david-b's 95 Eagle Talon ESi-T Motor Build

[SilvrEclipse]

More details, where did it blow at and what were you doing? I hope you didn't damage the head at all.

[Blackcrow64]

Originally Posted by SilvrEclipse

More details, where did it blow at and what were you doing? I hope you didn't damage the head at all.

lawl...


My minds in the gutter tonight...

[vanilla gorilla]

Originally Posted by Blackcrow64

lawl...


My minds in the gutter tonight...

Wow, I didnt even read that much into it. Haha, after I read it again, I LOL'd.

But man, that sucks about the motor, woulda sucked worse if you didnt have a new one sitting in your garage.....um, kitchen. But yea, rip that old one apart so we can peep the carnage

[SilvrEclipse]

I betting you cracked the ringlands, it happens to every boosted 420a on the stock bottom end eventually.

[david-b]

RIP 420a @ 127,000 miles

I was doing some work on her yesterday morning, did some waxing, and getting MSnS wired up more (is about done too) and fixing some vacumm leaks I had that were causing bad idle surge and took her for a test drive to make sure it was all back together good. Car was running great. Was pulling super hard so I kept pushing her a little more and more. Coming off an on-ramp back onto the expressway I punch it in 2nd and the car just sat there.

So while driving I kept her in 4th gear and was watching the laptop to see what was going on. I needed to get over lanes so I did with some power and then it started running bad. I got off close to home and on the exit ramp I popped it out of gear and it came close to dying. I turned on the street and there's a consistant knocking sound, like something hitting something. I took a side street blowing through all the stop signs. The knocking got louder. Sounds like something solid, and it raises with rpms. Doesn't sound like anything knocking around in the chamber or anything. The thing was dying when I had to stop and taking some time to crank back up.

I barely made it home and opened the hood. Seemed extremely hot under the hood for some reason, although IAT temps were at ~91*. Was a cool day. I revved it and sure enough you can hear the knocking from in the block. Look under the car and oil is leaking out. I can't see where since it's dripping on the cross-member and dripping off that then. And my lifts are at my parents. I'm thinking I spun a main bearing and it's the crank wobbling.


So I got impatient and started pulling it apart yesterday, no more than 7 hours after it blew. Was planning on having the head off today, but looks like I'll be getting drunk at a BBQ instead. But pulled the VC off and the cams and springs all look good. I really hope all the valves are good. Then I'll pull the head apart, get it all cleaned up and washed and it's going on the new block.


And yes that's part of the compression tester stuck in #3

[steviek]

damn dude whats been going on lately everyones cars dude

[david-b]

Hoping to have head pulled before Friday and cleaned up. Then I can get it on the block, and get all my timing done and set on the new motor. Basically will ge ready to just drop in. Found a place that rents hoists too so don't have to buy one anymore.

Part for my Grand Am is coming in the next couple days so will be working on that days not working on the Talon.

[Blackcrow64]

Fail Dave... You should have made something awesome from scratch just to show the world what DSMers are capable of.

[david-b]

Upper end is looking really good so far. Still nice and clean, cams were properly lubricated throughout their life so far, and looks like everything else is in good shape. All valves are still in their slots.

Hoping to have head off in next couple days, maybe even tomorrow. Just have to drain all the fluids and disconnect all the oil, coolant and fuel lines. Was doing this in the dark last night so didn't feel like playing with that then.

[david-b]

Got the head pulled this morning in about 2 hours. Not bad at all. The head is in PERFECT shape. No damage to the valves at all, and no damage to the pistons neither, so whatever it is in definitely at the crank. All good since I'm not using it anyways.

As parts are coming off, I'll be painting everything. Also replacing everything with SS line. Here's all the pics for the day.

Pulled everything off altogether. Ya, it's heavy with one person.


Valves all seated properly


Head gasket was slightly blown. Top right corner was destroyed and oil leaking between cylinders.






No damage to cylinders from what I can see. No scorching or burns


I liked this pic


Old turbo and new one. First time I've got them side by side for comparison.

[SilvrEclipse]

Looks good man, when is the motor coming out of the car?? Im interested to see whats wrong with it.

[vanilla gorilla]

Good job gettin her torn down, I hate that kind of thing.

[david-b]

Everything's been coming off pretty good so I've had no problems. Just trying to cheat the system and get as much as asap (like the head with everything still on it), but sometimes you just can't do that. Because of that, I was literally soaked in fuel yesterday when pulling shit off. Glad I don't smoke.

I stole a buddies car so will be taking all my parts and getting them pressure washed and clean up and putting on the block. Already have a couple things swapped over. So far all on the block all nuts and bolts are new and plan on continuing that. Thing should look sparkling when done.

On side note, Grand Am is getting the right part shipped out today so hopefully that'll be running this week (been saying that for a while now)

[david-b]

[steviek]

lol i love the ktichen builds... and budweiser