Buick Grand National

[longlivetheZ]

Sweet.....I'm not alone.

Thanks for the reply. Now I know.

[Hypsi87]

yea if your ever at the track and you see a GM car go one way and the wheel and axle go another then you know the c-clip broke

[longlivetheZ]

That would be kinda funny looking....like....wait....that's not supposed to do that....

[1qwik4]

Axles on the GN don't break very often. I have made 10 sec passes on stock axles, stock rear end for that matter. One of the best cars I have ever owned.

[Hypsi87]

Originally Posted by 1qwik4

Axles on the GN don't break very often. I have made 10 sec passes on stock axles, stock rear end for that matter. One of the best cars I have ever owned.

I know I was talking about all other GM axles...... Why GM can't learn from this i don't know. 10 sec buicks are cool. What do you have done to your car??

[1qwik4]

On my first buick, I had the whole motor redone. It was a factory short block degreased with stock internals, roller cam, stock heads ported, exhaust, fuel pump, intercooler, all little supporting items, and I think a Garrett 62 turbo. This car ran 10.69 @124 driving to and from the track. My second with a Stage 2 272" ran 9.83 @ 137, didn't drive this one to the track but it was perfectly streetable except for the slicks. Both cars used the stock computer, no DFI.

[Hypsi87]

sweet. Have you ever been to bowling green for the Nats.

[1qwik4]

I have been to Bowling Green about 3 times, thinking between the years of 98-2001. Haven't been there as of late. It is a great show, have you been there? When I am there, I usually was around Red Armstrong, the guru from Ohio. Been out of the seen for a while, thinking about getting back in. Went to Englishtown too, Buick Mustang shootout. Do you venture out to any events?

[gn1220]

Check the new issue of GMHTP (GM High Tech Performance) Cal Hartline runs 8.50, yes 8's, in his street driven GN with the STOCK rear end! These cars kick a$$! I feel very lucky to own mine.

[kratefan]

Originally Posted by Hudson

Grand Nationals were rear-wheel drive and never produced more than 245hp (I'm not counting the GNX). Today's superchaged 3.8L V6 produces 240hp in front-wheel drive applications and Cadillacs routinely put out up to 300hp. The transmissions are available.

The 245hp was what Buick ADMITTED. They had to get it past Turbo Hydramatic or else they would have a car with no transmission. The 245 figure was achieved at 4400 rpm. The heads continued to breath up to 5400 or so. Car and Driver estimated about 290 in their April 1986 issue based upon its performance in the 1/4 mile.

[kratefan]

Originally Posted by prossech

Morpheus

You could order the 3.8 turbo drive train in any rear drive Buick Regal (T Types , too) in 1986 or 1987. There are some grandma looking cars (bench seats, column shifter, fake wire wheel hub caps, and landau roofs) that can rip off a 13 second quarters out there. They are also lighter than the GN's which had power everything and extra sound insulation material.

Not to mention Red Armstrong's wife's (Jane) car. It does mid to low 10's with the Limited package (including landau roof). No, it's not stock ;^).

[kratefan]

Originally Posted by Hypsi87

also I'm gonna figue that you are going to ask me about the Turbo Trans Am. In 1989 for the 20th anniv. pontiac borrowed the buick turbo v-6 and put it ina GTA body. same drive train as a GN but in a TA.

Actually, the TTA had the heads from the 3800 Buick engine (different from the 3.8 in the Turbo Buicks.) The engine bay was too thin for the 3.8 heads. The new heads bumped the compression a bit. Also, the TTA had a cross-drilled crank from the factory.

[Hypsi87]

Originally Posted by kratefan

Actually, the TTA had the heads from the 3800 Buick engine (different from the 3.8 in the Turbo Buicks.) The engine bay was too thin for the 3.8 heads. The new heads bumped the compression a bit. Also, the TTA had a cross-drilled crank from the factory.

I mentioned tha somewhere in this thread. I think if not my bad... My uncle has a TTA bad ass cars. Probabaly the only 3rd gen f-body I would own

[KuzmaEagle]

Anyone know where I can get a Grand National engine (pref 1984-87) these days? Anywhere near San Antonio?

Thanks!

-KuzmaEagle@aol.com

[skedmd]

I have just discovered the Grand National, and I must say that it has turned into my dream car! I have been looking into them, and was wondering about their reliability. I'm certainly not affraid to put some work into a car, but I don't want to get in over my head with problems (i.e. transmission, drivetrain etc...). Any information would be great.