What Mclarens do you have pictures of?

[hurstg01]

^^ Erik, my 4 pics of #017 don't show a windscreen banner, that's why I discounted it. Can you share your pic?

EDIT - or did you mean this one? I didn't think this was #017 and I can't make out the windscreen banner if it is

[Peloton25]

That's the photo I was referring to. If you play with the brightness levels you can see the windshield banner a bit better.

I don't think Chris Dawes was the original owner of #017. I suspect that David Morrison may have been, hence the reason those two cars are pictured together.

>8^)
ER

[hurstg01]

Originally Posted by Peloton25

That's the photo I was referring to. If you play with the brightness levels you can see the windshield banner a bit better.

It still looks like the sun visor is down to me

Originally Posted by Peloton25

I don't think Chris Dawes was the original owner of #017. I suspect that David Morrison may have been, hence the reason those two cars are pictured together.

That makes sense, especially if it is #017 next to LM3, although the numberplate size differs (UK number plates are large, as in the pic of what is beleived to be #017 in a marquee tent). I must admit, after going through my pics of LM3, I can't find a pic of it sitting on a nice surface like it is in the pic above; it's either in the workshop (cracked, uneven surface), on a driveway (nice smooth surface), in Woking (on a nice carpet) or on the road.

Can you tell I am sill undecided

[Le Man]

This is the only other pic I could find of this gathering at Goodwood 95. (if anybody has more, please post)

(I have increased the size to 1024)

To me, the dark red F1 on the left looks more like a solid colour (021), than a pearl (017) We need more pics

[hurstg01]

Could this be from the same day? Due to the poor lighting the red seems orange in this photo

[Le Man]

If we keep this up,.....we, will all go colour blind runaround

Love the orange!!

Thanks for the pic Greg,

[Peloton25]

I enhanced the garage shot as best I could to bring out what little detail there is of the windshield banner.



Here's an example of how it would have looked:


You can make out a bit more detail on it in these images too:



Cross reference that second shot with photos we already believe are #017 and you'll see the interior seems to match up as well:



That's my take on it.

>8^)
ER

[Peloton25]

Originally Posted by hurstg01

...especially if it is #017 next to LM3, although the numberplate size differs (UK number plates are large, as in the pic of what is beleived to be #017 in a marquee tent).

If the size on the number plate is holding you back from entertaining my theory, take note of these images of the front number plate on LM3 which read '1 SEN' when Morrison had it.





Also, the shots of LM3 taken outside at McLaren Cars in front of the Formula One rig show an identical sized plate or plate holder in the front. We've also seen smaller-than-normal UK front plates on other F1s like #011, #069 which are just slightly smaller, or #16R which is almost identical in size to what's seen here on LM3. Either the law allows for some variance, or owners make a concious decision knowing there may be a penalty.

Incidentally, the rear plate on LM3 was standard UK size - it can be seen (unclearly) in the short drive-off video from the 1999 Gumball event.

>8^)
ER

[hurstg01]

I meant the plate on #017, as this size shown here

differs to the one shown here


BTW for the shot of LM3 with the PHUSE logo on the front, I only had a miniscule pic of it before now.

[Peloton25]

Glad I helped with something. The one I had is hardly what I'd call big...

With the difference you show in your last post I chalk that up to the different owners having different plates/registrations. I think the tent photo was taken a lot later than the LM garage shot.

Here's a question - when the owner of a car in the UK puts a personalized number plate on their car, what happens with the original one? Does it get returned to the DVLA as it would here, or does it remain associated with the vehicle to be put back on at a later date if the personalized plate is retired?

BTW: Shouldn't you be over at the hospital right now coaching your wife to push or something??

>8^)
ER

[hurstg01]

Originally Posted by Peloton25

Here's a question - when the owner of a car in the UK puts a personalized number plate on their car, what happens with the original one? Does it get returned to the DVLA as it would here, or does it remain associated with the vehicle to be put back on at a later date if the personalized plate is retired?
>8^)
ER

I believe the original plate stays with the car, as the personal plate can be transferred to any car the owner owns, as long as they notify the DVLA. If the owner sells the personal plate, the original plate gets put back on the car unless he buys yet another personal plate to replace it.

Originally Posted by Peloton25

BTW: Shouldn't you be over at the hospital right now coaching your wife to push or something??
>8^)
ER

Should be, but the baby is hanging on in there . We have a mid-wife appointment at lunchtime today, so we will know a bit more about what's going to happen after then. I don't think they will let Heidi go further than say next Thursday without baby making an appearance, so not long now

[mini magic]

Originally Posted by Peloton25

I don't think Chris Dawes was the original owner of #017. I suspect that David Morrison may have been, hence the reason those two cars are pictured together.

That is correct. Chris Dawes' car was never delivered to him

The car in the garage is definatley 017

[PatrickT82]

cant they do a new gathering at Goodwood FoS in 2008!!!?:-)

[hurstg01]

DRAGGING this thread back up [I couldn't think of a better place, and didn't want to create a new thread just for them], I found a couple of new pics I thought may interest some people on here

First off is either #011 pre Blue re-paint or #020 with wheels I have never seen it wear before

and also a lovely gathering at Mclaren HQ in Woking. I can see #011, #073, #075 [possibly] and one of the FINA GTR's, possibly #26R, amongst others

[Peloton25]

First shot certainly looks like #011 pre-respray wearing #073's wheels. Since the unnamed Venezuelan brothers owned that pair, it certainly makes sense.

In the second photo I am having trouble finding the FINA GTR, but it's an AWESOME shot nonetheless! Thanks!

>8^)
ER