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Old 09-07-2005, 07:54 PM   #1
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2.0 non turbo

Ok I need to know if a turbo from a 2.0 eagle talon will fit a 2.0 dodge neon. If not would one from a 2.0 pt cruiser work seeing as they are the same engine..
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Old 09-07-2005, 08:38 PM   #2
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Re: 2.0 non turbo

welll it should you will just have to get a new pcm and bigger injectors oil lines new head gasket and boost mabe 8 psi on the internals and it should be fine But hey its a long job but its fun and i think very much so worth it.
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Old 09-07-2005, 09:34 PM   #3
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Re: 2.0 non turbo

use the turbo assmebly off of a srt4/pt turbo. you will need manifold, turbo, and ic. you will need to fabricate piping, oil lines, coolant lines, exhaust. you will also need to get wastegate, fuel system, and a computer
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Old 09-07-2005, 10:45 PM   #4
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well I wanted to make sure seeing as mine is a stock auto. sohc. I know everything that is involved but noone really knew if was gunna work. I know its gunna be a long shot, but well worth it. I just wanted to make sure... I am good working on things but this I wasnt to sure on.. I can pick up a small one off of a talon..
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Old 09-08-2005, 08:32 AM   #5
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Re: 2.0 non turbo

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Ok I need to know if a turbo from a 2.0 eagle talon will fit a 2.0 dodge neon. If not would one from a 2.0 pt cruiser work seeing as they are the same engine..
You can make any turbo work as long as you get a custom manifold made.

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and a computer
What computer? Neons can use the stock PCM with a turbo.
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Old 09-08-2005, 06:56 PM   #6
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Re: 2.0 non turbo

if you want to use your factory fuel system and factory sensors/computer, without any form of modification to it, good luck. but if you start playing with fuel pressures and injectors sizes, you better know EXACTLY what your doing. otherwise pickup a piggyback unit/safc/or stand alone, and tune properly/safely
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Old 09-08-2005, 07:24 PM   #7
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Re: Re: 2.0 non turbo

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if you want to use your factory fuel system and factory sensors/computer, without any form of modification to it, good luck.
This can be done safely, easily and without difficulty. Take the Hahn kit for example, it doesn't come with a different computer and the stock one works well. Have you heard different TEXSRT4?

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otherwise pickup a piggyback unit/safc/or stand alone, and tune properly/safely
I do agree after installation, tuning is a definite must!
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Old 09-08-2005, 09:26 PM   #8
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Re: 2.0 non turbo

well i was lookin at site where people have done slight mods.. and there was a dohc with stock everything and he had a turbo and no intercooler and stock fuel rail and 36lb injectors.. Well here is the car (http://www.97neon.com/)
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Old 09-08-2005, 11:59 PM   #9
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you can do the install and it will run, but you run a real risk of going boom. i mean think about it. more air, same fuel? boom! bigger injectors/higher fuel pressure to accomidate for fue? too much gas when not under boost, fouls plugs, o2sensors, cats, etc; needless to say, in this day and age, you dont want to waste more gas then necessary.

the factory computer has some play with everything, as long as your not WOT (open loop system does not use o2 sensor, so it will run with a preset fuel map, meaning that while underboost, its not matching fuel!!!!!!!) you really are going to want to pick up a SAFC at the bare minimum. if you want to do it better, then pick up a emanage or a power-paq. or if you really want to do it then pick up an AEM EMS unit available in the next month or so!!!

das, most turbo kits dont come with computer/injector/programmer setups, they leave that up to you because every car is different and every state requires differnt things for smog. so you are on your own. it might work on a stock 1gen, but i dont know for sure. but everything i have done with turbos tells me that you need to match with fuel, well and timing too, if you can. when you add boost you need to retard timing (approx. .75*/psi of boost) to prevent detonation; but thats a totally differnt story all together
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Old 09-09-2005, 02:31 AM   #10
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Re: 2.0 non turbo

Ok lets say I went with a stock eagle talon turbo nothing spec. and I do the fuel up grade and all the other stuff would I be able to use a programmer on ecm without upgradeing it just yet.. I am only putting the turbo for a small gain.. I mean I am talkin 8 psi , that is just for right now.. I know that is sort of kinda a waste but u have to drive the car to understand, its incrediblely fast for a sohc auto..
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Re: Re: 2.0 non turbo

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it might work on a stock 1gen, but i dont know for sure.
It does work. The Hahn kit comes with 24lb injectors which is big enough for 8 psi. The only aftermarket computers for the 1st gen are the Mopar PCM and AF/X PCM, neither of which work with turbo's very well. The stock PCM works great though. No need to get it reprogrammed or flashed.

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I know that is sort of kinda a waste but u have to drive the car to understand, its incrediblely fast for a sohc auto..
Have you considered swapping an MTX into your car to make it quicker?
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Old 09-09-2005, 09:40 PM   #12
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mtx?
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Old 09-09-2005, 10:03 PM   #13
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mtx?
Manual Transmission
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Old 09-09-2005, 10:07 PM   #14
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Re: 2.0 non turbo

nah my car can take manuals with ease.. Good idea though but way to much work to do..
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Old 09-10-2005, 01:57 AM   #15
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Re: 2.0 non turbo

once you go stick you never go back.
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