Really cool! If I can master the speaker box, watch out! :D

Added fiberglass/resin... 2 layers. Looks sketchy as hell, but should look good after bondo/sanding

http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/710388smFiberglass01.jpg

http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/853929smFiberglass02.jpg

Applied Bondo (actualy not Bondo, but a similar Marine filler material)... now for the sanding...

The one on the right is a little bit lighter because I didn't use the right amount of hardener, so I hope it still cures properly... ?

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Damn yo, i can't wait to see how they come out!!!!!

Originally posted by Melt


i think it might have been an option then ... cause my friends 91 dx 4 door the rear deck is flat and there is also no place for the speakers ... so we are gonna go get the right deck from the junkyard one of these days ... and then once we figure out how to take out the old deck I will know how to take mine out and I can tint my back window .... it cant possibly be that hard to tint the window in a 4th gen ... theres hardly even a curve!

yeah, i just cut holes for my speakers into the deck cause the metal brace or whatever that is underneath it had the holes for the speakers to poke through

If you plan on putting any kind of good speaker on the rear deck (for the 4g4d owners) and plan on running some power to it, I recommend investing in some dynamat (just the small speaker kit), because that rear deck flexes a LOT under little to no power... makes for bad sound and whatnot. My subwoofer generates so much pressure with the trunk closed that it will distort the cones on my 6.5" coaxials on the rear deck. Crazy.

Originally posted by DarkImportGrey
If you plan on putting any kind of good speaker on the rear deck (for the 4g4d owners) and plan on running some power to it, I recommend investing in some dynamat (just the small speaker kit), because that rear deck flexes a LOT under little to no power... makes for bad sound and whatnot. My subwoofer generates so much pressure with the trunk closed that it will distort the cones on my 6.5" coaxials on the rear deck. Crazy.


My friend had that problem, and just used Speaker baffles. They are like 8 bucks at crutchfield.com, here is the link and a pic of what it looks like: http://www.crutchfield.com/cgi-bin/S-aNqgu385Edp/ProdView.asp?a=&s=0&cc=01&g=762&id=essential_info&i=237XT65


http://akamaipix.crutchfield.com/products/2002/237/h237xt65.jpeg

Well. I'm glad you told me they were for speakers of some sort. For a while, I was excited because I thought it was a cup holder.
Flunky

Originally posted by 4-Door Flunky
Well. I'm glad you told me they were for speakers of some sort. For a while, I was excited because I thought it was a cup holder.
Flunky

Hmmmmm . . . and what color would your hair be? :cwn27:

Originally posted by Z Babe


Hmmmmm . . . and what color would your hair be? :cwn27:


Hehehe... everyone on this forum is hard-up for cup-holders since, for the most part, our cars never had them. :p

I just spent about 6 hours sanding one of the speaker pods... pain in the fucking ass if you ask me...

Originally posted by Z Babe


Hmmmmm . . . and what color would your hair be? :cwn27:

lol, thats funny!

Originally posted by ci5ic


Hehehe... everyone on this forum is hard-up for cup-holders since, for the most part, our cars never had them. :p


Yeah, I feel your pain . . . none of my Z's came equipped with them either. There's nothing like a wet cro. . . uh, well, you know what I mean. :hehe:

Originally posted by Z Babe


Yeah, I feel your pain . . . none of my Z's came equipped with them either. There's nothing like a wet cro. . . uh, well, you know what I mean. :hehe:


HOLY SHIT, thats hilarious!!!! yo, are you a guy or a girl? just wondering.... :cool:

are you sanding by hand? or are you using a eletric sander?

Originally posted by Stali08
are you sanding by hand? or are you using a eletric sander?

Sanding by hand at this point... I've seen some 3D sanders that would probably work great for this, but since I'm unemployed, I can't justify the expense. That's alright though, with all this extra time on my hands it keeps me busy, and when I finally do finish them, it'll be a greater satisfaction... I figure I've got another 2 hours to go on the one, and then I get to start sanding the other one :D

Shit, just make sure you finish these then finish the sub box THEN start a new project..... dont wanna get let down AGAIN cause u diddt feel like finishing the pods :D j/k!

ah so i see well just ask a friend or something im sure that someone has one that could lend you one, anything is better then sanding by hand :crying:

Originally posted by MyFirst4G

HOLY SHIT, thats hilarious!!!! yo, are you a guy or a girl? just wondering.... :cool:

100% girl, of course -- see my pic? Yeah, that's me. See, I told you guys that you were more fun -- that's why I'm "hanging" here, instead of with my invisible Z gang -- do they even exist? :bathroom:

Originally posted by Z Babe


100% girl, of course -- see my pic? Yeah, that's me. See, I told you guys that you were more fun -- that's why I'm "hanging" here, instead of with my invisible Z gang -- do they even exist? :bathroom:

Well, since you're going to hang out here, be a sport and post some pics of your Z's and whatever you've done to them (modifications, restorations, etc.) I'd love to see them.

Oh, and welcome to the forum. Despite the fact that you don't own a 4th generation civic (or 2nd gen. CRX), I think you'll find that most everybody here is a decent person, and we have alot of fun. You might even find some usefull tech information that you can translate for use in your Z in the process.

Originally posted by ci5ic

Well, since you're going to hang out here, be a sport and post some pics of your Z's and whatever you've done to them (modifications, restorations, etc.) I'd love to see them.

Oh, and welcome to the forum. . . . You might even find some usefull tech information that you can translate for use in your Z in the process.

Awe, thank you! Actually, so far, I'm the one giving out all the tech advice. LOL! But, I'm sure I'll find some useful info. -- like the speaker boxes -- cool idea!

BTW, I can't figure out how to post more than one pic. -- have one on my profile, but how do I add the others? :confused:

Originally posted by Z Babe


Awe, thank you! Actually, so far, I'm the one giving out all the tech advice. LOL! But, I'm sure I'll find some useful info. -- like the speaker boxes -- cool idea!

BTW, I can't figure out how to post more than one pic. -- have one on my profile, but how do I add the others? :confused:

go to www.automotiveforums.com/upload and upload the image (must be JPG format and less than 100Kb). Then copy the link it gives you into your post and add [img] tags before and after it... For better detail on the [img] tags, read this link:

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/misc.php?action=bbcode#buttons

Originally posted by DarkImportGrey
If you plan on putting any kind of good speaker on the rear deck (for the 4g4d owners) and plan on running some power to it, I recommend investing in some dynamat (just the small speaker kit), because that rear deck flexes a LOT under little to no power... makes for bad sound and whatnot. My subwoofer generates so much pressure with the trunk closed that it will distort the cones on my 6.5" coaxials on the rear deck. Crazy.

yah, my 6.5" speakers are gone now cause they sounded like shit in the deck, i'll have to pick up some of those baffles and throw in some better speakers

Originally posted by ci5ic

go to www.automotiveforums.com/upload and upload the image (must be JPG format and less than 100Kb). Then copy the link it gives you into your post and add [img] tags before and after it... For better detail on the [img] tags, read this link:[/url]

Whew, that wasn't fun. LOL! Okay, what am I doing wrong? Where am I supposed to past the links with the [img] tags?:confused:
Thanks!!

Well, I thought I'd posted these pics a week ago, but apparently not...

Here's where I'm at with the pods:

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http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/433921Sanded02.jpg

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Thanks for the update!!! cant wait to see em painted, what color r u getting em painted?

Originally posted by MyFirst4G
Thanks for the update!!! cant wait to see em painted, what color r u getting em painted?

$10.00 on Black !! :icon16:

Yellow. LOL