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Old 07-23-2001, 02:16 PM   #1
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TVR Cerbera Vs. Nissan Skyline...

All honesty people do you think a Skyline could keep up with a V8 lighter then air Cerbera lol. I'm not saying it can't be done, but it would be very unlikely. I am a Skyline fan don't get me wrong. But after the the jump, which the Skyline would get a great one at that. It would stop acceling. and the Cerbera would just eat it up. Then again I think a RX-7 would do the same. Once the RX-7 winds up it out just explode pass the Skyline. I'm not trying to make any ememies on here just want your honest thoughts about this issue.







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Old 07-23-2001, 02:20 PM   #2
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Well, that is the difference in horsepower and torgue. If you give GT-R more boost, Cerbera will be the one to be eaten up

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Not trying to make enemies?:huh:

If Igor sees this, he'll pop a gasket! I think that RX-7 statement is definitely unfounded. A skyline will blow it away.
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Old 07-23-2001, 02:22 PM   #4
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Oh! Post some facts with your statements too. Guys in here will eat you alive if you don't back up what you say. Just a little friendly advice.
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Old 07-23-2001, 02:57 PM   #5
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Well my dad is bigger than your dad:finger:


There will always be someone out there that can smoke you. Give some VALID 1/4 times, and we will talk. Other than that, talk is cheap.

What makes the rx7 so bad is its ability to spin, but that engine has no toque to help it get out of its own way. I do like them, but only if it was capable of producing some torque.

Oh, and like you will ever own Cerbera.
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Here You Guys Go...

Thanks for the advice



TVR Cerbera:

General Information

Manufacturer TVR
Model Year 1994
Price (USD) $69,000

Vehicle Dimensions

Curb Weight 2475 lbs.
Wheel Base 101 in.
Track Front 57 in.
Track Rear 58 in.
Length 169 in.
Width 74 in.
Height 48 in.

Engine Information

Type V8
Displacement 4185 cc.
Horsepower 420 bhp @ 6500 rpm
Torque 320 ft-lb. @ 4500 rpm
Transmission 5-spd Manual
Layout Front Engine/RWD

Performance Specs

0-60 Time 3.9 seconds
Top Speed 162 mph



Nissan Skyline:

General Information

Manufacturer Nissan
Model Year 1996
Price (USD) $54,600

Vehicle Dimensions

Curb Weight 1530 lbs.
Wheel Base 2720 mm.
Track Front 1486 mm.
Track Rear 1490 mm.
Length 4675 mm.
Width 1780 mm.
Height 1360 mm.

Engine Information

Type I-6
Displacement 2568 cc.
Horsepower 206 kW @ 6800 rpm
Torque 271 Nm @ 4400 rpm
Transmission 5-spd Manual
Layout Front Engine/4WD

Performance Specs

0-60 Time 5.5 seconds
Top Speed 180 Km/h



Mazda RX-7:

General Information

Manufacturer Mazda
Model Year 1993
Price (USD) $32,000

Vehicle Dimensions

Curb Weight 2695 lbs.
Wheel Base 96 in.
Track Front 57 in.
Track Rear 57 in.
Length 169 in.
Width 69 in.
Height 48 in.

Engine Information

Type Wankel Rotary
Displacement 1307 cc.
Horsepower 255 bhp @ 6500 rpm
Torque 217 ft-lb. @ 5000 rpm
Transmission 5-spd Manual
Layout Front Engine/RWD

Performance Specs

0-60 Time 4.9 seconds
Top Speed 156 mph


Let's throw a Supra in there just cuz.



Toyota Supra:

General Information

Manufacturer Toyota
Model Year 1998
Price (USD) $40,700

Vehicle Dimensions

Curb Weight 3505 lbs.
Wheel Base 100 in.
Track Front 59.8 in.
Track Rear 60 in.
Length 177.8 in.
Width 71 in.
Height 50.2 in.

Engine Information

Type I-6
Displacement 2997 cc.
Horsepower 320 bhp @ 5600 rpm
Torque 315 ft-lb. @ 4000 rpm
Transmission 6-spd Manual
Layout Front Engine/RWD

Performance Specs

0-60 Time 4.8 seconds
Top Speed 157 mph

Alter the stats. anyway you see fit let's just be fair about it. And thanks for the greeting folks, laterz.
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Exclamation One Last Thing...

In one post on here someone said the New Skylines will be a V8 with twin turbo. Okay, why on God's green Earth would someone have to go that darn fast! Say good bye to the Vette's looks like the only thing messing with that is going to have to be the new Camaro's



General Information

Manufacturer Chevrolet
Model Year 2000
Price (USD) N/A

Vehicle Dimensions

Curb Weight 3523 lbs.
Wheel Base 101.1 in.
Track Front N/A
Track Rear N/A
Length 193.5 in.
Width 75.5 in.
Height 51.2 in.

Engine Information

Type V8
Displacement 9373 cc.
Horsepower 770 bhp @ 6900 rpm
Torque 683 ft-lb. @ 5200 rpm
Transmission 5-spd Manual
Layout Front Engine/RWD

Performance Specs

0-60 Time 3.0 seconds
Top Speed 230 mph

Just for thought! Hey I'm at work bored with T1 connections you think of something better to do :smoker:
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Camaro's dad has to be the biggest with almost 10,000cc's.


Nice job Omega on the specs and pics.
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Old 07-23-2001, 05:56 PM   #9
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The Skyline you posted is a R34, but you have the specs of a R33, also that should 1530Kg not lbs,mmmmmmmk. Thanks.
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The Cerbera will blow the GT-R and RX-7 and Supra Turbo away. It's lighter and has more power and torque. But they all handle very well. Still, once again the Cerbera is faster though. To tell you the truth though I haven't driven an RX-7 as crazy as I drove the TVR, GT-R and Supra so it's more of a wild card for me.
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Old 07-23-2001, 06:33 PM   #11
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Talking Cerbera v. Skyline

Living, only 10 minutes away from Blackpool where they make that TVR junk, I have raced a Cerbera. (in my R33)

Between 60 and approx 150mph he did pull away from me, but only by what looked to be about 50 metres.

In my defence, It was before I realised that I needed to be using 97 Octane fuel, and my car was running fairly standard at 320-330bhp.

I have had a play with one on the country roads too. They cannot stick with me. The suspension setup and ability to place the power onto the road cannot compete with the competance of a Skyline.

So there!

Oh yeah! And the build quality! The less said the better!
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Madman, do you have to say anything to the specs posted??

Hint - "0-60 - 5.5 seconds" :huh:

Stock R34 can do 4.7.... R33 should be able to pull of high 4's as well.
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Woooo....TVR...my first love! I'd always liked the TVR and when they introduced the Griffith I just couldn't sleep at night...until I bought my R33 though Now, there's no Cebera in M'sia but a lot of Chimera 4.5 & 4.2. I'd driven a 4.5 Chimera. Handles like shite.... especially in the rain. Build quality is sub standard....feels like a plastic car!
One fine day, I'd raced with a 4.5 Chimera. Not exactly a Cebera but about the same displacement. Whupped his arse in 2nd and left him for dead in 3rd! Waited for him about half a km later and the bugger did not even dare to come near anymore! Bring on the Cebera and I'm quite sure it would leave me in 1st and 2nd. But in 3rd or 4th, he...he...anything could happen! On te track though, I think the Cebera does not stand a chance! In last year's 12 hour endurance, the 4.5 Chimera fully worked lost to a fully worked EVO 3 (yes...EVO THREE) and a 170 hp Elise.
On the RX 7, that's a different proposition. My friend's brother has a 400 hp RX 7 and driving it I can tell you it is FAAAAST! His HKS single turbo spools up faster than you can say "boost" and the torque makes you stick to the seat with your tounge going in your throat. And this happens throughout the rev range up to 7000rpm. After driving that car, the owner asked whether I wnated to pit my 33 against his RX. I sheepishly said "no...thank you..." ( a mark of a wise man.... )
The Supra? I'd take it on anytime. So much wheel spin and it tracks like gel on tarmac On the track one day, my car flew pass a Supra and it tried to chase me after the straight. After several slow and fast corners, he gave up! :finger:
Would really love to take on a Cebera. No, not that RX 7 though!
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Old 07-24-2001, 02:33 PM   #14
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TVR for the torque.

Yeah, and I think those Camaro stats are...umm...wrong. It's not going to be faster to 60 than the McLaren F1, sorry.
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Hmmm Top speed on a Camaro 230MPH!!!!!! Where in the WORLD did you get these stats from?!


Stock the RX-7 can not compete against the Skyline when it comes down to straight lines or curves, same goes for the Supra, but tweaked?! Hell a heavily modified Ford "Bogus" could be just about any stock car so not really worth talking about.:alien2:
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