david-b's 95 Eagle Talon ESi-T Motor Build

[david-b]

Did some work today. Got 3/4 pistons in.

I have a question. When I turn the crank by hand, should it be super smooth and easy or should it be a little rough?



I'm getting my kitchen back!

[SilvrEclipse]

They aren't ball bearings so the crank isin't going to turn super smooth. I wouldn't worry about it

[david-b]

Originally Posted by SilvrEclipse

They aren't ball bearings so the crank isin't going to turn super smooth. I wouldn't worry about it

Good. It just seems that you can hear the rings against the cylinder walls (yes I oiled them) pretty well, and when everything is mid-crank (all pistons same height), it seems to get hard to turn at that point. I'll get that last one in tonight then. I have to say, this is fun.

Also, what was the final torque specs on the caps? Manual says 20lbs/ft and then to 90lbs/ft. I threw out the boxes for the rods with all the papers yesterday (dumbass) so I don't know if they should be different. Was going for 90 and I can't because the stand keeps moving all over the place once I get past like 70lbs

Also you can see in the pic of my kitchen the turbo is all back together except for the compressor. Still going to get that polished/painted soon and won't bolt down until on the car. Also next to it is a 2.5" v-clamp that I got off eBay for pretty cheap. Would have been cheaper to make my own, but this one is all polished and looks nice.

On a side note... I've been at my apartment for over a year and my landlord has never been inside since I moved in. He said a couple months back that he would stop by one day to just make sure that everything is good and just give the place a once over. Well he called me Tuesday night asking if I he could come over because he was at my neighbors. I don't think he would mind too much with the motor being there since I'm not making a huge mess and cleaning it up, but the kitchen was TERRIBLE on Tuesday. That's why I cleaned up a lot and put everything in a home or a pile. Kinda funny that he wants to come over mid-project like that. Coincidence?

[SilvrEclipse]

What rods do you have? Be careful torqing those rod caps. Mine where only suppose to be around 45 ft.lbs and i got them mixed up with the thicker studs and tried torqing them to 75 ft.lbs. I never could even reach that torque spec bc the bolt streched like hell. I ended up having to replace that bolt. So be careful and find the spec before you crank the hell out of them.

[david-b]

Originally Posted by SilvrEclipse

What rods do you have? Be careful torqing those rod caps. Mine where only suppose to be around 45 ft.lbs and i got them mixed up with the thicker studs and tried torqing them to 75 ft.lbs. I never could even reach that torque spec bc the bolt streched like hell. I ended up having to replace that bolt. So be careful and find the spec before you crank the hell out of them.

Eagle Rods. Shit. I hope I didn't screw them up. That explains why it doesn't really stop. I'm off to find specs!




EDIT: Looks like I'll need a new set of ARPs. DAMNIT!

[SilvrEclipse]

some of the bolts held 75 lbs and didn't strech but one did bad and then i stopped so I only replaced that one. You may not need to buy all of them. I think there is a strech limit so you may want to check that out

[david-b]

Not much has happened still. Funds a little low and time just not on my side too. Basically, I'm going to tear the block down again and redo it. You can turn the crank by hand but you need a lot of force. So something is not right there. Crank spun fine originally, but once pistons were installed, that's when the problems happened. So, have to check everything again.

I started wiring MS but keep getting bored while doing it. I'm lazy. I bought a HP Mini laptop that I installed MS on. It's only like 3lbs and has a 8" screen I believe. Not a bad little computer. Screen is nice and bright and it can handle MS no problem it seems like. Worth the money. Also use it for when I want to be more mobile with my computer, since my other laptops have 17" screens or no batteries or whatever.

My power windows are ballin' still. The thicker door panels On the "premium" doors are nice and really do block out a lot of road noise compared to the cheap thin plastic ones I used to have.

[SilvrEclipse]

The motor is going to be hard to turn. The rings are scraping against the cylinder walls. Thats not a big deal

[david-b]

Ok so now that I'm back settled in from vacation, it's time to get this project going again. I'm doing research on clutches right now. I think that's the last big expense for this project. I also picked up a new 12' wiring harness for MS so I don't have to run all my own wires and shit. It's all loomed up and wires are labeled. Will make it easy to get done. Should start running that this week as long as the rain is all good.

Still going to tear the block apart and make sure rings are in the right place and relube everything. Just for my own piece of mind.

My current IC piping where i welded the BOV pipe on (steel on aluminum) is starting to leak. So I got a new flange and going to make a little section and just coupler it in to the IC setup.

-Fuel injectors are going to be some 1000s. Going to sell the 440s I have first.
-Boost controller is ordered.
-Looking at large FMIC but may just max out the litle one first.
-Downpipe will be built on the spot. Was going to get a GST DP and run a little setion from the turbo to it, but I can weld my own up no problem.
-Bought sheet metal to reconstruct the passenger-side strut tower. Rust has gotten pretty bad so going to cut out the bad spots and redo it.
-Need new fuel rail (don't want to cut up current one)

So time got pushed off to mid June now for completion.

[steviek]

how long you think its all gonna take

[david-b]

Originally Posted by david-b

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So time got pushed off to mid June now for completion.

Originally Posted by steviek

how long you think its all gonna take

[Blackcrow64]

Originally Posted by david-b

Take note guys... This is exactly how my response was to the same questions...






































And we all see how far I am...

Feel the love Davey

[vanilla gorilla]

Looking good Davey. Keep up the good work

[david-b]

[david-b]

So this past week the car had been running like shit. I replaced the air filter (finally) last weekend and ever since the, the turbo has been super loud. Like any little bit of spooling was very audible. As the week progressed, I noticed the AFR was resting in the 16 range, and then last night and today, 17+. Also was getting a lot of misfires, died a couple times this morning, and just driving like shit. WOT was great though. Only thing I saw when I popped the hood was an exhaust mani bolt has started coming out.

Well today I'm flying home on the expressway and the car bogs, misfires, and is basically trying to die. EGTs go from ~1400* to ~400*. I then hear my downpipe hitting the ground. Shit. I was near my parents so I babied it home. Sounds like a big V8, metal scraping on the ground, and turbo making every sound very loud. Get there, and see this.



Downpipe ended up cracking in the middle and breaking. I didn't notice this because of the exhaust wrap. I guess since I made the DP sit too low, all the hits it had taken finally wore it out and just snapped. Only thing holding it on were the sensors and like 2 threads of exhaust wrap. Fun.

Well I redid it today. Was going to make a whole new one but since I'm doing that later, just welded up the cracked pieces back together. I didn't rewrap though... just painted it. Actually turned out extremely well. While I was in there, finally welded my hood pins to the radiator support (no more loose, rattling things), and installed the MBC. The MBC I can't seem to get the boost to raise up. Sitting steady at 5psi. Have to look into that, but car is running great again with no problems, 14.7AFR again and sounding like it used to.




Last but not least, bought an IM spacer. Supposed to drop temps in the intake or something, and got the stainless steel bolts to go along with it which are also supposed to help. We'll see.