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Re: Turbo ecu

Turbo rebuilds aren't exactly rocket science, but I would say to pay someone to do it for you.
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Re: Turbo ecu

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Start searching online for turbo rebuild advice. There's a guy on Myspace and on tuners that does a great job rebuilding if that's what you need to do. I can find out his info again if you want it.
Yes that would be great ned.
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Re: Turbo ecu

wow 12psi, your fuel is running out at 7psi. Wouldn't be surprised is if the headgasket is gone or possibly even the motor. You need to do a compression check to see if there is any damage to the motor.

Does the turbo have shaft play? Look at the compressor wheel and exhaust wheel, if you see any oil then the seals in the turbo are leaking. If the turbo passes all these test then its fine.
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Re: Turbo ecu

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wow 12psi, your fuel is running out at 7psi. Wouldn't be surprised is if the headgasket is gone or possibly even the motor. You need to do a compression check to see if there is any damage to the motor.

Does the turbo have shaft play? Look at the compressor wheel and exhaust wheel, if you see any oil then the seals in the turbo are leaking. If the turbo passes all these test then its fine.
The fuel it set at 45psi. IM taking the car to the shop next monday. Sucks cause he is the only guy in town that works on imports.
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Re: Turbo ecu

You're fuel pressure may be 45psi, but when boosting you will run out of fuel. 95s were able to handle higher boost a little longer but still running it at 12psi would do some damage.

Compression tests are pretty easy, can buy them for ~$20 or rent them cheap from Autozone. Easy to do.
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Re: Turbo ecu

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You're fuel pressure may be 45psi, but when boosting you will run out of fuel. 95s were able to handle higher boost a little longer but still running it at 12psi would do some damage.

Compression tests are pretty easy, can buy them for ~$20 or rent them cheap from Autozone. Easy to do.
I just sent the turbo off to get a rebuild. The Shop that does it is only 6 hours away, so i'll get it back faster. Rather it's bad or not, I still want it rebuilt cause its been on 2 different cars. Like silver was saying about my cooler piping. I rechecked it and there is oil all in the piping. He is only charging me $425 for a high performance rebuild. Here is the site if anyone else thinking on getting one. http://www.gpopshop.com/index.html

Not sure if we welded the internal WG good, cause it looks like oil was coming from there.
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Re: Turbo ecu

Holy shit 425 for a turbo rebuild! Thats insanely high dude. The parts are only gonna cost like 75$. Honestly man it would have been a lot cheaper just to buy another turbo, t 25 turbos are a dime a dozen man.
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Holy shit 425 for a turbo rebuild! Thats insanely high dude. The parts are only gonna cost like 75$. Honestly man it would have been a lot cheaper just to buy another turbo, t 25 turbos are a dime a dozen man.
lol ya I just noticed. I found some rebuilt ones online for $500 I was going to pay $325 for just the basic build, he said it was so high cause he uses Carbon seals. Oh and it comes with 12month warrenty. Right now he is just going to check and make sure it needs one. Haven't paid him just yet. Think I'll just have him send it back.
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Re: Turbo ecu

$425 to rebuild a t25!!!
New big E16G are ~$550. I don't care what kind of seals he's putting in, you won't be anywhere close to maxing out that turbo on your setup or even come close to putting it through a high stress level.
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$425 to rebuild a t25!!!
New big E16G are ~$550. I don't care what kind of seals he's putting in, you won't be anywhere close to maxing out that turbo on your setup or even come close to putting it through a high stress level.
Ya I know. IM hitting myself. I checked online looking for other prices and alot are around the same price. or maybe 100 cheaper. It's to the point IM tired of tryin to get this right. Got to get it on the road. Need it to get to work. Other than turbo bad and headgasket, its ready to go. Just waiting on these to get finished.
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Re: Turbo ecu

Have you dont a compression test on the motor yet? Right now your just throwing new parts at the car and have no idea whats wrong with it. The turbo may not have even been bad and yet you were gonna shell out over 400 to have it rebuilt. The oil in the pipe may have come from when you had it hooked up wrong. You should clean all that out and see if it still is leaking oil past the seals.

Do a compression test on the motor and then get back to us
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Re: Turbo ecu

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Have you dont a compression test on the motor yet? Right now your just throwing new parts at the car and have no idea whats wrong with it. The turbo may not have even been bad and yet you were gonna shell out over 400 to have it rebuilt. The oil in the pipe may have come from when you had it hooked up wrong. You should clean all that out and see if it still is leaking oil past the seals.

Do a compression test on the motor and then get back to us
No I cleaned the cooler pipes out after I saw the oil. After a day of driving there was oil back in it. Ya I had a compression test done and headgasket is ok(Thank God)! The punk that sold me the turbo new it was ******. Pisses me off when u think people are ur friends, but when it comes to money these days some will do anything. Sad he would do that to a friend for just $30 bucks, and people u meet online you have never met help you all they can like u guys, which is so appreciated! I'll get this sorted out one day. IM sorry for all the hectic posts. Sorry guys. I should of just bought the whole kit and had a pro do it. Just wanted to do it and learn more about this stuff. I grew up working on cars just nothing turbo. Wanted to take that next step.
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Re: Turbo ecu

Here is a vid of the smoking after turbo rebuild.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xD0wqKsJ_Ss

So what is doing it?

This is whats in my tailpipe. Don't think compresson test was done right or something. Cause it still looked like signs of headgasket.

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Re: Turbo ecu

Wow that's a lot.

It's kind of hard to screw up a compression test. Pretty simple. What were the numbers again?
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Re: Turbo ecu

Holy shit man thats a lot of smoke. You deffinately messed something up. What were the compression numbers numbers? Your suppose to do the test hot with the throttle floored. You can do the test cold and will still figure out if something is wrong. Looks like a HG to me also right now but a compression test should tell. Are you loosing any coolant?
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