Intermittent wiper problem

[Tom01Rodeo]

Originally Posted by LGStrobel

My wipers are resting nicely in their "down" position for the first time in about 3 years. It worked - thanks to everyone for their help in getting me through my first electrical automotive fix since installing an Alpine stereo and speakers in my old Malibu.

If you're reading this thread and thinking "maybe I should just drop the $233 and buy the whole thing from Honda/Isuzu", don't do it. I spent $11 on a desoldering iron and got some free relays from a guy that had leftovers and I'm a novice with electrical experience from 4-H about 20 years ago.

Did you use all your relays? If not I'd pay ya for one.

Tom.

[C-Lawd]

Another satisfied customer! Thanks to all for the AWESOME information!

[busajeff]

Thanks for all of the info, just swapped out my relays and reinstalled. FYI I got my relays from mouser from this link: http://www.mouser.com/search/Product...551-EQ1-31000S

they were in stock (assumung you want less than 5000 of them.) I ordered [email protected] ea and shipping was around $5 regardless of whether you order 1 or 10. Shipping was quick, and they fit like a glove. A note though, they are louder than factory. I found a solution that quieted them up: I cut several strips of Dynamat (essentially self adhesive tar paper for sound deadening purposes, especially prevalent in car audio). you only need a few square inches of the stuff, and it is typically sold by the square foot, so I went to my local car stereo shop and they were happy to give me a scrap that was laying around. after sticking some onto the relays themselves I lined the plastic box with it too, and the clicking is now unnoticeable.

[busajeff]

My front wipers work on the intermittant setting and park themselves for the first time since I owned my '00 Rodeo, but my rear wiper is still unresponsive. I took my box back out and resoldered a spare relay into each position only to have the same result....Any thoughts on where to go next?

[Gizmo42]

Could be a bad fuse, bad motor, or broken wire (most likely where it goes into the tail gate) or bad switch.

You will have to start tracing power and ground through the circuit and see where you lose it. Not a fun task but not too bad.

Glad at least part of it worked out for you though.

[PAB_Az]

ere is my contribution about this problem:

I bought a used Rodeo Isuzu 2002 last year (2006). After one year, Appears the same wiper problem as above mentioned: front wiper do not park in correct position, intermittent not working, has to manually park the wiper by switching them off at the right place. Not life threatening but boring

Bringing the car to the mechanics he suggested to replace the wiper switch (come altogether with light switch) which cost $200 for the piece plus labor. I can not afford that and, even if I am far from a mechanics, was pretty sure it has nothing to do with that simple switch. I so decide to review several forum and though at first it was the park switch (or position indicator) next to the wiper motor that was faulty. I was about to open it when I found this thread. I did what you guys recommend and fix the problem for less than $10. Thanks a lot.

However, I found some parts tricky so want to emphasize the thread:

* Alarm box location: remove the glove box by unscrewing the two screws by the glove box hinge. The box is then on the far right side (left steering wheel model) and is about 5 x4x1 inches in size. You don't see the electronic board but the plastic box. It is written alarm on it as well as ABS but ABS just refers to the thermoplastic material (acrylonitril butadiene styrene) and NOT anti-lock braking system! The box is a little bit tricky to pull out (and even more trick to put back in place) since it is hang by a single screw and a hook.

* Solder: the original solder used for connecting the relays melts at higher temperature than usual commercial solder. You need to have a soldering iron that can reach that temperature. Most irons with adjustable temperature can, most fixed temperature irons can not.

* Mouser doesn't sell the original relay by piece; you have to buy 80 of those. Even at $3.60 a piece it is kind of expensive to buy 80 of them (December 2007). So I bought the other relays recommended in this forum: 551-EQ1-31000S which is a little bit noisier (who care) but can be purchased by piece at even a lower price: $1.68. I bought 3 of those to replace all the board relays. Unfortunately the central leg of those relays is larger than the original one and need to be put in place by forcing. Be careful to not brake that leg (I personally bend one but it is still working). Be firm but gentle.

*Putting the alarm box back in place is a nightmare. I spend nearly 20 minutes trying and didn't succeed to put the hook correctly in place. If anyone has some trick please let say it. However, it hold with the screw and don't vibrate.

Last word: I am extremely happy to have fixed that problem myself and am very grateful to this forum and contributors. Thanks a lot. No my wife believes I am a mechanics

Sincerely,

[wreck05]

It worked for me as well! I have to agree with the above post that it is difficult to both remove and replace the module. I did not replace it back in the same spot in case I ever have to do it again!

[monkeymantn]

I think that Greenwich Electronics sells individual direct replacement relays (part # AR7-012-CQ6S). They have a direct replacement catalog that lists the original Fujitsu relay as the part mentioned here. The replacement is a quiet relay and should not loud click like the NEC many people substitute the Fujitsu with. I'm going to place an order through them and post how they perform/fit.

Here's the replacement guide:
http://www.geirelays.com/acrobat/crossref.pdf

[miro73]

I have problem. My rear wiper works all time when I turn my key. I replaced both dash switches, relays and .... no changes-still works. Whats wrong?

[Rodeo Rob]

Does anyone have any relays left they want to part with? Attempts with Mouser and Fujitsu quotes only offer 80 at a time. Must the border thing or something (Canada). Would prefer the one that fits without too much greif. I am capable, but Murphy follows me everywhere I go.

[skippertoo]

Originally Posted by monkeymantn

I think that Greenwich Electronics sells individual direct replacement relays (part # AR7-012-CQ6S). They have a direct replacement catalog that lists the original Fujitsu relay as the part mentioned here. The replacement is a quiet relay and should not loud click like the NEC many people substitute the Fujitsu with. I'm going to place an order through them and post how they perform/fit.

Here's the replacement guide:
http://www.geirelays.com/acrobat/crossref.pdf

Hello monkeymantn,
Have you received your Greenwich relays yet and if so are you pleased ?
Thanks to ALL that have posted on this subject as I am very glad to have found this forum. My wipers have not worked for over a year (intermittent and rear).

Skip

[rodeo95]

I have a 1995 Rodeo and i took out the glove box, but didnt see the boxes that were described. does anyone know where the alarm module is in a 1995?

[amigo-2k]

This message is about +98 Rodeo's.

[Jules666]

Relays are available from RS, (Allied Electronics in USA).
RS part no: 627-9151 (Australia), 399-8225 (UK), 821-1038 (USA) cost in Australia is $4.40 inclusive of GST. RS have no minimum order. The relay is OMRON G5LE-1 DC12, and is direct replacement for original (fits without modification & works perfectly). The G5LE-14 DC12 is a fully sealed version and can also be used

Also, glovebox doesn't need to be removed - just squeeze the sides until the stop lugs release from their grooves. The box then drops open fully for easy access to the alarm relay unit.

I wish I'd discovered this thread 3 years ago!

Jules

[Gizmo42]

Thanks for the info. Always good to find more options for replacement. I'm going to post that info in the planetisuzoo write up that I did as well.

As for the glove box, I do it the same way. I just say to remove it cuz its easier then explaining it lol.