How can anyone buy a KIA???

[Gilhuly]

My mom has a Kia Sephia w/ 155k and it runs like a top. I can't get her to sell it. Don't be a close-minded Shoob

[kaoru-tochiro]

This thread is hatefull

[2strokebloke]

Originally posted by Hudson

And that you "probably never will" like Kias seems a little closed. There were times that Toyotas and Hondas and Nissans (then Datsuns) were the butt of everyone's jokes. Kia cars are not Yugos...this is a modern company with products designed in the last quarter century (Yugo products date back to the 1960s). Kia's early US-market products were of questionable quality, but they have improved. Someone could make the argument that Kia (and Hyundai) has made quicker strides in engineering and quality than the Big 3 Japanese brands did in their early years in the US.

Whoa there buddy, some of Zastava's products may have dated back to the 1960's, but the Yugo as we got it dated back to 1981! And they were not bad buys, in fact according to the NHTSA reliability guides the Yugo scores higher than most cars (in the top 3% for reliability!)
Every Japanese manufacturer was a dud when they came out, My Subaru 360 is living proof of that (though I like it) Honda's N600 wasn't high on most people wants lists either, and few people wanted to plunk down money for a Toyopet or a Datsun bluebird either.

[jmsmathis]

so you guys think kia's stink huh.all the people that are disrespecting kia's,have you ever owned one before???probabily not.kias are just like all other cars, there are great ones and then there are lemons,i had 2 friends awhile ago that both bouight brande new chev cavealers the z-24 and they were both lemons.i have had my sephia for 3 years and i have has little to almost no problems with it.so if we are talking quality i am a kia lover,i wouldnt give up my kia for a honda for anything.why dont you guys check out my links in my sig to take a look at my baby..

[WU6]

I got a link to this thread and have gone over a few replies. There are alot of automotive bigots in here! A bunch of stupid folks also!

I've seen FWD import owners {Honda ect.} bashing Kia. Guess what? Your front wheel drive is nearly just a big of a piece of crap as my Kia Rio!!!!!! Ever see a BMW that's FWD,,,how bout a Mercedes, Porche, Ferrari????? Hint, hint-FWD suxs. It's for econo cars,,,,,Hello, hello,,, McFly!!! I have owed a crapload of cars in my life and to tell you the truth- each has a purpose and reason, each has there faults. It's just ironic that people who own what amounts to a cheap FWD econobox can sit back and make fun of a Kia!

I bought my Kia for a whooping sum of a little under 7500.00 bucks out the door. It has 20K on it now without a single problem. Yea I know, that ain't much. But guess what. The thing has a 10 year 1000K warranty! So what if the motor craps out at 90K, I get a new one. Do you? I bought it because it was 6000 dollars, got good gas mileage {I get a average of 35mpg with no Hwy miles and I beat the crap out of it} and it had a 10 YEAR/100K WARRANTY!!! What did you pay for your econobox Civic-12K or so?

O-BTW, last weekend I beat a newer Honda Civic {2003} at the strip two out of three times!!! The one time he beat me I missed 4th gear!!!!

I buy my cars as if they were tools. I own more than one dern wrench so I own more than one car. Each car has it's purpose. The Rio is a Beannie car that gets me back and forth to work cheaply. I'm only in it for about 1-1.5 hours a day. It ain't got to be a dern Rolls!!

Don't you folks understand that pretty much no-matter what car you drive, someone always is driving a better car. And they are saying the same crap ya'll are spouting off about you! Lets say you drive Honda Civic Si-you laugh at my butt driving a Rio. Guess what, some else {like me} are driving a a 12 second F-Body. Someone driving a BMW looks at your Honda Civic Si that you are so dern proud of or my Firebird and they think-what a piece of crap!

I pretty much like all cars for some reason. Each has a purpose. I shure as hell have enough self estem that I don't have to go around making fun of other folks who drive something else. It might be their second, third or forth car. And you are laughing????

Stupid, cocky jack-asses suck!!!:finger: Get a life!!!
PS,,thanks for the {a}.

[boingo82]

Originally posted by WU6
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I've seen FWD import owners {Honda ect.} bashing Kia. Guess what? Your front wheel drive is nearly just a big of a piece of crap as my Kia Rio!!!!!! Ever see a BMW that's FWD,,,how bout a Mercedes, Porche, Ferrari????? Hint, hint-FWD suxs. It's for econo cars,,,,,Hello, hello,,, McFly!!! ..

Ummm...FWD is fine for lots of things (handling in snow/gravel/rain being one of them) so that point is pretty much irrelevant. All of the cars you mentioned - Mercedes, Porsche, Ferrari, BMW - are hardly cars marketed against ANYTHING made by Honda, matter of fact, every last one of them costs at least $10,000 more than anything made by Honda. (By the way, I don't drive a Honda.) Last I checked, drivetrain was not the only standard by which a car can be judged. Also, you're going on and on about your gas mileage - which is about the same as that of the Civic and Sentra - but of course, none of those cars by Merc, Porsche, BMW, Ferrari get anywhere near that mileage, or have a warranty anywhere near that long. I guess that makes them crap? I don't know. Altogether, your post doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

That having been said, thanks to Hudson, I have been rethinking my stance on the Kia Optima. I still don't like the name, but I will admit that the car has a lot of looks and features for the money. I haven't driven one either- but there are a lot of cars I haven't driven, and there'll be time for that later. The crash-test scores aren't quite where I'd like to see them, but I looked through Kia's vehicles and they have been making a progressive improvement in occupant safety. The Sedona, for example, fares very well in the frontal-offset test conducted by the IIHS (www.hwysafety.org). Unfortunately the bumper tests caused significant amounts of damage, but Nissan had this problem with the 1995-1996 Maxima and successfully reinforced the bumpers to make them much less susceptible by the 1997 model year.

Why did I rethink this whole anti-Kia thing? Well, I realized that part of the reason I disliked Kias was because it's kind of popular to do so, and that's a dumb reason to do anything.

[WU6]

Originally posted by boingo82


Ummm...FWD is fine for lots of things (handling in snow/gravel/rain being one of them) so that point is pretty much irrelevant. All of the cars you mentioned - Mercedes, Porsche, Ferrari, BMW - are hardly cars marketed against ANYTHING made by Honda, matter of fact, every last one of them costs at least $10,000 more than anything made by Honda. (By the way, I don't drive a Honda.) Last I checked, drivetrain was not the only standard by which a car can be judged. Also, you're going on and on about your gas mileage - which is about the same as that of the Civic and Sentra - but of course, none of those cars by Merc, Porsche, BMW, Ferrari get anywhere near that mileage, or have a warranty anywhere near that long. I guess that makes them crap? I don't know. Altogether, your post doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

That having been said, thanks to Hudson, I have been rethinking my stance on the Kia Optima. I still don't like the name, but I will admit that the car has a lot of looks and features for the money. I haven't driven one either- but there are a lot of cars I haven't driven, and there'll be time for that later. The crash-test scores aren't quite where I'd like to see them, but I looked through Kia's vehicles and they have been making a progressive improvement in occupant safety. The Sedona, for example, fares very well in the frontal-offset test conducted by the IIHS (www.hwysafety.org). Unfortunately the bumper tests caused significant amounts of damage, but Nissan had this problem with the 1995-1996 Maxima and successfully reinforced the bumpers to make them much less susceptible by the 1997 model year.

Why did I rethink this whole anti-Kia thing? Well, I realized that part of the reason I disliked Kias was because it's kind of popular to do so, and that's a dumb reason to do anything.

On and on about my mileage? One sentence??? Hmmm? As far as comparing Hondas, Kias, or any other little beannie car to BMWs, yea that was the point-you got it. It is stupid. That's the point. People were comparing a 6-7K dollar Kia {or for that matter any "dollar Kia" to cars that cost twice as much. Yep, most of the time you get what you pay for.
I was trying to relay that laughing at someone elses choice of transportation suxs because {as I said} someone eles always has a better car. Should they laugh at the person laughing at someone driving a Kia. I think so-What comes around goes around. I don't do it, but I'm pretty sure someone will. There are jack-asses in every economic level.
The crack on FWD was there for a reason. To give the folks laughing at people driving Kias a dose of their own medicine. Do I actually believe the way the drivetrain is located in the vehicle is the "Standard by which a car is judged"? You figure it out-I own a Kia Rio and it is what? FWD, it suited my needs.
I think you figured out my post even if it didn't "make sense" to you. You pretty much had a good argument for each "stupid" thing I said. And that is the reason I posted.

[Jimster]

My problem with the Kia Rio is the skin-flint equipment lists- a Daewoo Matiz or Suzuki Alto will get you dual airbags and A/C- but The Rio has only a drivers airbag and no A/C- the former two cost about 1000 Euro's less.


The 1.5 litre engine is impressive- 85 Kw is almost Civic- power and well ahead of the 2O6 and Clio it is priced against- the dynamics are weak but you don't really expect them at that price...............The Rio is good- but not the greatest buy on the market.

[badassgremlin]

i fully support kia but the rio is thier worst car anyone remember the ford aspire? well kia built that load for ford years ago and thats what the rio is built from so ur getting an econo box from the mid 90's:licker:

[WU6]

I suppose that's why they cost 6 grand with a 10year/100K warranty-you suppose? Look, we all know a Rio ain't no beemer! We all know it ain't a Honda either. Is it the lowest priced car with a 10 year 100K warranty-yep! Like I and others have said-who the heck cares if the thing breaks if it's got a warranty. Look folks who buy Rios are people like we that just want a cheap car that they don't have to work on. If I continue with the mileage I am presently putting on the car {about 15-20K a year}, I will have a warranty for 5-6 years. If it's totally shot out after that-no problem. It's done what I bought it for.

I can tell you this-I sure as hell would rather have the Rio for 6 grand with a warranty than a used Honda/Nissian/Ford or whatever other used car you could get for the same amount that doesn't have a warranty {or what's left of the warranty}.

It is a great second car to drive to work and bump around in. It ain't for people who have a low self confidence level. If you are embarrassed driving a "second class" car-well that's your problem. I ain't and I would rather wear out the Rio than my other cars in day to day driving.

I just can't understand why folks have to make cracks on what other folks drive. If you want to go out and buy one car for 25K and drive it every day-dat in and day out, wearing it out to where you would only get 5 grand out of it 100K miles later. Well,,,be my guest. At least you won't be embarrassed!

[mmead16116]

4-21-2001

yes, 2001. thats when this thread was started. 2 years ago

KIA has come a long way since 2001. IMO, they are getting better; but i still wont own one. perhaps one day.....

i dont like them. i dont like anything about them. but i do respect them. so drop it. im unsubscribing from this tread

[Datsun_Dude]

If it's not Scottish... It's CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Koojo]

Wow....I started this thread back 2 years ago and look at how much it has grown. But my question still stands......How can anyone buy a KIA?

[boingo82]

Originally posted by Koojo
Wow....I started this thread back 2 years ago and look at how much it has grown. But my question still stands......How can anyone buy a KIA?

I believe they just walk into a Kia dealership, hand over a wad of money, sign a few papers, and it's theirs. Simple as that.

Originally posted by WU6
Like I and others have said-who the heck cares if the thing breaks if it's got a warranty.

Having recently had some work done to my car (water pump, it was due to go at 109,000 miles) I can answer this question. I have a warranty, and I still care if the thing breaks. Why? It's damned inconvenient to have to bring the car in, and then drive around some crappy Saturn whilst waiting for the repairs. And none of the local dealerships have loaner cars, just a shuttle, which doesn't do ANY good if you work swing shift like me. My warranty only paid for 1 day rental (1 day was enough Saturn for me anyway) so I had to bum rides since my part was on order. Then the mechanics are slow, or I need to fetch stuff out of my car, etc. Essentially it's just a pain to have the car in for work, warranty or not.

So in conclusion, warranties are nice but they are NEVER a replacement for a reliable car.

[Jimster]

Originally posted by boingo82


Having recently had some work done to my car (water pump, it was due to go at 109,000 miles) I can answer this question. I have a warranty, and I still care if the thing breaks. Why? It's damned inconvenient to have to bring the car in, and then drive around some crappy Saturn whilst waiting for the repairs. And none of the local dealerships have loaner cars, just a shuttle, which doesn't do ANY good if you work swing shift like me. My warranty only paid for 1 day rental (1 day was enough Saturn for me anyway) so I had to bum rides since my part was on order. Then the mechanics are slow, or I need to fetch stuff out of my car, etc. Essentially it's just a pain to have the car in for work, warranty or not.

So in conclusion, warranties are nice but they are NEVER a replacement for a reliable car.

Extrememly true- When you buy a car you expect it to take you where you want to go and do what you expect of it- warranties are really far over-rated- or amybe I'm just sour because I don't want to void mine :o