selling art

[Ra_15]

LOL, the local paper cost's about £20 for half a page here, but there are only around 25000 ppl in my town. Which I suppose isn't that bad.

[bonzelite]

Originally Posted by Ra_15

LOL, the local paper cost's about £20 for half a page here, but there are only around 25000 ppl in my town. Which I suppose isn't that bad.

dirt cheap, man. do it. great place to start.

[asaenz]

Of course you know big Al Saenz has to say something even though the only art I have sold was those darn finger skateboards I use to make in 5/6/7th grade....

I am going to link this thread in FAQ, there is some good information here, thx to Lemorris and Bonz.

Of course you friendly neighborhood book worm has some books for youz guys. I have read most of them or reviewed them, but gosh darn it I need to apply them.

Art Marketing 101 ISBN 0-940899-32-9
Constance Smith

Blding a career as a visual artist by
Cay Lang ISBN 0-8118-1815-2

Art Office by Constance Smith
ISBN 0-940899-27-2 Artnetwork

How to Survive and Prosper as an Artist,
5th ed. : Selling Yourself Without Selling
Your Soul by Caroll Michels (Author)

The Artist's Guide to New Markets: Opportunities
to Show and Sell Art Beyond Galleries
by Peggy Hadden

Art Marketing 101: A Handbook for the Fine
Artist by Constance Smith

Business & Legal Forms for Fine Artists
by Tad Crawford

I have spoken w/ Tad Crawford here is his site. He has many of the books above plus others. I believe he is the head publisher or something like that.

http://www.allworth.com/Pages/SC_AC.htm

Remember check your library and/or college library esp. if they have a Graphic Arts program. My local library has many of the art/biz books from Allworth

al

[SeCrEtMoDdEr]

wow, theres a LOT of stuff here...

thanks a lot guys

[mike@af]

Al just reccomended more books...

...what a surprise.

[HighOctaneNOSUser]

lol

[thatoneguy88888]

what u can do is gat a binder full of drawings and show them to ppl at ur school, and if they like them and r impresed then juss ask them if they wanna buy 1, thats wut i do

[lostprophets]

hey that's how i make money for lunch.... i make around $25 a week which isn't bad... but now that schools out the cash flow is toast

[bonzelite]

To update, since I am venturing into my own independent projects for sale, apart from my storyboarding career, I am seriously looking into promoting VisualHomage (my company) with banner ads.

I am to target certain car forums at the outset and run ads to establish a presence. Such ads, I've found, typically go for $100/month, with a year commitment required, ie, $1200/yr.

I don't know what the rate is for this site, but others fit that profile. It takes money to make money.

As well, I am pricing printing costs for posters. So far I've found running 1000 copies seems to be the minimum for most print shops and they will do it for about $900.

I am continuing to look around because that is too many posters of one image that is unproven. I want more like 1000 posters but 250 of each image. This way I can test market the images. Some will sell better than others.

There are then web site costs and shipping costs. This entails an online merchant account, credit card/shopping cart checkout, mailing tubes, various other things.

This is essentially a garage-based business method of working until the venture takes off. It's a total experiment.

It's the most direct way I can think of to directly market your own original art work.
I will update the section as things progress....

Chad

[bonzelite]

Insofar as storyboarding, that is an entirely different career direction than forming your own artistic identity as an "original artist."

Storyboarding is mostly adapting other's original ideas to a cinematic flow with continuity editing and camera movement considered. It is more of a vocation than an artform, although it can have artistic overtones.

To get into that field requires a passion for cinema and advertising combined in a sequential image presentation. It's more the realm of a self-taught person motivated to get into that specific and small field.

There are college courses that cover storyboarding, but are, to my knowledge, far too brief in nature to provide an artist with the needed skills to be thrown cold-turkey into a situation.

However, I have found that no amount of training is ever good enough, and at a point, one must throw themselves into it at risk of both success and failure.

Many people with comic book backgrounds migrate to storyboarding as it is initially and largely more instantly lucrative. However, a comic book mode of continuity and frame design is NOT directly cross-compatible with advertising or filmmaking.

They're similar but very different in area of focus. A comic book page is more about overall design impact and less about shootable frames.

Most comic books are not shootable directly from the images (with rare exception such as The Matrix which was drawn directly for film in a comic book style, and Sin City --originally a comic but adapted to film for it's film noir traits).

I came from a technical drawing and television background and not a comic book background. My father was a tv art director and drew storyboards, and in high school I had vocational training in mechanical drafting.

Combining the two areas gives you my style and manner of approach to artistic ideas. I am at a point where I wish to eventually leave the tv/film industry and create original artwork exclusively. I endeavor to do this with VisualHomage.

Chad

[xpeed]

^ Holy Thread Revival Batman......he's banned btw.

[bonzelite]

who's banned? the original thread's author?

I figured I'd revive the thread because it's a good source of real-world advice.

And back when I first posted here, almost 4 years ago, I wasn't up to a point in my career where I was 'selling my art" in the way that I am talking about now.

Sure, I was selling my services, but not really my art. I often don't see my storyboarding career as selling my "art." Do you see what I'm saying?