Big 3 bail out?

[WickedNYCowboy]

Honestly the UAW in it's current form and regime has screwed up so bad, the head honchos and their lawyers should be in jails. I'm pretty pro-union myself.

[danielsatur]

States need to change Laws, ''Right-to-work State''

The union is already divided (States,unions,dem,and Rep),let workers decide to join!

Put Union dues into 401K instead, and let the dinosaurs die in peace.

They will make good fossil fuel,the BAD deficit spending will be over!

MCGIVER

[Papaws]

Right to work State,Any employee can be terminated at ant time for any reason.Must enployee don't have a say so.I managed a company that said right to work ment all documantion didn't need to be completed to terminate an employee.May have good points but this is not one.

[Davescort97]

Originally Posted by AutomotiveTech

The businesses themselves might still be doing OK (But it is obvious that they are not making cars that people want to buy), but with the unions involved their expenses are just too much. I just recently read a couple news stories about how these factory workers are making between $40 and $55 per hour! That does not include benefits. I also read one about how many of them who are laid off still get 95% of their pay...I wish I could sit at home and still make almost as much as I did when I was working.

Some make as much as $75 an hour. That's $3,000 a week. That's $150,000 a year. I only wish I could stand on an assembly line, do the same thing day in day out and make as much as the president of the United States only a few short years ago. With the cost of labor as it is, the auto companies have to make cuts in other areas....gives new meaning to quality control.

[WickedNYCowboy]

Originally Posted by Davescort97

Some make as much as $75 an hour. That's $3,000 a week. That's $150,000 a year. I only wish I could stand on an assembly line, do the same thing day in day out and make as much as the president of the United States only a few short years ago. With the cost of labor as it is, the auto companies have to make cuts in other areas....gives new meaning to quality control.

There's no need for the UAW to have it's members not in high management to be making 150k a year. It's plain outrageous.

[big white bufflo]

I WAS A UAW WORKER this is a subjuct that needs looking at im not defending the unions but i will say some valet point it hard to stnd on a line day after day doing the same thing thats why they get payed but it did get out of hand uaw pensions were payed by the companys were teamsters are payed through the locals if your a good worker you dont need a union but you get this company feel there paying you to much they get rid of you that happening rite now it not just union places it non union also corp greed and invester greed has taken over . companys cut back by sending job out of this contrie to make a bigger buck i cant blame them but with all that has gone on corprate america has bite the hand that fed them and as for the unions they do need to change there selling out the worker as we write this im not the lazy guy who didnt come to work or did not do my job i worked hard for my companyand the union turned there backs to us and sold us out no support no nothing and here i am no job THEY GOT THERE MONEY we could go on forever but have a very happy day

[ericn1300]

Originally Posted by WickedNYCowboy

There's no need for the UAW to have it's members not in high management to be making 150k a year. It's plain outrageous.

Show me a UAW worker making 150k. Toyota is paying it's working the same or better than the UAW.

Originally Posted by http://blogs.edmunds.com/straightline/2007/01/uaw-pay-advantage-no-longer-true.html

One of the "perks" to being a UAW member was higher salaries as compared to those at (import) factories. Now, according to the Detroit Free Press, that may no longer be true, as foreign automakers are offering bonuses. So the old UAW argument of higher salaries going to UAW workers is no longer a selling point in terms of joining the UAW.

For example, Toyota Motor Corp... gave workers at its largest U.S. plant bonuses of $6,000 to $8,000, boosting the average pay at the Georgetown, Ky., plant to the equivalent of $30 an hour. That compares with a $27 hourly average for UAW workers, most of whom did not receive profit-sharing checks last year.

[big white bufflo]

all that about the toyota worker is true but they dont have pensions they only 401k .The pensions is whats killing the big three .but over a year ago it was said that those import comanys where thinking of cutting the pay of the souther worker to what is conclusive of the area. That would bring most of them to 18 to 20 $ hour you watch that GM will file bankrupeci and give the pensions to the feds and gm retirees will get half of what they nomaly got like America airline did is that a union promise broken. There only looking out for them self did you know high up union officer get a pension from the uaw and there one from the big three is that RIGHT its looking out for them self you dont see them looking to cut there pay. UAW is in a survival mode