2002 CL-S or 2002 MAXIMA ????

[89lxihb 00lude]

OK The Max is faster thanks type-S for post what they run stock. I didn't realize they where so light. The navi cls is 3525lbs and the max is 3275lbs in gle trim.

One question though. Did you leave it in D5 or put it in man mode.

Just for the record I haven't alway hated Nissan and that might change whenb the Z comes out. Unless Honda makes something better.

[F20C]

Originally posted by joeB
I agree with you that Car&Driver is the better magazine, ( I
have stacks of them since 1988). I dont think its that much
better than Motor Trend. If you want to know why I think the
Maxima is better here are some- 7 years best V-6 in a row,
more room, better looks. I think the Maxima is faster too.
My point Im trying to make is in 95 when the VQ came out,
there where just about no other car class and price range that
could touch it, luxury or performance. But now today there is...
My other reason why I think that its "probably" better is I have
a 98 Maxima SE that has 181,000 miles, and Ive only had to put
tires and brakes front and back one time. (Its probably about due
for new ones soon),. Also a tuneup at 110,000, oil changes ect...
and it still run like it was new. Those are my opionions why I
think its better, and that still doesnt make it so, thats just my
opinion, everyone each to their own. But lets all be honest here,
the Max is faster as of now, but I do think when the Acura gets its
6-speed it will be faster. Honda would be my next pick, but I like
Nissan better for overall quality and performace...Sorry for this being
so long guys, and dont let it get to you so much what people say in here.

Opinions are never right nor wrong. I can better understand why you think Maxima is the better car now that I see your reasonings.

[mattattax]

i'm guessing here but i think the cl-s and tl-s are going to have a lot more aftermarket parts than the maxima, simply b/c it's an acura/honda so anyone who is planning on fully modding their car may want to take that into consideration also, don't get me wrong though, the max has more aftermarket than a lot of people realize, you just really have to look for them

[F20C]

CL and TL doesn't have the usual Honda Aftermarket support.

[Maximadave]

Originally posted by F20C
CL and TL doesn't have the usual Honda Aftermarket support.

Nissan/Stillen Acura/Comptech. I know what you mean. :cry:

[89lxihb 00lude]

comptech is developing a supercharger for the type-S and will be available by teh time the 03 comes out. I'm pretty sure that stillen makes one for the Max.

[F20C]

Yes I know Comptech has SC coming out since they show the prototype at SEMA. However think about this CL Type S already has 260 hp powering the Front Wheels. Torque steer is going to be a major problem unless Acura shifts to RWD.

[89lxihb 00lude]

The current car has 260 and there is no torque steer what so ever. Thats one of the advantages for double wishbone suspension. I don't think the sc will make a differance in that traction on the other hand will be a different story. BTW the 6 spd will have a limited slip diff.

[F20C]

If you pay close attention you can feel some torque steer on CL Type S. However I don't think Double wishbone will be enough to save a 350 hp FWD car. 350 hp is just a estimation of what the SC should put out on Type S.

[TatII]

89lxihb 00lude i can't belive you said that a prelude handles better then a silvia. if you haven't noticed we're talkin about the j spec turbo charge SR20DET powered silvia. those will blow any prelude away. they run 0-60 in the upper 5's and they are RWD drift machines. now for the NSX being better then the Skyline? i don't know what yoru seeing but every issue that i've seen, and every bestmotoring international that i've seen (best japanese auto video magazine out) i've seen the skyline keep up neck to neck with a 420 hp porsche 996 all wheel drive. the time difference between them at the race was only.15 seconds difference. the evo 7 would be right behind the GT-R, and guess what? the NSX was around 2 second behind. i wonder why? maybe its csue its a overpriced car? its 90gs. and the GT-R is 50G's in japan. yes i do admit that the NSX is faster on the straights, but try puttin allt hat power to the ground with a MR compared to a 4WD car. its totally different. and in the other best motoring international that i saw, where it was all the european super cars, vs. japan. there was the ferrari F50, F40, F355, lambourgini diablo SV, porches GT3, GT2, and guess what car they picked to represent japan? it sure as hell wasn't a NSX it was a GT-R v spec I. well it didnt do too well, but it almost beat the F355. and if it was a V-spec II (that wans' out at the tiem the video was released) then it would've definitly beaten the F355. and don't you notice in japan who drives hondas? mostly old ladies or office workers. who drives nissans? hardcore highway battlers, and drifters. nuff said, the japanese knows whats fast and whats not, and nissan is the shit in japan.

[89lxihb 00lude]

taz I'm not talking power, that has nothing to do with handling. Drifting is not the fastest way around a corner. It's needed for cars that can't take the corner at speed w/o understeering. So you swing the tail out and use the throtle to get you around. That's why you don't see drifting in competion, it just looks cool thats it. As for the NSX being over priced. Have you ever seen one in person it's an exotic. To it's handmade aluminum chassis and body to the hand sewn leather seats. The skyline doesn't compare in handling neither. If you ever watch the JGTC the skylines don't say in the corners they just have a huge advanage in power. The MR design is perfect balance AWD is just a crutch for poorly balanced car, unless like in rallies tracion is limited. Don't get me wrong I like the GTR for what it is a road eating BEAST!! But I tend to like finese over brute power. BTW the R32 is the best looking GTR, not counting the new concept that really looks hot!

[F20C]

TATII if you driven NSX you will know why it's better than Skyline.

[joeB]

Same goes for the Maxima, if you drive one, you will

know its better than a Honda Accord, Toyota Camry,

Avalon, and Acura CL and the Type S. , people just

may not want to admit it...........:cry:

[89lxihb 00lude]

joe I would hope its better than teh accord it's 28K accords only 24k. Even if it is faster than the tl or cl it's doesn't hold up in EVERYTHING else.

[TatII]

89lxihb 00lude yes i have seen a NSX up close, my friend owns a 95 Type T. and its been sooo perfectly maintained and even the side intakes are dust free. it was abosulely gorgious. but if i feel that way about a NSX is person, what makes you think that i won't feel even more excited if i were to ever see a GT-R in person. plus that reason why the GT-R is not all that great in the JTTC is becasue its made into a RWD, due to restictions. in my opinion, even though i don't think that i will ever get a chance of drivin either a GT-R or a NSX, i think the GT-R would be the ultimate street car from the land of the rising sun.