Spe-V vs WRX

[daveshapellSVT]

good point. i feel like this is myth busters. this myth is " BUSTED"... only logical explanation is either that indeed was not a wrx, you can easily change the badges and someone that doesn't know what to look for could not recognize the turbo motor, or perhaps you have more mods then you care to share. and i'll say it again best time anyone is gonna see from a FULLY bolted spec v is perhaps 14.3-14.4 on good aftermarket tires. i know this because the V-board has quarter miles posts on top of my experience and what i have seen at the track. heres some numbers to think about:


WRX(stock)
Average 60ft: 2.0
0-60: 5.5
1/4: 14.1-14.3 AVG.

Specv(stock)
Average 60ft: (My best, 2.1)- 2.3
0-60:6.9-7.5 sec
1/4: 15.1-15.5 sec


Stock for stock the wrx is almost a full second faster. like i said MYTH BUSTED!!!!

[nismo_pilot]

why are we posting quarter times again? in another forum this thread would be closed due to lack of progress, if were still stuck on the quarter mile debate then might as well lock this fucker down, yeah it wins in the quarter, big deal, the fact is they put out around equal wheel horsepower and the wrx is heavier, the only thing i dont know for a fact is the gearing on each car, someone post the gear ratios please, so we can end this, i pulled one form a 45 roll where a spec is at its strongest, yes it was a wrx, not the impreza, idk what boost he was running and i dont think he would have been honest anyways, but he was saving for an sti engine build, after that conversion i dont want any of him, unless someone wants to post up the gear ratios for each car i dont thin ktehres any other fatcs we can bring up to prove one way or the other

[SR20B12]

Originally Posted by nismo_pilot

why are we posting quarter times again? in another forum this thread would be closed due to lack of progress, if were still stuck on the quarter mile debate then might as well lock this fucker down, yeah it wins in the quarter, big deal, the fact is they put out around equal wheel horsepower and the wrx is heavier, the only thing i dont know for a fact is the gearing on each car, someone post the gear ratios please, so we can end this, i pulled one form a 45 roll where a spec is at its strongest, yes it was a wrx, not the impreza, idk what boost he was running and i dont think he would have been honest anyways, but he was saving for an sti engine build, after that conversion i dont want any of him, unless someone wants to post up the gear ratios for each car i dont thin ktehres any other fatcs we can bring up to prove one way or the other

here you go boyo.... this should help.

[daveshapellSVT]

well, as far as i'm conserned your full of crap. cause you didn't beat a WRX. i was trying to be kind and state some facts to help you realize your mistake, but it all comes down to a wrx will kill a spec v. they have no where near the same wheel horsepower. and a race from a roll is just another form of drag racing only without the launch, where a spec v basically sucks at. A stock wrx will make over 170 WHP. a stock Specv will make 145whp MAX! the wrx you raced that was moded was probably making over 200 at the wheels. you are making maybe 155-160 if your lucky. its bull crap there is no way you beat him. if you don't mind lying to yourself and living in a dream world thinking you beat an actual wrx then so be it, but no one wants to here your bullcrap story. Conclusion, NOT GONNA HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!!

[nismo_pilot]

ohhhh i see, i forgot that i dont really know anything about cars, my bad dude

[daveshapellSVT]

well you obviously don't know the car you drive and ones you race.

[Chiquae07]

um dave...chill out geez. we aren't MAGAZINE racing. its called from a ROLL. and go realease your stress somewhere else like in the stress posting area in the forums or something. you driving me crazy just sayin that you're right by using CAPS!!! sheesh...just take into it that maybe the driver was part of it. honestly i dont care and as long as you stop bashing on saying a spec v can't beat a wrx on anything, its not true. anycar can beat anything if the driver isn't as well as to control the car to its full potentional....go back into the domestic forums with your firebird where you can argue and everyone will agree with you......

[nismowu]

Originally Posted by daveshapellSVT

well, as far as i'm conserned your full of crap. cause you didn't beat a WRX. i was trying to be kind and state some facts to help you realize your mistake, but it all comes down to a wrx will kill a spec v. they have no where near the same wheel horsepower. and a race from a roll is just another form of drag racing only without the launch, where a spec v basically sucks at. A stock wrx will make over 170 WHP. a stock Specv will make 145whp MAX! the wrx you raced that was moded was probably making over 200 at the wheels. you are making maybe 155-160 if your lucky. its bull crap there is no way you beat him. if you don't mind lying to yourself and living in a dream world thinking you beat an actual wrx then so be it, but no one wants to here your bullcrap story. Conclusion, NOT GONNA HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!!

.......u r only comparing the hp,
how about un....
weight?
tran ratio?
torque?
turbo lag?

ok, maybe wrx wins, but won't be "very much"

[nismo_pilot]

well im done arguing about it because i dont have to prove anything to a magazine racer about what i do with my car, then again its typical of car forums for this to happen, no matter who you are there is someone out there who knows that you're wrong :

[daveshapellSVT]

now i'm a magazine racer? excuses excuses. i know from fact real life experiences. i'm not bashing any one car i'm just stateing facts. i used to own a spec v and i raced it a lot so i know a lot about this topic. i had twice as many mods, twice as much power, and twice as much experience on the track and on the street. i know what i'm saying. the wrx weighs roughly 3100 pounds thats only 200 more pounds then the sentra. the wrx more then makes up for that weight and then some. stock for stock the wrx puts out 30 whp more then the specv. and thats at the wheels so drivetrain loss has already been calculatted in the equation. The turbo is very small and spools fast so turbo lag isn't even an issue. and as i recall supposedly this wrx had an intake and something else. if any thing the intake would help it spool even faster so there is no lag here. and going on the mods you said you had your car is barley putting out more power then stock. your lucky to be putting out 155-160 whp. that wrx with those mods is probably putting down 190whp at least. theres no way that you coulda straight up beat that wrx. now if he wasn't racing or just toying with you, not full throttle, i can see that. a lot of ppl make that mistake and come back and post, " oh my moms taurus beat a z06". probably cause the guy wasn't even racing lol. my advice is go race him again, make sure he is racing and get it on tape. thats what i have learned when i have posted stories or kills. the only way ppl are gonna believe you is if there is lagit proof. But from my stand point and what i know i don't believe it.

[nismo_pilot]

well i know for a fact that he was racing because i jumped on him one time and ripped him by like three cars, i was like, that wasnt right, so i slow back down, and beep the horn three times and then we went, a taurus wont beat a z06, i know that, i still pulled him by not even a car by about 80 then he started pulling top end, im not trying to say i beat him by miles or anything, but i pulled him nonetheless, so it IS possible, saying that it isnt is very ignorant, and the only reason i keep going wiht this is im sick of people online assuming that everyone else is stupid and they are the only ones that know ANYTHING...... when i first joined i had nothing but respect for the people on here and valued their opinions, even if i didnt agree, fugiot, when is the last time i told you that youre an idiot and you dont know anyhting about your car, because i know better? the last time ive done that to someone was about oh..... never, have some respect for people, it only makes you look like a douche

[nismo_pilot]

and the wrx weighs 400 pounds more, please re-read my original calcs about power to weight in each car, im not posting it again

[Chiquae07]

forget it...imma just let this thread die....it not worth arguing it over the internet....sheesh...let it die in peace....

[daveshapellSVT]

that thing you posted was like every japanese version of a wrx starting from 1994. it really had nothing to do with the american version. i did a search online and the number i found was roughly 3100 lbs. a specv weighs in anywhere from 2800 - 2900 lbs. And did you think i was serious when i said a taurus can beat a zo6? its called sarcasm. obviously a car with 380hp that weights 3000 lbs is gonna beat a shitty family car that makes 180hp and weighs twice as much. Anyhow have you had your car dyno'd or even been to the track with it? If you did you would know your story is far feched.

Check this out:

14.59 in my fully bolted spec v. and thats a fairly quick time for the mods i had. i had, JWT cams, AEM cold air intake, UR pulley, Balance shaft removal kit, hotshot header,and motor mounts. a freakin automatic wrx with rosan bar driving it would run faster than 14.5. and the funny thing is your no where near that quick. at best your running 14.8. your cars slow right now man theres no way your car can beat a wrx from a roll. and whats up with this roll shit. be a man and race from a stop. only posers race from a roll cause they have no skills and don't know how to launch a FWD car. your not making enough power to spin like crazy off the line if you slip it so be a man and learn how to drag race like a big boy. heres a pic of the beaut:

[nismo_pilot]

i am well aware of the differences in roll racing vs from a dig, and in my opinion a fwd car will get roasted by a rwd or awd car with just half the power in at least 1st gear, prolly more like 2nd before the fwd car catches up, its even worse the more power you make, if you are familiar with the spec you should know its hard as hell to launch even with just an intake, if you havent gotten it by now ill let you know again, i am well aware of the fact that the wrx, hell even the base model impreza probably runs faster in the quarter than even a fully bolted spec, but im not arguing about this race from a roll anymore, do you know just how important the launch in a race is? its probably about 30% of a race bewteen unevenly modded cars, but more like 90% of the difference in equal cars, the wrx and spec put down numbers that are similar enough to put them in that category where the launch makes about 90% of the difference in the race, and since the wrx has all wheel drive it will kill the spec everytime from a stop, no questioning that, but those cars are also so close together that from a roll its pretty interesting, take the launch out of the equation, which you refuse to do, and youve got a pretty even race, depednign on who reacts first it can go either way, i was fortunate enough to react first vs the wrx and i beat him, im sure if he had reacted a little faster he might have pulled me, or we may have stayed even, and by this i dont mean i hit the gas and then he decided to race 10 seconds later, so dont even post that, we set it up ahead of time, becasue this thread had already been started and i wanted to see. idk what your beef is but why not be a little more open minded