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Old 11-18-2006, 07:02 PM
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Angry Serious brake problem...please help!!!

Okay, here's the situation. I decided to replace my front rotors and brakes myself. At this point, I believe that was my first mistake. Anyway, everything was coming apart fairly easy, with the exception of some stubborn bolts, but nothing major. I finally get the pads and caliper off on the passenger side and am down to the rotor. This was the part I knew would be a problem and I was right. The only thing that stood between me and getting the rotor off was two stupid phillips screws. First, I tried to see how a regular phillips head screwdriver would do...no way. They were too rusted for that. I don't have a manual impact driver as the repair manual suggests, so I used a power drill with a phillips bit. I know, pretty stupid, but I didn't have anything else that would produce the kind of torgue to get those bastards off. Well, as I'm sure you can guess, I ended up stripping the heads out. Then, in my mind, I'm left with no option but to drill them out. I did drill them out and with the help of two 8 x 1.25mm bolts was able to free the old rotor. Part of the screws are left in the hub and I'm not exactly sure what to do about that. Also, I can't find any place that carries the two screws I need to put the new rotor on. Oh yeah, before this job started, I broke off one of the wheel studs while removing the wheel. I've swapped wheels on and off of this car, so I'm not sure what the deal was with that. So, In case you missed it, I have:
1 broken wheel stud
2 stripped and drilled out phillips rotor-to-hub screws

What is the exact name of the part that contains the wheel studs (the circular metal plate)? Is this part replaceable? If so, how is it removed?
Sorry for all the questions, but I'm in a real situation here. Any advice you guys can give will be appreciated. Thanks.
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Old 11-20-2006, 03:59 PM
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Re: Serious brake problem...please help!!!

I'm not sure how you'd get those out there, but I do think that you can pick up those screws from Advance Auto Parts, I bet they're not cheap either.
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Old 11-20-2006, 10:32 PM
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Re: Serious brake problem...please help!!!

i had the same issue, however if was able to pry my old screws out without drilling them with a ton of liquid wrench, a very large perfect fitting screw driver, and a lot of patience. i pretty much stripped the old ones too.

i happened to find those screws at home depot. really cheap too... maybe a dollar or two tops. they are *slightly* longer, but that doesnt matter. just bring your old ones along and make sure the thread matches.
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Old 11-21-2006, 06:53 AM
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Re: Serious brake problem...please help!!!

The wheel stud should be easy enough to drive out with a hammer.
Then the new one can be pulled in by using a nut and a bunch of washers
to just wrench it on.
Most cars don't have those screws to the disc.
I really don't think they would be missed if you didn't replace them.
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Old 11-21-2006, 12:59 PM
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Re: Serious brake problem...please help!!!

Okay, here's an update. I got the rotor retaining screws from the Honda dealer. They were $1.35 each. I got like 6 of them so that if I messed a couple of them up I would still be in good shape. Then I went to Sears and bought a Craftsman impact driver. It's a manual tool that you hold on the screw with one hand and hit with a hammer with the other. It's supposed to deliver 200lbs of torque and 20 degrees of rotation with each blow. It took me a couple of tries to figure out, but it did loosen the screws on the other rotor. But back to the first rotor. I was able to get one screw back in perfectly. I managed not to destroy the threads in the hub when I drilled that one out. The other screw, however, was a different story. I pretty much destroyed it, so the new scew didn't thread into it. But I guess one is better than none. As far as replacing the hub, the guy at Autozone said that it is pressed into the assembly and would either have to be pressed out at a machine shop and a new one pressed in, or just replace the assembly. I'm a little short on time and money for that matter at this point, so for now I'm rolling with only 3 lugs on the passenger side. I'll hopefully get it fixed when it gets warmer and before I put my 17"s back on. So be sure if you are going to replace the rotors on you Civic that you get a manual impact driver. It will save you a LOT of time and trouble. Mine was like $25 and has Craftsman's lifetime replacement guarantee. Thanks for everyone's feedback. It was appreciated. If anyone has actually changed a wheel stud on a 96-00 Civic without replacing the hub, please let me know how you did it. Thanks.
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Re: Serious brake problem...please help!!!

to get the stud in to the hub you have to cheat it because if you try to push it in from the back side it keeps hitting the round area of the spindle .what you need to do is make a mental note of the angle that your off and cut that angle into the round area of the stud if you have the tools to do so (grinder or whizz wheel) now you should be able to drive the stud into the hub with a hammer and punch. because if you try to remove the hub from the spindle you run the risk of damaging the bearing inside of the hub .(trust me I was a honda tech for 3yrs).
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Re: Serious brake problem...please help!!!

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to get the stud in to the hub you have to cheat it because if you try to push it in from the back side it keeps hitting the round area of the spindle .what you need to do is make a mental note of the angle that your off and cut that angle into the round area of the stud if you have the tools to do so (grinder or whizz wheel) now you should be able to drive the stud into the hub with a hammer and punch. because if you try to remove the hub from the spindle you run the risk of damaging the bearing inside of the hub .(trust me I was a honda tech for 3yrs).
X1......just grind the edge of the stud till it fits!!!!
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