Spe-V vs WRX

[nismo_pilot]

Originally Posted by daveshapellSVT

heres what i think. stock wrx's run 14.3 and wrx wagons run 14.5-14.8.. i'm running 14.5 with just an intake,header and balanceshaft kit. thats a max cost of 700 bucks with tax and shipping. so it won't take many mods or a lot of cash to get there. the wrx is only quicker because of the better 60ft times due to the awd launches. on the highway i think my spec v could give a stock wrx a run for the money. a wagon will get beat. last time i went to the track there was new forester with the wrx engine in it running 14.7, which could be comparable to a wrx wagon.

and what happened to this statement right here? you switch sides more than colin powell

[SR20B12]

look

here are the specs for the WRX do note this is for a 06 .
note the AWD part of the WRX .

[daveshapellSVT]

yea i still stand by what i said. MY specv ran 14.5, yours doesn't, and i was referring to a stock wrx not a moded one. lastley i said i'd give it a run for the money. you said you beat that one dude pretty badly. so where did i contradict myself? The wrx can greatly benefit from an awd launch, but fact is many ppl won't launch them hard.

I tryed reading that link but the text is like tiny.

[nismo_pilot]

Originally Posted by nismo_pilot

just killed one last night, my intake header pulley vs his exhaust and intake, pulled him from 45, not by much but when we got to 80 he was a half car behind

how badly is one half car, and it really wasnt that, more like he was a little past my rear bumper

[nismo_pilot]

on specplace.com there is a review of a spec vs a wrx 5 speed, you can look it up if you want, the spec loses horribly in a straight drag, the wrx gets it from the launch and pulls the whole way, but from a street start at 30mph going to 50 the spec pulls the wrx by a tenth of a second, 2.31 to the wrx's 2.42........ maybe im not the only crazy one thinking the spec can pull it from a roll, and i ran him from 45 which means my gearing would have been slightly more wound up than it would have at 30 so i pull harder anyways

[daveshapellSVT]

can you get a link to that article i looked all over that site and i couldn't find it. anyhow that site kinda under rates the spec. they say it does the 1/4 in 15.5. which i guess it depends on the driver, but i ran 15.1 in mine bone stock.

Info
2002 Spec V
2003 Spec V
2004+ 2005 Spec V

0-60
7.5
7.5
7.5

1/4 Mile
15.55 @ 88.9
15.55 @ 88.9
15.55 @ 88.9

Lateral-g
.88
.88
.89

Slalom Speed*
68.5 MPH
68.5 MPH
71.0 MPH

60-0 Stopping
140 ft
134 ft
134 ft

these are some stats i found on that site.

[nismo_pilot]

http://www.car-videos.com/performanc...?ID1=115&ID2=3 its under quick comparison on the left, then theres a scroll bar up top to pick out basicly any car and compare their times

[daveshapellSVT]

thats a pretty good comparison. i guess in there test from 30-50 the spec is slightly faster i think thats just do to akward gearing. the spec does have really short gearing. but the thing is who races from 30-50. i mean from 30-50 that just might fall in the pefect gearing for the spec. a more interesting result i saw was 5-60, which is indeed a real go from a roll. rolling at 5 mph totally takes the awd benefit out of the equation which is what you guys feel is what makes the wrx faster. in that test the wrx from a roll reached 60 faster:

Street Start, 5-60 mph 7.10 s(spec) 6.28 s (WRX)

so you see from a roll in this test the wrx is still faster.

[nismo_pilot]

ive spun tires from a 10mph roll before, i seriously boubt the wrx does......point being that when the launch is removed, the spec stands a chance, and even though it pulls the wrx it does get reeled in high end, although barely, i just think its very close-minded to say that a car cannot do something without solid proof, also in that same test the wrx really didnt gain much time over the spec as distance increased, which tells you it doesnt pull much, so if you can jump out to a half a car or so, it will be there for a while

[daveshapellSVT]

well in that 5-60 comparison they simply are in first gear rolling at 5mph and then they just wack the gas. in that situation your car won't spin the tires unless you rev it and dump it which defeats the test. i also studied the 0-120mph times and the wrx does slowly pull away. the higher the speeds the more it pulls away. i mean shoot it takes the spec almost 10 seconds longer to reach 110mph. by that time the wrx will be refueling at the gas station lol.. lets stick to what you said you raced from. which was 45-80 as a i recal you stated. in this test between the two stock cars it takes the spec 6.67 seconds to go from 50-80 and it takes the wrx 6.07 seconds to do the same. thats a fairly decent walk dude. i just don't find it believable that the race you talked about coulda took place. especially with the wrx being moded. mod for mod the wrx will make bigger gains do to the fact that its a forced induction car. don't mean to shit on your parade but that dude can't drive or something and if it were anyone else you woulda got served pretty good. I mean this victory of yours over your buddy was no more a win then a ricer drive by lol

[nismo_pilot]

so youve never spun your tires from 5mph before? we'll leave it at that

[daveshapellSVT]

Originally Posted by nismo_pilot

so youve never spun your tires from 5mph before? we'll leave it at that

not in my sentra. at 5mph your only pulling like 1500rpm's if you wack the gas at that point i bet the qr25 is making like 100whp at 1500rpm. theres no way you can break the tires loose. i remember my spec v pretty well if you wacked the gas lets say going 25mph it would sqeel them. that was only when i was fully moded.

[nismo_pilot]

i broke them loose doing 15mph today just to make sure, i had to bag the tires down to 20psi before they wouldnt squeel anymore

[daveshapellSVT]

nice. thats just wacking the gas with the clutch out right? you spun pretty badly or kinda lunged forward at the same time? i mean theres no argueing the wrx has an advantage cause its awd, but i don't think it has much advantage from a roll. what i'm trying to get at is that the wrx still pulls away.

[nismowu]

Originally Posted by daveshapellSVT

thats a pretty good comparison. i guess in there test from 30-50 the spec is slightly faster i think thats just do to akward gearing. the spec does have really short gearing. but the thing is who races from 30-50. i mean from 30-50 that just might fall in the pefect gearing for the spec. a more interesting result i saw was 5-60, which is indeed a real go from a roll. rolling at 5 mph totally takes the awd benefit out of the equation which is what you guys feel is what makes the wrx faster. in that test the wrx from a roll reached 60 faster:

Street Start, 5-60 mph 7.10 s(spec) 6.28 s (WRX)

so you see from a roll in this test the wrx is still faster.

most ppl race from 30 or 40 to whatever on the highway,
I haven't seen anyone start rolling with just 5mph.

anyway, at least we all no from 30-50 specv stands a chance vs wrx