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[Heep]

Disclaimer: This thread is my own current personal opinion and not something I ever plan on taking action on. This thread deals with my views on the United States, so if you're a hardcore, die-for-my-country, America rules the world kind of person, you might as well leave now. This thread in no way implicates that I judge, or ever plan on judging US citizens based on my feelings towards the country itself. I have several very good friends that are US citizens and they are good people. This thread will use "the US" as a general statement referring to the stereotypical asshole citizen, whom I hope is not you. This thread may contain occasional strong language. Now, if you're still interested in my rant that I have to get out of my system, read on.

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Fuck the United States.

I'm sick of it. Things have just been getting worse and worse and I can't bottle this in any longer. There are several things ranging from personal annoyances to world scale mistakes, but all bug me equally.

First off, who the hell gives the US the right to meddle in other countries affairs? Who the hell gives the US the right to overthrow a government because they don't like the way it's being run? That's like those fuckers at the mall who want you arrested if you discipline your child. I've seen Americans ask on here before why everyone hates their country, and most blame it all on jealousy. "We're so much better, stronger, smarter than all of you foreigners, you're just jealous of us." Riiiiighttt.............. Let me tell you why the world hates the US. The world hates the US because the US is both the school jock and the school bully at the same time, equaling one big pain in the ass. The jock is the epitome of self-righteousness and egotism. No one is better than me, I'm the smartest, I'm the prettiest, I'm the richest. I get what I want because everyone else wants to be me, and if they don't, well I'll just unleash the bullies on them. The bully decides what and whom he likes and doesn't like, and does all in his power to make what he doesn't like miserable. I don't like you. I don't like the way you smell. I don't like that pimple on your forehead. I'm gonna pummel you until you agree, and if you don't agree, I'll pummel you some more. One phrase that always sends me into a belly laugh is "We don't want these nukes falling into the wrong hands" or "We need to keep all the nukes so no one worse has control of them." Ha! There's the self-righteous egotistic jock. Other countries don't agree, they unleash the bully. "We must remove the weapons of mass destruction and make sure the country gets a new leader that conforms to the great American way of life." That is why the world hates the US.

My sister, for the past 5 or 6 years, has been attending a couple different colleges in Florida. There is this course relating to marine mammals that she so desperately wants to take. She has the marks, she signed up soon enough, and all her teachers like her and hope she can take the course. However, new anti-terrorism legislation might just make it so that she cannot take the course, because "International students will not be allowed to take a course not directly related to their field of study" (hers is zoology, pretty close if you ask me). Because of this, she might not be able to receive all the credits she needs and may not be able to graduate. After 6 fucking years!

Anti-terrorism. Well isn't that special. Canadian mail coming to and from Campobello Island, a part of New Brunswick, Canada, destined to other Canadian addresses is now under US scrutiny. Because of the island's location, the easiest mail route is through the tip of Maine. Despite originating in Canada and being destined for Canada, the mail is being opened and searched in Maine as part of the new "anti-terrorism" policies. Every time I go into the US I'm questioned and searched, and then get let in if they feel like it. In no time at all, not a single non-US citizen won't even be able to get in! Mail obviously can't get in or out either..."Hey guys lets make it so hard for anybody not from here to do any business with us that tourism drops 800% and all imports and exports cease!! Good thing we've got these new anti-terrorism measures!" If a terrorist wanted in somehow I doubt he'd be stupid enough to drive across the border in a car full of bombs.

So, looks like we've got a jock & bully sort of country so bent on conforming, no, conquering the rest of the world to follow the American way of life and making sure not a single American dies (even though it's OK if 500,000 Middle Easterners do) that it's forgotten all about it's manners and the simple concept of politeness that it turns the entire world against it and it can no longer support it's economy, making the country crumble in under it's own weight.

I've tried to be "tolerant" (as seems to be so popular nowadays), but things have gone downhill so far that I will now just sit back and watch the downward spiral while muttering "I told you so."

[Jimster]

It's worse at the fucking airports, they let anyone with an American passport through without checking them- but if you are a Canadian, Brit, NZer, Western Europer, Australian etc......You are a suspected terrorist, they raid your bags and porn and shoes, while the US guy who was in Al Qaeda walks through the damned airport- makes no damn sense to me...............Oh well it's Americas fault that thier economy is in recession, no-one elses

[mycivic]

Originally Posted by Jimster

It's worse at the fucking airports, they let anyone with an American passport through without checking them- but if you are a Canadian, Brit, NZer, Western Europer, Australian etc......You are a suspected terrorist, they raid your bags and porn and shoes, while the US guy who was in Al Qaeda walks through the damned airport- makes no damn sense to me...............Oh well it's Americas fault that thier economy is in recession, no-one elses

oh yes they really do that and it sucks big time...especially if your asian. happens all the time to me.

[freakray]

Justified rant

[RyanGiorgio]

Try fucking living here. We say were so free yet we are sheltered from every single fucking thing that can be to our entertainment. In many other countries commercials have nudity in them. We can't even show half an ass in our fucking commercials.

The US is like the world's police, cept were like the racist fucker police that kicked the shit out of Rodney King. We say were making the world safer...fuck that. If anything were making it more dangerous for terrorism by pissing them off even more. We just keep bringing more fucking hate on ourselves...and I can't wait til the day I get my ass out of this fucked up country. I didnt get a chance to live hear or not, and its unfortunate that I do. I hate this fucking country, we are so fucking unfair.

Awesome post, Heep. I, as a US citizen, agree with you 100%. It sucks.

An Jimster, they raid your porn and give it to George W. because he needs something else to get off on than his ugly fucker wife.

Peace. I hate the US.

`RG

[blindside.AMG]

Um, ok. But if you guys hate the US so much then why do you care if you can't get in? Seems kind of weird when you say how much you hate the US then bitch when you can't get in.

[Heep]

Originally Posted by blindside.AMG

Um, ok. But if you guys hate the US so much then why do you care if you can't get in? Seems kind of weird when you say how much you hate the US then bitch when you can't get in.

Because you have cheaper smokes, warmer weather, and pink frosted cookies

Most of my...actually virtually all of my US entries are related to my sister and her school, be it visiting her, her graduation from her last school, etc. Once she's finished there I don't expect I'll be visiting again for a very long time.

[freakray]

Originally Posted by RyanGiorgio

Try fucking living here. We say were so free yet we are sheltered from every single fucking thing that can be to our entertainment. In many other countries commercials have nudity in them. We can't even show half an ass in our fucking commercials.

The US is like the world's police, cept were like the racist fucker police that kicked the shit out of Rodney King. We say were making the world safer...fuck that. If anything were making it more dangerous for terrorism by pissing them off even more. We just keep bringing more fucking hate on ourselves...and I can't wait til the day I get my ass out of this fucked up country. I didnt get a chance to live hear or not, and its unfortunate that I do. I hate this fucking country, we are so fucking unfair.

Awesome post, Heep. I, as a US citizen, agree with you 100%. It sucks.

An Jimster, they raid your porn and give it to George W. because he needs something else to get off on than his ugly fucker wife.

Peace. I hate the US.

`RG

RG, I don't believe you're as young as you claim, you have far too a sensible head on those shoulders for somebody your age.

[TexasF355F1]

I understand what you are saying as I read it from the point of view as someone outside of America. The only thing I question though, is if so many countries seem to hate us, then why is it when they're in need of some sort of economic help they come knocking on our door? We're in a lose lose situation. If we deny help we're scrutinized, and if we help we don't get reimburrsed and are still hated. You mentioned not involving ourselves with the way other countries are run. We wouldn't have if Saddam wasn't such an a-hole dictator. He's not a leader, he's a man in search of power and gets his jolly's off by torturing and killing people who dont do what he expects. He practically brainwashed a large sum of the people by his use of force. No one deserves to be tortured and or killed for something as unjust as not supporting the government.

Jimster, the reason those terrorists made it on the planes was before any sort of higher security was attempted to be put in place(they may have vary well still have gotten away with it even so). And even whats in place doesn't really work in anyway except by luck. Largely in part b/c they do it randomly. My mom has been stopped and searched a few times since 9/11 and she's the least harmful looking person there is. And having listened to many local radio talk shows, so many innocent people have even been strip searched. Don't think they're just stopping internation visitors, b/c they're not.

Originally Posted by RyanGiorgio

Try fucking living here. We say were so free yet we are sheltered from every single fucking thing that can be to our entertainment. In many other countries commercials have nudity in them. We can't even show half an ass in our fucking commercials.

The US is like the world's police, cept were like the racist fucker police that kicked the shit out of Rodney King. We say were making the world safer...fuck that. If anything were making it more dangerous for terrorism by pissing them off even more. We just keep bringing more fucking hate on ourselves...and I can't wait til the day I get my ass out of this fucked up country. I didnt get a chance to live hear or not, and its unfortunate that I do. I hate this fucking country, we are so fucking unfair.

Awesome post, Heep. I, as a US citizen, agree with you 100%. It sucks.

An Jimster, they raid your porn and give it to George W. because he needs something else to get off on than his ugly fucker wife.

Peace. I hate the US.

`RG

Is nudity that important to you? If so, maybe you haven't heard of HBO, Showtime, Cinemax? If you want to see slight nudity then watch NYPD Blue. I've seen a total side shot of a nake woman several times. I saw in your profile that your 16. You should be more concerned with school than seeing some ass in a shampoo commercial. As for the race card you brought up, racism runs rampant all over the world not just in the U.S. The vast majority of U.S. citizens aren't racists, it just seems that way b/c of the stupid ass media.

That's my opinion, in no way did i plan to offend anyone so please don't take anything personally. The biggest problem I have with America is everyone expects something for free and people get offended by the littlest comments. Political correctness is way overrated. There is a lot of things wrong with America, but there are also problems in the way every other country is run as well.

[mycivic]

everyone...everything well said with his/her own point of view. nothing really bothers me about what heep said...the only thing i dont like is like i said...when you are not of american national, i just somehow see that if you dont hold that blue passport, people of other nationals are suspected terrorists...just that. my point of view is that...the US may suck the way people say it sucks...but at least its probably the best place on earth that sucks. just my peace to you all.

[raysoh8]

what anti-terrorism laws? fucking hypocracy! the meaning of terrorism is- they terrorise other poeples land, try to take control of other peoples land, stuff whatever, and isnt that what they are doing? you can always tell if a white faced guy is american in singapore, just look at them, britons, autsralians dont act like them, they just walk right into you if your asian and in their way. they walk into a shop, the salesperson asks them if they need any help and what do they say? "get lost, i never asked you" or "i dont need help from asians" things like that

[Solomon219]

Alright, I feel I have to put my in here. Let me just say that I'm from Kentucky and I've lived here all my life. I don't think I'll please anyone in here.

First, I believe that America should adopt an isolationist policy towards the rest of the world. Let's withdraw our troops and withdraw our aid, and then we'll let the rest of the world SEE how much we really mean to them. I think they'll have so much crime, terrorism and poverty that they'll be begging to intervene again. And then I would have them all sign treaties giving us sovereignty over all those who come crawling back. That's my policy on the rest of the world.

As for LIVING in America, well, I can trace my ancestors to have been in ALL the wars fought on this continent back to the Revolution (the land I live on today was a gift from George Washington to one of my great (x ?) grandfathers for his valor), and from before that I can trace my roots to Scotland, Ireland, England, Switzerland, and Germany. I LOVE America.

At least, I love the way America USED to be, how it was envisioned by our founding fathers. Now all the gov't is trying to do is TAKE AWAY every single right that was given to us in the Constitution. I think that everyone in these United States, who is not in gov't, should be a part of a militia. In the end, when Uncle Sam comes to claim the last of your human rights, you'll have no one to fight for you EXCEPT the militia. Uncle Sam controls all the armies, and they'll be working for HIM! I've always wanted to move out of America, and partly still do as soon as I finish my degree (International Economics) but then I feel that I can't abandon the people here. I've got to do all that I can to ENSURE our freedoms, or else democracy will die. If it dies here, in it's Heartland of America, then it will die across the globe.

I'm a conservative, right-wing, Christian, Republican, and I believe that George W. Bush is doing more to protect these freedoms than any President has for some time. I support him in everything he does, and I'd like to see him as a PERMANENT President, but that's not the way democracy works. Now I'm left worrying that some liberal Democratic hack is going to get elected and whose pacifist ideas are going send us into some irreversible spiral downward to where WE are the underdog country, and anyone who wants to can walk all over us.

Yes, I support militias (it is our right). Yes, I am a gun-owner and member of the NRA (this is also our right). But I'm not the gun-toting maniac shouting "KILL! KILL! KILL!" that you are probably thinking I am. This is how you've been CONDITIONED to think of those who would fight for our freedoms. You may call me a revolutionary, but wasn't that what England called our forefathers? If we do not fight back, if we do not fight to keep our freedoms, then we are no better than those Iraqis over there who are having us bail them out. They were under a dictatorial regime whose leader could have you killed on a whim. And nobody fought back. Is this what you want?

Post back and let me know what you think. Before you judge me, tell me what problems you have with what I've stated above, and let me defend myself if need be. I'd do the same for you.

Thanks for letting me have my say. - S

[TexasF355F1]

Originally Posted by Solomon219

At least, I love the way America USED to, how it was envisioned by our founding fathers. Now all the gov't is trying to do is TAKE AWAY every single right that was given to us in the Constitution. I think that everyone in these United States, who is not in gov't, should be a part of a militia. In the end, when Uncle Sam comes to claim the last of your human rights, you'll have no one to fight for you EXCEPT the militia. Uncle Sam controls all the armies, and they'll be working for HIM! I've always wanted to move out of America, and partly still do as soon as I finish my degree (International Economics) but then I feel that I can't abandon the people here. I've got to do all that I can to ENSURE our freedoms, or else democracy will die. If it dies here, in it's Heartland of America, then it will die across the globe.

That's exactly right. The government was built on completely opposite principles of what the current vision is. The founding fathers would be appaled by the way things our today.

[jon@af]

Originally Posted by Solomon219

Let's withdraw our troops and withdraw our aid, and then we'll let the rest of the world SEE how much we really mean to them. I think they'll have so much crime, terrorism and poverty that they'll be begging to intervene again. And then I would have them all sign treaties giving us sovereignty over all those who come crawling back. That's my policy on the rest of the world.

That sounds a bit extreme. It might cause problems for others, but it would also cause problems for us; a lot of foreign trade is how we do a lot of the things we do in this country, and to become isolationist would sever ties to those countries that we depend ourselves. I honestly think we should give aid when aid is asked for, whether it be the country asking for it or the UN, or what have you.

[Solomon219]

To you Americans reading this post:

Do you think I can count on your vote when I run for President?

or

Just wondering. Thanks. - S