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Old 04-02-2003, 03:21 AM
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me thinks this is purely a drivers race
I dont even want to touch the issue of ZC vs what ever cause im with Seth. Melt i think that our numbers are 105, and maybe the higher number if we go MPFI.

Either way, if the drivers dont know how to race then its a matter of who has more skill. Its like stock car racing ... When everything is the same, its all on the driver. We dont have full specs on each car and can only get guesses and what someone remembers. Any knowledge of having ownzoring ANYONE in any of the two conditions doesnt really apply cause again the driver is one of the biggest variables in racing. So the only way to really guage the match up of ZC vx Y8 is to build to engines EXACTLY alike and see what kinda specs they pull on a dyno i guess. Now this is a challenge since each is kinda diffrent and you cant really put the same of anything on each. So unless someone is willing to do this test ... lets all just forget about it and be happy ...
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Old 04-02-2003, 07:46 AM
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i just got back from the garage and the car won't start and i have really weird compression. like 120,125,210,and 70 so old dudes y8 would prolly beat me. i got my motor from hmotoronline so i will have to put new rings in it. GHEY. but i'm still gonna race em and i have built domestic motors that have exceeded 900 ft /lb torque
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Old 04-02-2003, 08:05 AM
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weak!! Haha, too bad about the motor Jayce. All will be well, sometime.
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heheheh yea it sucks but hopefully i'll get it in a couple of days. i need it by sat because i gots to pimp the hoes bitch. girls love primered cars


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heheheh yea it sucks but hopefully i'll get it in a couple of days. i need it by sat because i gots to pimp the hoes bitch. girls love primered cars
Your shit is primered agian? I thought you repainted it once already.
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Old 04-02-2003, 10:58 AM
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yea but i got it done at a crappy place and it wasnt' good paint, and now that i paint cars i can get a $4000 paintjob for like 400 bux.
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Old 04-02-2003, 10:59 AM
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oh aight thats cool then
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poopy conversation, I love both motors in very different ways.

ok I understand Seth's P.O.V, but the ZC is not really the GOD of d series.... they are getting older and if they have not had a rebuild I see it would be hard for the zc, to beat a newer y8....


but again seth is right with the 4-2-1 header design he was trying so hard to accomplish...this is 100% true.. I had one on my car...


why not have best of both worlds im actually mounting a d16y8 head to my sohc zc block.....hahaha best of both worlds =)


btw, seth and y8ers esp : LadyNRedSI, I have watched similar moded cars (4th gens) runs against other 4thgens and usually the z6/y8 comes out stronger on top because of the "better flowing heads" vtec.......
so that can put a damper on the ZC.....
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SIvic...please don't take any of this seriously. the engines being referred to are very closely matched. it will come down to the driver and reaction time.....every time.

really this is just some friends harrassing eachother. :evillaugh
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SIvic...please don't take any of this seriously. the engines being referred to are very closely matched. it will come down to the driver and reaction time.....every time.

really this is just some friends harrassing eachother. :evillaugh

wurd everyone know i can whoop up on std's hatch....it's common since
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No but on the reals dog! The Dohc ZC flows WAY better then the Y8's.... Thats why they rwak for turbo's! The intake and exaust ports are way to big for the stock CR... I asked Larry to do a P&P job on my head he said "I wont port it, I will polish it and clean it up if you want... But honda gave those heads GENEROUSELY LARGE Intake and especialy exaust ports!
After he told me this I went and looked at my head, sure enough they are about the size of the B18b's
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damnit dude, you need to just stay home. First of all, polishing your intake side will only hender fuel atomization by making the atomized fuel stick the the port walls and turn into droplets and that will decrease your power. Genious. Secondly, the ZC is "better" for turbos because of the rod to stroke ratio. That is also how the ZC creates better torque. Better torque=more airflow lower in the RPM range which in turn will spool a turbo quicker. Please, just shut up already!!
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just so you know, I am just yanking your leg. I mean no harm. But what I just said in the last post is true.
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damnit dude, you need to just stay home. First of all, polishing your intake side will only hender fuel atomization by making the atomized fuel stick the the port walls and turn into droplets and that will decrease your power. Genious. Secondly, the ZC is "better" for turbos because of the rod to stroke ratio. That is also how the ZC creates better torque. Better torque=more airflow lower in the RPM range which in turn will spool a turbo quicker. Please, just shut up already!!
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Thanks for telling him dude, Ive been on here 2 days and seen nothing but worthless posts from this guy, I dont know much about hondas, so I shut up...... Like Seth needs to do. I almost said screw this place because he was the first person I came across and thought this place sucks, but its just him. Hes so damn 1 sided it makes me sick!
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I just think its gonna be funny when he has to pay lord knows how much to hot smog his shit, while he coulda got a b16a3 out of a del sol and got that shit all legalised and been able to smoke the zc.
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