support the Marine acused of murder

[tenguzero]

round and round we go...

[Heep]

None of us can decide whether he's guilty or not.

However, to those who are "on his side," why are you so opposed to a trial? What have you got to lose? Either he's found guilty, and is brought to justice (as you seem so intent to do with "world criminals"), or he's found innocent and has his name cleared, once and for all, rather than forever being shrouded in mystery and scandal...

[Flatrater]

Originally Posted by mellowboy

The man can barely move. I dont see how he can harm anyone? IF the marine is not found guilty, Iraqis take revenge very seriously.Just keep that in mind. If they see one of there people get shot by americans...of course they're goin to be angry reguardless on what the circumstances are.

How many fingers does it take to fire a gun, to blow up a bomb, releaae a grenade? How hard would it be to booby trap his body and he only needs to move his arm to set it off?

You can be injured and still kill people. As for being up close to this injured insurgent what if the soldier had to check every body and make sure they were dead or alive. And when he saw him moving he could of freaked out by the sudden movemnet. What was near or under the injured insurgent that the camera didn't show.

All I see is a bunch of people condeming him already without even a trial.

[carrrnuttt]

Has anyone considered how they would feel if that was a weakened American, and the shooter was Iraqi?

I mean...the insurgent can use the same type of excuses, or whatnot (i.e. "what if he had a pistol hidden?").

Will you guys be signing a petition for the Iraqi fella?

[mellowboy]

That depends on the religious beliefs.In Islam we're not suppose to kill any retreating enemies, unarmed or wounded or in there homes. Or anyone who is not the aggressors shouldn't be harmed. The elders, women and children must not be harmed.

[carrrnuttt]

Originally Posted by mellowboy

That depends on the religious beliefs.In Islam we're not suppose to kill any retreating enemies, unarmed or wounded or in there homes. Or anyone who is not the aggressors shouldn't be harmed. The elders, women and children must not be harmed.

That's nice to know but I wasn't asking you. I was asking those who are so ready to fight for the Marine, as they supposedly see his "plight", and understand his "situation", and say that the stress he's put in absolves him from a trial.

So, if the roles were reversed, will they still see his "plight", and understand his "situation", and say that the stress he's put in absolves him from a trial?

I actually agree that the Marine doesn't deserve a trial. It should be the people that put him in that situation that should be on trial, starting with the head chimp.

[Flatrater]

Originally Posted by carrrnuttt

Has anyone considered how they would feel if that was a weakened American, and the shooter was Iraqi?

I mean...the insurgent can use the same type of excuses, or whatnot (i.e. "what if he had a pistol hidden?").

Will you guys be signing a petition for the Iraqi fella?

You know the answer to your question. Are you really looking for the answer to your question or was it just a statemnet?

[Flatrater]

Originally Posted by mellowboy

That depends on the religious beliefs.In Islam we're not suppose to kill any retreating enemies, unarmed or wounded or in there homes. Or anyone who is not the aggressors shouldn't be harmed. The elders, women and children must not be harmed.

I'm not being hostile when I say this but what are the muslims religious beliefs in killing innocent lives thru beheadings and ramming airplanes into buildings?

I know and I realize not all muslims are extremists just like not all the American people in Iraq are their to kill people. Believe or not some people are there to help. But why kill the people that want to help? Why must they try to kill the UN people who had nothing to do with the US invading?

Since you know many people from that area can you tell me why not wait till the elections are over and Iraq can move on and finally start seeing the majority of US soliders leaving then fighting day in and day out? I am sure then know that they are outnumbered and outmatched to actually win.

[lazysmurff]

Originally Posted by Flatrater

I'm not being hostile when I say this but what are the muslims religious beliefs in killing innocent lives thru beheadings and ramming airplanes into buildings?

not that i know too much about islam, but im pretty sure that while one of the attackers may claim they are doing this in the ame of islam, muslims around the world were shaking their heads thinking "those crazy bastards just dont get it."

the majority of muslims would rather not be assosciated with alqueda or bin laden. islam is not a violent religion.

[mellowboy]

Originally Posted by lazysmurff

not that i know too much about islam, but im pretty sure that while one of the attackers may claim they are doing this in the ame of islam, muslims around the world were shaking their heads thinking "those crazy bastards just dont get it."

the majority of muslims would rather not be assosciated with alqueda or bin laden. islam is not a violent religion.

Co-sign


Thank you very much!

[Flatrater]

Originally Posted by lazysmurff

the majority of muslims would rather not be assosciated with alqueda or bin laden. islam is not a violent religion.

I didn't think the whole muslim population condoned these act but why do they allow non-Iraq muslims to live among the peaceful muslims and let them carry out acts of brutal violence?

Every religion has their radicals the muslim religion isn't the only one with radicals but most other religions will not allow the radicals to live among the normal people.

What really puzzles me is the death of aid workers and people trying to help in Iraq. I can understand going after soliders and contract workers for the US miltary. But why must they kill aid workers the UN aid workers and so on?

I also believe deep down the insurgents know its a lost cause fighting the US because they are outnumbered and out gunned. I also believe there are better ways of dealing with the US then getting killed.

[mellowboy]

Originally Posted by Flatrater

I didn't think the whole muslim population condoned these act but why do they allow non-Iraq muslims to live among the peaceful muslims and let them carry out acts of brutal violence?

Every religion has their radicals the muslim religion isn't the only one with radicals but most other religions will not allow the radicals to live among the normal people.

What really puzzles me is the death of aid workers and people trying to help in Iraq. I can understand going after soliders and contract workers for the US miltary. But why must they kill aid workers the UN aid workers and so on?

I also believe deep down the insurgents know its a lost cause fighting the US because they are outnumbered and out gunned. I also believe there are better ways of dealing with the US then getting killed.

Why they live peacefully amongs christians and jews of Iraq? Its how true Islam suppose to be. We suppose to be respecting "the ppl of the good book" as the qur'an stated. Many of my family and Iraqis believes those people who did all that beheadings are not Iraqis. Theres a few foreigners there but not as much as the US would claim there to be. U honestly think Iraqis would kill that Margeret Hassan lady after what shes done for them? I know for sure that the Iraqis would NEVER TOUCH HER.

[thegladhatter]

Originally Posted by mellowboy

I dont see why you're trying to make excuses for that marine. The Iraqis doesn't care what the excuses are. They're furious to see that one of there own kind been shot dead UNARMED! They'll be even more furious if that marine is found not guilty.

He he should have not been there. There is a war going on and he was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

[taranaki]

Originally Posted by thegladhatter

He he should have not been there. There is a war going on and he was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Er...he was in his own home country...if anyone should not be there,it's the Marine.

[Flatrater]

Originally Posted by taranaki

Er...he was in his own home country...if anyone should not be there,it's the Marine.

Since Iraq was defeated by the US, means the US is free to be there. Like it or not the US defeated Iraq.


I'm sure back in 1790 the Maori felt the same way about the French and British settlers invading New Zealand as the Iraq people do.