support the Marine acused of murder

[codycool]

Originally Posted by mellowboy

And like i give a shit? Iraq is my backround...u can expect my anger towards this whole war. I dont have to agree with that idiot cody cool or whatever.

Wow, another insult! Thats 2. But since your beliefs are right along with Taranaki's you will not be given a timeout. Its funny how Taranaki feels that most conservatives are narrow minded yet he cant even be fair on a simple forum?

[Heep]

Originally Posted by codycool

But since your beliefs are right along with Taranaki's you will not be given a timeout.

There are more moderators than taranaki, including people supporting your side.

[mellowboy]

Originally Posted by codycool

Wow, another insult! Thats 2. But since your beliefs are right along with Taranaki's you will not be given a timeout. Its funny how Taranaki feels that most conservatives are narrow minded yet he cant even be fair on a simple forum?

Um did you get my pm? Or you chose not to accept my apology?

[Neutrino]

Originally Posted by codycool

There you go, use the examples of 15 POS reservist soldiers to blast the entire U.S. military. I am in total aggreement with you on how these soldiers acted. They sleep in barracks and get 3 hot meals a day and all they have to do is babysit some Iraqi POW's. But for some reason they thinks its justified to abuse their power. But these marines are not those soldiers. You say Iraq is your background, well ask the people of Ad Diwaniah* how the marines treated them. They loved us, they hated it when the Spanish took over after we left. We would constantly get letters from them telling us how much they preferred our presence.

Like I said, if you havent been in combat then you have no idea what its like to decide in a split second to shoot or not. I dont know what i would have done in that situation?

I agree with you, I'm sure most american soldiers have treated the iraqis very well, however you'll alway have the odd idiot here and there like in any army.

Now we simply don't know enough info to really make a judgement here. This marine might be one of those hateful idiots or he really might be inoccent. Its really had to make a proper judgement from a few seconds of footage. So the final decision should be up to the military court.

[mellowboy]

Originally Posted by codycool

There you go, use the examples of 15 POS reservist soldiers to blast the entire U.S. military. I am in total aggreement with you on how these soldiers acted. They sleep in barracks and get 3 hot meals a day and all they have to do is babysit some Iraqi POW's. But for some reason they thinks its justified to abuse their power. But these marines are not those soldiers. You say Iraq is your background, well ask the people of Ad Diwaniah* how the marines treated them. They loved us, they hated it when the Spanish took over after we left. We would constantly get letters from them telling us how much they preferred our presence.

Like I said, if you havent been in combat then you have no idea what its like to decide in a split second to shoot or not. I dont know what i would have done in that situation?

I have family and friends that lives in Iraq. They tell me whats goin on. I have customers that just came from Iraq who are Assyrians...they tell me whats goin on. I believe in my ppl's words than any of american soldiers. I dont have to be in combat to know whats goin on there. Iraqis show very good hospitality to anyone! Even to their enemies...but they're still enemies and they will not hesitate to kill them if they dont leave.

[Flatrater]

Originally Posted by Heep

There are more moderators than taranaki, including people supporting your side.

I agree I am usually on the opposite side of Taranaki. I have no problem banning anyone from either side of the argument. In the end it comes down to enforcing the AF rules and not on what side of the fence you sit on.

Any naming calling by either side will be dealt with the same way with me. I can care less if you agree or disagree with my opnions. I will not tolerate anyone verbally abusing a poster here. We can debate the subject with name calling. In the end nothing will change you will still have your opnions and I will have mine but we need to keep it civil.

[Flatrater]

And I almost forgot Cody no need in the last post you made.

I will start with 3 day bans for anyone that starts the pissing match.

[codycool]

Originally Posted by mellowboy

I have family and friends that lives in Iraq. They tell me whats goin on. I have customers that just came from Iraq who are Assyrians...they tell me whats goin on. I believe in my ppl's words than any of american soldiers. I dont have to be in combat to know whats goin on there. Iraqis show very good hospitality to anyone! Even to their enemies...but they're still enemies and they will not hesitate to kill them if they dont leave.

Yes i got your apology, and it is accepted. So did you actually live in Iraq, or does your family just live there? Have you been to Iraq? Have you heard of Ad Diwania? Im seriously just curious. Yes, i see how Iraqi's treat their enemies. I also see the heads of innocent sivilians being cut off on tv. I saw what the sunnis have done to the kurds and the shiites, and it wasnt very pleasent. Please forgive my ignorance, but did you mean syrians from syria?

[thegladhatter]

Originally Posted by mellowboy

I believe in my ppl's words than any of american soldiers. I dont have to be in combat to know whats goin on there. Iraqis show very good hospitality to anyone! Even to their enemies...but they're still enemies and they will not hesitate to kill them if they dont leave.

No bias here is there?

If you are in an adrenaline pumping war situation like the Marine was in THEN you can think more clearly while passing judgement.

[T4 Primera]

Gladhatter,

If you're going to quote him, why leave out the part where he makes his point? Or don't you consider the leading sentences below are relevant

Originally Posted by mellowboy

I have family and friends that lives in Iraq. They tell me whats goin on. I have customers that just came from Iraq who are Assyrians...they tell me whats goin on. I believe in my ppl's words than any of american soldiers. I dont have to be in combat to know whats goin on there. Iraqis show very good hospitality to anyone! Even to their enemies...but they're still enemies and they will not hesitate to kill them if they dont leave.

[mellowboy]

Originally Posted by codycool

Yes i got your apology, and it is accepted. So did you actually live in Iraq, or does your family just live there? Have you been to Iraq? Have you heard of Ad Diwania? Im seriously just curious. Yes, i see how Iraqi's treat their enemies. I also see the heads of innocent sivilians being cut off on tv. I saw what the sunnis have done to the kurds and the shiites, and it wasnt very pleasent. Please forgive my ignorance, but did you mean syrians from syria?

Assyrians not syrians They're the christian iraqis along with chaldean christians. Which i'm half chaldean from my mother and my father is a sunni muslim. Those innocent civilians who got beheaded where probably not iraqi IMO. My whole family believes they're foreigners. I think i know what area you're talkin about. I'm not too sure. Everything is all good though

[mellowboy]

Originally Posted by thegladhatter

No bias here is there?

If you are in an adrenaline pumping war situation like the Marine was in THEN you can think more clearly while passing judgement.

I dont see why you're trying to make excuses for that marine. The Iraqis doesn't care what the excuses are. They're furious to see that one of there own kind been shot dead UNARMED! They'll be even more furious if that marine is found not guilty.

[Flatrater]

Originally Posted by mellowboy

They'll be even more furious if that marine is found not guilty.

So you are saying no matter what the marine needs to be found guilty to please a group of people. Justice is blind to that if he is found not guilty or guilty will depend on the facts. There may never be a trial if the evidence doesn't support a trial.

Sitting at my desk typing out what I would of done is easy. I would of done the right thing. You can conclude what the right thing is on your own. But its not that easy when you are a solider in a hostile country getting shot at and having to worry about dieing walking around. Would I of done things differently I don't know, I can't relate to it since I have never been under that type of stress. But I can tell you I would do everything under my power to survive and live.

[mellowboy]

The man can barely move. I dont see how he can harm anyone? IF the marine is not found guilty, Iraqis take revenge very seriously.Just keep that in mind. If they see one of there people get shot by americans...of course they're goin to be angry reguardless on what the circumstances are.

[lazysmurff]

round and round we go...