Supper Charger, Turbo Charger, or My Creation

[james33]

Originally Posted by 94tegRS

you can generally do it cheaper by not getting a kit, peicing it together and getting only the parts you want. do you actually need to spend 300+ on a branfd name new IC when you can find used ones that dont leak for around 50 bucks, sure you want a new turbo, but a used manifold would be fine as well. and if you arent running lots of boost, the rising rate FMU works, and you probably run richer than needed, but for a decent amount boost or to just have it tuned perfect, then you need to get some kind of programmable ECU, but i still dont see 5k.

oh and it was a 94tegRS, it only had I/H/E, and ididnt do it to the car, but I have owned 15 cars over the course of 3 1/2 years and have taken them to the shop ONE time, I always do my own maintanence, repairs, etc... myself cuz its cheaper, and I dont know how to do it until I do, but after I do it I know how, Ive rebuilt VW engines, swapped engines in my civic, etc...

I prefer not to gamble my lack of knowledge and expertise against installing a turbo in a $25K car that is still under warranty. If I had an older car that was "experimental" sure, it'd be a blast to tinker with and if the engine went KABOOM or something else bad happened, chalk it up to experience and try again. You are right as far as piecing it together cheaper. And you can get your own programmable ECU (there are a couple for the Spyder I know people use) but those run $1000 or so and you still have no know what you are doing to get the most out of it. If you are experienced at it, then go for it. The guy wanting to do this doesn't seem to have experience with turbos and tuning - no offense to him, but anyone thinking they could attach an electric fan to the motor for boost is clueless as to how and why turbos and superchargers really work. Just my 2 cents. I know I'd pay to get it done RIGHT so I wouldn't have to worry about it.

James

[94tegRS]

wouldnt boosting his MR2 void the warranty anyways. the only way I see it not would be if the dealer sold it to him and installed it, I see DC sports headers at the honda dealership for sale, but they are like 375 bucks each, so right there the turbos gonan be way overpriced from a dealerhsip, and they rape you wiht charges. I went in to get some work done on a tranny i bought used for dirt cheap, it was missing the bolts to hole the cases together and all the plugs and a few other misc. bolts and they wanted me to give them 350 bucks just for the bolts plugs! and by the time I would have had my tranny back to me it would have been 978 bucks or something like that, and I even tok it to them and was going to put it in the car myself, so they had no removal/install time on there.

[james33]

Originally Posted by 94tegRS

wouldnt boosting his MR2 void the warranty anyways. the only way I see it not would be if the dealer sold it to him and installed it, I see DC sports headers at the honda dealership for sale, but they are like 375 bucks each, so right there the turbos gonan be way overpriced from a dealerhsip, and they rape you wiht charges. I went in to get some work done on a tranny i bought used for dirt cheap, it was missing the bolts to hole the cases together and all the plugs and a few other misc. bolts and they wanted me to give them 350 bucks just for the bolts plugs! and by the time I would have had my tranny back to me it would have been 978 bucks or something like that, and I even tok it to them and was going to put it in the car myself, so they had no removal/install time on there.

Yes -
adding a turbo would void the warranty. My point is if I were to add a turbo I would want it done right by a professional that has fitted and tuned it for the Spyder before - not by myself and some friends who have always wanted to add a turbo to a car. At least I'd have a much better chance of not destroying my engine that way. The dealer would never install it anyway - it would have to be a specialty shop.

[Mr2Spyder2828]

Yes, see that is why I want to trade my Mr2 Spyder in and get a 2002 Z06 corvette. Because if I turbo my mr2 I void waranty, If I turbo it I will be spending about 5,000-6,000 for a decent turbo setup. So I figure sell the mr2 for $20,000 buy a vette for 27,000 and save myself the trouble of getting a turbo put on. Total cost of getting a turbo put on my mr2, and doing it right, about $7,000, including all the add ons.
Then maybe in the future supercharge the vette=500hp + .

what you think?

And yes I knew a litle bit about turbos before I joined this site, but have learned alot in the short time ive been here. You've been verry helpfull.

B.

[james33]

Originally Posted by Mr2Spyder2828

Yes, see that is why I want to trade my Mr2 Spyder in and get a 2002 Z06 corvette. Because if I turbo my mr2 I void waranty, If I turbo it I will be spending about 5,000-6,000 for a decent turbo setup. So I figure sell the mr2 for $20,000 buy a vette for 27,000 and save myself the trouble of getting a turbo put on. Total cost of getting a turbo put on my mr2, and doing it right, about $7,000, including all the add ons.
Then maybe in the future supercharge the vette=500hp + .

what you think?

And yes I knew a litle bit about turbos before I joined this site, but have learned alot in the short time ive been here. You've been verry helpfull.

B.

I think that if all you want is speed, and can afford the insurance and cost of the car, then sell your Spyder and get a Mustang Cobra or Vette or any other high horsepower muscle car. The Spyder was not built to be a straight line 1/4 mile racer. I love the car because:

1. It's a roadster - 2 seat, top down, in your face fun.
2. It handles and brakes better than most cars. Add a few suspension mods and nothing can keep up with it on a twisty road.
3. It gets GREAT gas mileage - 30mpg all the time
4. Is not too expensive on insurance, at least not compared to the 300+ horsepower cars out there.
5. It's LIGHT - at around 2,100lbs, it doesn't need a lot of horsepower to move it. VERY nimble - like a go-cart on rails. Every time I drive I leave the car with a grin on my face.
6. They are not a dime a dozen. I see vettes. mustangs, hondas, miatas, cameros, etc every day and usually more than 3-4 a day. I can go a week and not see another Spyder. With only 5,000 imported to the US, I like the exclusivity.

Once my warranty goes, I plan on adding a turbo setup. I think that at about 180-200 hp, the car would be absolutely perfect in all respects. No need for any more than that, IMO.

Sounds to me the Spyder just isn't the car for you. You want a 1/4 mile speedster - go for it.

[Mr2Spyder2828]

Does anyone know how fast,(1/4 mile) times the spyder has if it is turbocharged? I have been looking around and cant find any stats. I think I read that if 2002 mr2spyder turboed with 8-9 psi it will run 12's in the 1/4mi, though im not sure. the hp was around 230 to 250 I think. what you think? cause that is what vettes are running around right(1/4 mi).

B.

[james33]

Originally Posted by Mr2Spyder2828

Does anyone know how fast,(1/4 mile) times the spyder has if it is turbocharged? I have been looking around and cant find any stats. I think I read that if 2002 mr2spyder turboed with 8-9 psi it will run 12's in the 1/4mi, though im not sure. the hp was around 230 to 250 I think. what you think? cause that is what vettes are running around right(1/4 mi).

B.

http://monkeywrenchracing.com/1-4mil...-4milemr2s.htm

[Mr2Spyder2828]

thanx that is cool. 12.679(1/4 mi) 109.68mi/hr MR2-S MT Custom Turbo, IC jon_volk Lebanon Valley what boost do you think he was running on his car to get that 1/4mi time? you probly dont know though.
and that is about what vettes run stock

B.

[james33]

Originally Posted by Mr2Spyder2828

thanx that is cool. 12.679(1/4 mi) 109.68mi/hr MR2-S MT Custom Turbo, IC jon_volk Lebanon Valley what boost do you think he was running on his car to get that 1/4mi time? you probly dont know though.
and that is about what vettes run stock

B.

No idea on the boost etc. He wasn't making NEAR the horsepower that Vette makes though, I can tell you that. And like I told you, you CAN'T compare a stock Vette to a Spyder - turbo'ed or not. The Vette costs twice as much new, has 350 horsepower STOCK, gobs of torque and was BUILT with raw speed in mind. The engineers designed it that way. The Spyder was NEVER EVER built with 12 second 1/4 mile times in mind. The Vette WAS. It sounds like all that matters to you is the 1/4 mile time of the car. Buy the Vette and enjoy. You won't be happy with your slow Spyder no matter what.

[Mr2Spyder2828]

I know there is no comparison between the two. I like the fact that I have one of the rarest cars in my town. I see more corvettes and camaros and mustangs than I can imagine. every other car is one of those. As far as respect though, no one fears the mr2spyder. Ya I could probly handle better through some tight turns but how often does that come up. compared to stoplight races with big cars.

off topic - do you know which state would have the cheapest vettes?

[james33]

Originally Posted by Mr2Spyder2828

I know there is no comparison between the two. I like the fact that I have one of the rarest cars in my town. I see more corvettes and camaros and mustangs than I can imagine. every other car is one of those. As far as respect though, no one fears the mr2spyder. Ya I could probly handle better through some tight turns but how often does that come up. compared to stoplight races with big cars.

off topic - do you know which state would have the cheapest vettes?

LOOK - This is my last post on this topic. It's stupid kids like you that get people killed and cause insurance rates to skyrocket. Who the f&^k CARES if the Spyder gets no respect from a bunch of loser street racers???? Anyone that "earns" respect by street racing is fooling themselves. They need to get a clue and take it to the track where it's safe. They have it here in Memphis every Thursday night. It's like $20 or so to run as many times as you want. Safely and with NO OTHER CARS ON THE TRACK (except the one you are racing). Someone that races on the same streets that my daughter, my wife, my friends and family drive on is a total dipshit that deserves to lose their license and go to jail - period. No second chances. Just sell your Spyder. Stop racing on public streets before you kill yourself or worse, someone else. I don't want to hear that you do it on deserted roads or any of that - you never know when another car may pull out or show up. It's stupid and irresponsible, period. I'm through with this thread.

[Mr2Spyder2828]

Look - I will head down to memphis and run over your daughter and whoever I want then come back down here and race some more on the street. Suck my junk and shut the f&^k up!
ohh and dont reply.

[Mr2Spyder2828]

Check out this picture of James. stupid fu^k
http://www.midsouthspyders.com/photo...e=P1013054.JPG