beat a Prelude

[91HBSi]

Originally posted by 327belair
anyone remember the ole vettenet? well it got closed down years ago cuz assholes like u guys were flaming people. chill out before u get yourselves banned or even worse get parts of this site shut down, keep your comments appropriate, please. its hard to tell what someone means when they say something because u cant see their tone of voice or anything, so just keep that in mind, most people arent trying to be meantwhen they express their opinion.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again...
That's what smileys are for

[BoosterSH]

Originally posted by 327belair
i dont mean to beat on hondas, they are great cars, they are cheap, economical, get good gas milage, and can be quick. but they are NOT performance cars, and i just have trouble getting used to people thinking they are. (yes, i am aware that there are fast ones, but they are few and far between)

Your telling me that the S2000 is not a performance car? I dont know bout you all, but i dont know many cars that redline at 9000RPM and put out 240HP out of a 2.0L 4cylinder engine.:right:

[327belair]

ok, ill give u that, the s2000 is definitly a performance car, but i was referring more to civics and preludes

[NSX-R-SSJ20K]

preludes have 220hp out of a 2.2litre VTEC engine isn't that good enough? its more than a V6 stang

[supafly1024]

Originally posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K
preludes have 220hp out of a 2.2litre VTEC engine isn't that good enough? its more than a V6 stang

100 HP per litre, that sounds pretty good to me, of course that is the JDM Spec. version though. Name an American car that has 100 HP per litre from the factory.

[NSX-R-SSJ20K]

Civic Si and the 2002 prelude

[supafly1024]

Originally posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K
Civic Si and the 2002 prelude

Neither of those are American made.

[NSX-R-SSJ20K]

funny isn't it o and the TVR Cerbera 4.5 is the only pushrod V8 that comes close to 100hp per liter at 420hp its pretty close

It's English .......I thought the US was supposed to have the best V8's?

[carrrnuttt]

This is why...

Originally posted by carrrnuttt
Everytime I've ever posted a street-racing story, I always include all pertinent, even technical information...when I shifted, what RPM's I went up to, what the car looked like in my rearview , etc., etc...instead of just saying: "I spanked a mustang!".

In the current mindset of things, small motors are the underdog, which forces an explanation of anything outside of the "ordinary" (i.e., beating a V8). Just like Columbus trying to explain why the world wasn't flat...

...too bad I don't have the Queen of Spain to back me up.

[NSX-R-SSJ20K]

lol thats a good piece

[Rice-Rocketeer]

Originally posted by supafly1024
Neither of those are American made.

Technically they are. Honda of America has plants in Ohio and Canada of other places.

"Designed in America" would be what your thinkin.

[NSX-R-SSJ20K]

no they're not the engines came from Japan ? ? ? well if you drop an engine in it may come from japan


look do i really know ? ? ?

[Rice-Rocketeer]

No, there are JDM spec engines and there are USDM spec engines each designed with the specific systems mandated by the particular laws of that country. You really think they make the cars here but make the engines over there?

[Self]

100 hp per liter...WHO CARES!? When we both go to the track, and I'm putting down 400 rwhp with a 5.7 liter engine, and you're putting down 220 with a 2.2 liter engine, do you know what's going to happen? I'm going to win. And do you know why? Because I have more horsepower. 220 from 2.2 liters is still less than 400 hp from HOWEVER many liters. A V8 is not an efficient engine! Learn that fact, and don't ever forget it! Once you do that, you're on your way to understanding the american philosophy of bigger is better. Besides if we wanted an efficient car, we'd all drive Honda's. It's total horsepower/torque that matters, not hp per liter. That's a nice little fact you can brag about, but when it's all said and done, it's merely an excuse you can use after the race is over and you just ran a 15.0 with 100 hp per liter, while I'm running a 13.5 with about 60 hp per liter.

[carrrnuttt]

If it's total HP/TQ that matters, why don't I see Mack Diesels (just the actual tractor, of course) with about 500hp, and 1000+ LB-FT of TQ running the quarter and kicking everybody's arse?

I repeat, POWER-TO-WEIGHT is primary, TRACTION second, and GEARING third...although the TRACTION part is primary among pro dragsters due to the ungodly amounts of power they already have...

...wanna take a bet and we'll e-mail some NHRA crew chiefs?

I'll run any 88HP Geo Metro against that Mack any day.