Spe-V vs WRX

[nismo_pilot]

lol im just going to come out and say it, youre retarded, fully bolting a v6 that puts out 225 to the wheels stock will only get you 25 more horsepower? a header and intake will get that on the 4 cylinder qr25, swap 350z cams and pistons, port and polish the head, and use the 350z track edition ecu youve got yourself the 350 motor basicly, that should put out around 315 unless im missing something, the maxima bellhousing WILL fit, travis sure as hell got it to, the maxima engine itself is around 1800 and the only thing you really need ot fab are some mount adapters, you dont even need new mounts. as far as the chassis comment, the vq35 altima shares the same chassis as the qr25 powered altima, how did they get that v6 in there big guy? guess they did the mounting a little different, which is exactly what a set of mount adapters will get you from travis for around 200 bucks. An sr20 swap probably runs around the same amount as the v6 swap and thats if you do the sr20 swap the right way, people swap DETs all day, no one tells them its too much money? I think youve still got beef about that pulley dispute and you just feel the need to argue with me about everything i say, think about it, whens the last time youve heard a sentra bark 4th gear? i havent even heard a turbo spec do that, power numbers dont always matter, the range of the v6 powerand is much greater than a turbo powerband and therefore launches better and does better at the track, both turbo manifolds will fit in the engine bay with the v6 swap and there is room enough for a turbo up front, boosted projections are estimated 400whp on pump gas, you have 2 more cylinders to make power in in a v6 motor, which is basicly your argument why the wrx beats a spec, because it makes more power due to forced induction, anyone who recommends F/I power over an equal amount of N/A power is just plain stupid, N/A is MUCH more reliable than any F/I power you can make, which saves money in the long run. And i had a friend who ran a 150 shot in his maxima for 2 years without incident, those motors can handle a lot

[nismo_pilot]

and the stage three PTI kit is 4800......thats 300 more than the v6 swap......

[nismo_pilot]

heres the link to travis' thread on the b15forums, let me know if you realize that your the only person alive that thinks the v6 swap is too much money and not as good as a turbo

http://www.b15sentra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=120769

[nismo_pilot]

you have just been pwned by the nismo pilot

[daveshapellSVT]

i read the "travis" thread already. and he had to swap the maxima bellhousing with the sentra bellhousing. and he even stated it was a pain in the ass. secondly that turbo kit only costs 3500 bucks i know cause i went to the site. anyone that pays 4800 bucks for a entry level turbo kit is just uneducated on turbo kits. have you even thought of putting a turbo kit together yourself? it would be even cheaper then one you would buy. Anyhow i'm not saying the QR25 is a better engine. it's a known fact the 3.5 is better. thats not my point. my point is a turbo'd qr25 makes more power then a 3.5 with bolt ons. and if you argue that someone should stomp on your face. And if you think a fully bolted 350z 3.5 makes 318 at the wheels your wrong. do some damn research newbie.http://www.nissanperformancemag.com/...jectaltima.php.. this 3.5 in an altima only makes 260 whp after cams, full exhaust, and a tune. your not gonna pull another 58 whp out of it. i don't care what you say, cause your just another poser fag, a turbo kit is better then swaping the engine. your not gonna rebuild that 3.5 and boost it and you know it so save yourself the hassle, buy a turbo kit and go blow your engine up cause your just another poser that will set the boost at 3 bar. heres a fully bolted 350Z and it makes 258 whp. theres absolutley no way your gonna make 318whp on a 350z without forced induction.http://www.nissanperformancemag.com/july03/350cams/

and what pulley insident are you talking about?

[nismo_pilot]

DYNO #’s were 234@5psi, 251@6psi, 265@7psi (internally gated)

SPEC-V STAGE II

- SAFC II
of the external wastegate.
- oil feed and return lines and all flanges and bolts
- Greddy or nissport oil adapter (pre tapped for 1/8” NPT)
- water feed and return lines, clamps, and adapters for upper and lower rad hose (*for gt2871r upgrade only)
- Coated 2.5” J-tube, gaskets and bolts
- 2.5 or 3” mid pipe w/ flex tube
- Coated Protech hi-velocity manifold
- Garrett intercooler (385HP)
- All aluminum intercooler piping w/BOV flange
*(choice of red or black crinkle finish)
- All silicone couplers and T-bolt clamps
*(choice of black, red or blue couplers)
- Bosch BOV with recirculation hose
- 3” aluminum turbo inlet pipe w/hose adapters, MAF adapter and hardware
- 3" hi-flow air filter
- hi-flow fuel filter
- 446cc injectors (flow balanced)
- Injector harness w/heat shrink and solder
- inline fuel gauge with fitting
- an fitting and swivel for fuel return line
- certified fuel line clamps
- Bosch 1 to 1 ratio Fuel pres regulator
- COMPLETE drop in fuel tank canister with Walbro 255lph pump
*(drop in and no mods necessary)
-Autometer Boost gauge and mounting cup
- Full instructions and full color pictures

stage 2 KIT SALE PRICE is $4095 US + $150 shipping


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- Upgrade to GT2871R turbo for $595! Includes welding of the turbine, coating, water feed line adapters, banjo fittings, and the conversion

what the customer needs to do:
- modify stock fuel rail for return system (parts included) (welding required)
- DUE TO LEGAL MATTERS” 100psi and 50psi return fuel lines must be purchased by the customer
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STAGE III ADD $795 to the $4095 + $150 shipping and you will have the full out kit which will have full 3” cat back system (choice of Magnaflow muffler) with test pipe, Autometer EGT and Oil pressure and 3 gauge pillar pod color matched

[nismo_pilot]

let me know where you see 3500 in there.....copy and paste from the spec v turbo kit page form powertech imports

[daveshapellSVT]

Do you post on the V-board?" they have a thread that lists all the turbo kits made for spec v's. i visisted a bunch of there sites and they run 3500 on average. obviously higher stage levels are gonna run you more.
http://forums.thevboard.com/viewtopic.php?t=33471

didn't see a price on the stage one kit, but on the V-board in the list i posted above theres these numbers:
Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 8:23 am Post subject: **Official turbo list for the QR**

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I was doing some research on turbo kits, and I thought this might be helpful for others as well. Maybe become a sticky??

I apologize for any info that are incorrect or missing. Please feel free to pm me if you have any updates or any info that I have missed. Also, sorry for not asking any of you for permission to put your cars on here. If you want me to take you off this thread, please feel free to pm me. Also, if you are not on this thread, and would like to be, pm me too.



Forced Induction Racing
www.fi-r.com

pics:
Dions’s car aka chillboy



Mike's auto se-r


Norlandt's car


videos:
http://gallery.thevboard.com/users/T...pecvdyno1.mpeg
http://www.fi-r.com/images/Dionscarpreview.WMV
http://www.fi-r.com/images/Dionscardriving1.WMV
http://www.fi-r.com/images/Dionscardriving2.WMV
http://gallery.thevboard.com/users/T...rid%20dyno.WMV
http://gallery.thevboard.com/users/S.../Norlandt1.wmv

dyno charts:
Norlandt’s car aka cubanprince1


Mike’c car aka mcw75


cost:
Standard - $3595
Standard w/ Internals - $7825
Starter (shipped) - $2395
Entry Level (shipped) - $2995

parts:
Standar Kit:
Precision Turbo/Garrett T3/T04B Hybrid
Tial 38mm wastegate(preset at 6.5psi, can be raised to 8psi safely)
Spearco Front mount intercooler
38lb MSD injectors (flow balanced)
Injector clips
HKS Standard blow off valve
Mandrel bent TIG welded and bead rolled Intercooler piping kit
3" inlet pipe with hose barbs for BOV recirculation and crankcase vent
TIG welded Turbo manifold
2.5" downpipe with flex section
Dump tube from wastegate (recirculated into the downpipe)
Apexi Super AFC
Fuel pressure regulator
Fuel return line and fittings
Fuel pump modification instructions and parts
Fuel pressure guage (for under hood)
Autometer boost guage
Guage mounting pods
Silicone hose connectors (for intercooler piping)
Gaskets for turbo/manifold
Cone air filter
Clamps for intercooler piping
Install instructions
Oil feed/drain lines

Stater kit:
T3/T04B turbo with ported exhaust housing
FI-R turbo manifold
FI-R 2.5" alluminized downpipe (TIG welded with flex section)
2.5" ALLUMINUM mandrel bent intercooler piping kit
3" ALLUMINUM inlet pipe with bungs for BOV recirculation and crank vent
Gaskets for turbo and oil drain
T3 oil drain flange
Oil feed and drain lines
All fittings needed (including BSPT to NPT adaptor for oil sending unit)
38mm external wastegate with 4.5-5psi spring
Polished cone air filter
Silicone hose connectors and reducers
High-TQ clamps for piping
Spearco bar and plate intercooler

Entry Level Kit:
T3/T04B turbo with ported exhaust housing
FI-R turbo manifold
FI-R 2.5" alluminized downpipe (TIG welded with flex section)
2.5" ALLUMINUM mandrel bent intercooler piping kit
3" ALLUMINUM inlet pipe with bungs for BOV recirculation and crank vent
Gaskets for turbo and oil drain
T3 oil drain flange
Oil feed and drain lines
All fittings needed (including BSPT to NPT adaptor for oil sending unit)
38mm external wastegate with 4.5-5psi spring
Polished cone air filter
Silicone hose connectors and reducers
High-TQ clamps for piping and fuel lines
Goodyear fuel injection hose and return line
Fittings and clamps for fuel lines
Fuel pressure guage for under hood
Apexi SAFC II
PTI Fuel pressure regulator
Spearco bar and plate intercooler
Bosch recirculation valve (Blow off valve)
Recirculation valve hose and clamps


options:
Piston and rod combo (4mm longer rods and higher wrist pin)- 1550.00
Camshafts - 595.00
Engine sleeving - 1295.00
Head and main stud kit- 395.00
Valvesprings- 295.00



Power Tech Imports turbo kit
www.powertechimports.com

pics:
Kav’s car


video:
http://gallery.thevboard.com/users/KAV/PTI/100_0036.AVI

dyno chart:


cost
Stage 1 - $3395
Stage 2 - $3895
Stage 3 - $4790

[nismo_pilot]

stage three kit makes around 300whp as stated by the b15 member who went 13.3 in the quarter, slicks were projected to put him mid 12's, stock v6 swap put travis at 12.9, bang for buck and reliability would go to the NA motor......

[daveshapellSVT]

perhaps it is cheaper to swap the motor as well as more reliable, but your not gonna go as fast as a turbo'd spec can. and you can argue that till your blue in the face but it's just not gonna happen.

[nismo_pilot]

dont have to argue it, there are already quarter numbers that speak for themselves 12.9 is about as fast as youd go with a turbo anyways, spend the 4-500 in difference on some bolt ons for the v6 and you'll go even faster

[slideways...]

wow dave
your a retard if you think the qr has even close to the potential of the vq. seriously. try to make 400 whp with a QR25 turbo. then watch your pistons fly through the valve cover and the rods shoot through the oil pan.

[nismo_pilot]

thanks slideways, i was wondering if anyone was going to jump in, sometimes it feels so lonely in here being the only one who has a clue.......

[daveshapellSVT]

thats the thing you really don't have a clue. i never said the QR25 was better. anyways go ahead and do what you want. just seems a little retarded to have a fairly new car and rip the motor out. good luck with your dream

[nismo_pilot]

hahahaha v6 swap for teh win!!!!!!!!