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Old 09-10-2005, 10:21 AM   #16
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Re: Re: 2.0 non turbo

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nah my car can take manuals with ease.. Good idea though but way to much work to do..
The same neon with similiar mods and has a manual will take you with ease. Manual neons will always be quicker than autos.

Swapping in a manual transmission is no more work than say, turbo'ing a car!
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Old 09-10-2005, 12:12 PM   #17
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The same neon with similiar mods and has a manual will take you with ease. Manual neons will always be quicker than autos.

Swapping in a manual transmission is no more work than say, turbo'ing a car!
besides, manual is more fun.
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Old 09-10-2005, 06:57 PM   #18
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Re: 2.0 non turbo

shoot I have had my fair share
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Old 09-10-2005, 06:58 PM   #19
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Re: 2.0 non turbo

how can you just switch injectors, you are running pig rich at idle! that is going to eat cats/plugs/o2sensors. it may work, but moderatly at best. find a piggyback computer/fuel controller and actually make power on the kit!

you cant tell me that the power levels will be the same, there is no way. as well, you are freaking the factory computer out. a map sensor is designed to run at at ambient pressure, not boost. it is not going to be able to pull the timing necessary to keep things going well.

you can do it the cheap way, or the right way. its up to you. i prefer the right way, personally
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Old 09-10-2005, 10:58 PM   #20
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Re: 2.0 non turbo

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The same neon with similiar mods and has a manual will take you with ease. Manual neons will always be quicker than autos.

bro ur wrong my car is quicker than most 5 speeds i have raced and its not really the drivers, cause they are people i know can drive a stick, and to make matters worse the were dohc and honda's

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Re: Re: Re: 2.0 non turbo

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The same neon with similiar mods and has a manual will take you with ease. Manual neons will always be quicker than autos.

Swapping in a manual transmission is no more work than say, turbo'ing a car!
MANUAL VS AUTOMATIC= MANUAL EVERY TIME
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Old 09-11-2005, 07:24 PM   #22
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Re: 2.0 non turbo

Look I am not gunna sit here and argue with you but LIKE I SAID THE FIRST U HAVE TO SEE IT TO BELIEVE IT, NO LAG BABY NO LAG. But back to what I wanted to know do u think there will be a problem putting a dohc 2.0 turbo on a sohc 2.0
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Old 09-12-2005, 02:11 PM   #23
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bro ur wrong my car is quicker than most 5 speeds i have raced and its not really the drivers, cause they are people i know can drive a stick, and to make matters worse the were dohc and honda's
I am talking about an ATX neon vs a MTX neon. The MTX will win hands down every time.

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But back to what I wanted to know do u think there will be a problem putting a dohc 2.0 turbo on a sohc 2.0
I already told you that you will have to get a custom manifold built for it.
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Old 09-12-2005, 02:27 PM   #24
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how can you just switch injectors, you are running pig rich at idle! that is going to eat cats/plugs/o2sensors. it may work, but moderatly at best. find a piggyback computer/fuel controller and actually make power on the kit!
I didn't say not to put on a piggyback system, I would agree that you would need one. I would recommend the programmable MSD-DIS2, as the older one can only start to retard the timing starting at 4000 RPM. Use a STOCK PCM. Aftermarket PCMs give more power by ADVANCING the timing and leaning out the fuel curve. This is a very bad thing on a turbocharged vehicle. You need to retard the timing when boosting. It is possible to run both an aftermarket PCM, but you must find an ignition (piggyback spark controller) which can retard spark up to 25+ degrees. It's not worth it. An S-AFC can be used to tune the idle a little bit, but in no way should be used to increase fuel up high in the RPM band. The S-AFC adds/removes fuel in correlation with RPM, not boost.
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Old 09-12-2005, 03:31 PM   #25
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Re: 2.0 non turbo

ok das so i would assume there will be no problem then right? My car is an automatic..
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Old 09-12-2005, 05:43 PM   #26
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ok heres a few things for u kidd

1st. a stock dohc auto is 1/10 of a second quicker in 1/4mile
now as for a stock soch auto compared to stock 5 speed dohc manual will win u dont have enough power in a sohc also u cant utilize what little power u have in a sohc with a auto. when it comes to modified neons 5 speed everytime as long as they r modded the same.

2nd with the turbo haun makes a manifold

3rd dont ever brag about beating a honda, my grandmothers wheelchair can beat hondas and the chair is an auto..haha

4th u need a safc to make ur efforts worth while with the turbo. if u dont u wont get 200hp

5th 8psi is not a little boost on a neon engine it will put u well into mid 200s hp, with a weight redux. and 8 psi you'll be flyin down the street

ps. dont be tryin to act like u have a fast car, ur just gettin into this, u have no idea what u can do with a neon. for example im runnin 11s in the 1/4.........im n/a without nitrous.
" so i would assume there would be no problem right" ur an auto u can take me. how can u even launch that thing off a line? oh yeah u can always powerbreak and bring that baby to like........1800rpms and let her rip. ill be waiting at the track "kidd" let me guess u have a fart can on the back
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Old 09-12-2005, 05:57 PM   #27
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Re: 2.0 non turbo

sorry pink but u jumped into the wrong convo U can not sit there and tell me that a friggin manual dohc 2.0 is faster than my automatic sohc 2.0 I am tellin yall i have no up grades, except for an intake and i had recently got the top half of the engine redone.. I have raced plenty of manual dohc and non have takin me, this is from year 1995 to the 2003 models trust me i dont need to lie so dont tell me ok.. and second of all dont tell me that i am just gettin into this i have a ford f150 and i am running low 14's I came on this site to ask a simple question thats it so dont go assuming that i dont know shit ok.. cause u know what they say about assuming it makes an a&& out of u and me buddy.. Oh and by the way I thought the lil fart can thing was cute, for ur info im not a ricer im a racer. and now for ur info the car sucks on take off til i get to the third ban and its bye bye time.. Do me a favor ok learn how to read i was askin a question with the (so there will be no problem then)- thing.. Yeah u cant powerbrake a front wheel drive with out a stick u mean u could always put it in neutral and jam it into drive yea nice way to fuck up a tranny, Or u could just put it in low gear and shift at them nice lil shift points..
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Old 09-12-2005, 05:59 PM   #28
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Re: 2.0 non turbo

now back to texsrt-4 Im pretty sure u cant put an srt 4 manifold on a 2.0..
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Old 09-12-2005, 07:15 PM   #29
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wow an f150 im shakin and youll get to third while im 50 yards ahead while ur waiting 4 your power. and im not assuming anything i read what u typed and ur tryin to boast about ur raggity car. oh yeah dum ass u power brake by holding the brake down and giving it gas (putting the load on ur pads) when the light turns let the brake fly up and mash the gas,but im sure u already knew that and oh yeah ur not a racer your in a slow car. race my grandma's wheelchair. thatll be a race she has a fart can on it................................................ .................................................. .................as far as ur question u can use any manifold have a muffler shop match a flange from ur turbo and weld it to ur stock minifold thats on way. u dont need an after market com but if u want to be a "racer" as u put it u have to tune it or ur big bad 14 sec f150 will beat it everytime,use a safc and tune ur fuel
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Old 09-12-2005, 07:34 PM   #30
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yeha no shit.. u must not have read cause ur still going on about a manifold when i asked about a turbo.. Like I said u cant power brake in an automatic front wheel drive car.. Dude see everything was fine til u got on here runnning ur mouth i wasnt starting shit with neone but lemme tell u i wasnt telling u about my truck to make a smart ass comment i was letting u know i know what i am talkin about and about the fart can u have to have an exhaust for that i have a stock muffler aaaaahhhh blew that idea out of the water.. U cant boast when ur knockin on ur own car in the first place. I just said it can take a manual dohc that all homie.. but to let u know maybe u should go read up on ur engine a lil more homie u still dont know shit.. so get a clue bro u lost this battle.. Now to change the subject wouldnt it be easier to go with a programmer than using a piggy back..
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