Radar/Laser detectors! - Page 4

Silencer_Nate · 09-15-2003, 05:16 PM

Well I dunno, it seemed to work for me...I'll have to look around and research it a bit more. I'm not buying another one anytime soon, so that's good...
What's your personal preferance to jammers? (what's the best IYO)

sfenton311 · 09-15-2003, 06:36 PM

if you're talking about radar jammers, from what I have read, "Except for the Phantom, which contains rudimentary radar-detection circuitry, each is essentially an empty box with a 12-volt power cord, a cheap cast-plastic waveguide assembly, one or two front-mounted LEDs, a basic power-supply circuit and a button or two." Jamming Ol' Smokey My brother had the "eclipse" which is mentioned in the article - and it was exactly that; an empty box. As far as the laser jammers, some seem to have performed exceptionally well. But stay away from Rocky Mountain Radar, just about everything they make seems to be worthless....

spy · 09-15-2003, 09:21 PM

I'll say it again.

To jam laser, you HAVE to have an "ACTIVE JAMMER."

These include the models Bel Laser Shifter (or something like that), Blinder M-10, and K-40 Laser Diffuser. No one else. That's it.

Now that is settled, as for radar, you can only jam X and K bands.

There are units out there that look like a big box (about as large as a glove compartment) and they DO jam the X and K bands because it is "ACTIVE" as well.

You CAN'T jam the Ka band because it is not a fixed frequency. The only way to achieve it would be to either steal some miliary hardware or get a laptop that doesn't exist yet and write the software to control the high output generator needed.

You simply just HAVE TO HAVE an "ACTIVE" jammer no matter what you want to jam. Active jammers are illegal. Passive jammers are not (GEE, I wonder why? Maybe because they don't work!).

~A

Decoy · 09-15-2003, 10:51 PM

why don't you guys just do the speed limit? or a bit over? Are you that desperate to race (not street race, i mean driving fast down the road for no reason at all but to look cool) to the next red light, or so shave off 10 seconds to a minute or so of time? So you can arrive early at your destination. I've seen countless times where someone goes speeding by me just to slam on his brakes at the red light just ahead of us. I laugh, because everytime they speed off like bats out of hell and i end up pulling up beside them at the next light

also, the cops sometimes don't keep there radars and lasers and whatever on all the time. You can come speeding by and a bit before you come by them they put on there radars. Your sensor goes insane but it's to late. Fine, jam the radar. But when the officer see's nothing, he'll be coming after you anyways. Then, when he pulls you over, you'll be stuck on the side of the road for a few minutes. And guess what.. there goes those precious minutes, more like seconds, you saved by speeding around. If he finds the jammer, uh oh. You are going to wish you had just done the speed limit.

It's also pretty useless if your racing. Believe me, if your doing 100mph down a road and you blow past a cop. He doesn't need that radar or laser to know your speeding. If he doesn't get you for speeding, he'll have you for racing. Which is worse

To be honest, i do sometimes speed inorder to get to my destination sooner. Not as much now, because it seems useless. I'll just leave a few minutes earlier and it saves me the trouble and worry. I have gone speeding down a street at 125+ kph when it was 50kph speed limit. So, i got home a few minutes earlier. I had to ask myself though, was it really worth risking my drivers licenses or even my life, just to save a few minutes?

-The Stig- · 09-15-2003, 11:20 PM

The best is when you're just cruising along at the speed limit on a street, and some guy goes flying past you.. only to get stopped in traffic at the next light. And the light turns green, and by the time you get there traffic is moving and you just continue on like its nothing... mean while laughing at speed racer.

It gets funnier the more times you can time the light, and just roll right past speed racer in traffic.

spy · 09-15-2003, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Decoy

why don't you guys just do the speed limit? or a bit over? Are you that desperate to race (not street race, i mean driving fast down the road for no reason at all but to look cool) to the next red light, or so shave off 10 seconds to a minute or so of time? So you can arrive early at your destination. I've seen countless times where someone goes speeding by me just to slam on his brakes at the red light just ahead of us. I laugh, because everytime they speed off like bats out of hell and i end up pulling up beside them at the next light

also, the cops sometimes don't keep there radars and lasers and whatever on all the time. You can come speeding by and a bit before you come by them they put on there radars. Your sensor goes insane but it's to late. Fine, jam the radar. But when the officer see's nothing, he'll be coming after you anyways. Then, when he pulls you over, you'll be stuck on the side of the road for a few minutes. And guess what.. there goes those precious minutes, more like seconds, you saved by speeding around. If he finds the jammer, uh oh. You are going to wish you had just done the speed limit.

It's also pretty useless if your racing. Believe me, if your doing 100mph down a road and you blow past a cop. He doesn't need that radar or laser to know your speeding. If he doesn't get you for speeding, he'll have you for racing. Which is worse

To be honest, i do sometimes speed inorder to get to my destination sooner. Not as much now, because it seems useless. I'll just leave a few minutes earlier and it saves me the trouble and worry. I have gone speeding down a street at 125+ kph when it was 50kph speed limit. So, i got home a few minutes earlier. I had to ask myself though, was it really worth risking my drivers licenses or even my life, just to save a few minutes?

Hmm, that's funny because I have never street raced a day in my life. I resent your assumption that I need the jammers to street race.

I have all my detectors and jammers because I like to drive fast on the freeway at night. I don't see a problem with this as I am the only one on a straight road that is meant for high speeds.

Even if I got pulled over, the cop would have no proof of my speed and he can't search my vehicle without a warrant. He'd have to tell me to show up at an inspection facility and by that time I'd have the jammer off the car.

~A

Silencer_Nate · 09-16-2003, 02:18 AM

with spy. In many states cops have to show you proof of the radar readout (the speeder has the right to ask to see it). Therefore, if he cannot show it, then what's a judge going to do? No proof=no case

However, there are a few states that don't have that law...those ones suck

Decoy · 09-16-2003, 07:57 AM

Hehe, ya redneck. Whats even greater is when he's now stuck behind traffic that is doing near the speed limit

You can look in your rear view mirror and see the guy is starting to curse and is getting pissed off.

You guys misunderstood what i said. I never said you street race. I gave a bunch of different situations for the jammer/sensor being somewhat useless. For street racing at high speeds. And for cruising at high speeds. etc.

I don't mind people that cruise down freeways/expressways/highways at high speeds, heck, i do it once and a while ! I'm just talking about the people that feel the need to do 100 (mph or kph, doesn't matter, to fast) down the streets when it's not even near the speed limit. (If your speeding because you want to race. Do it at a track or some exclude street where hardly anyone if anyone goes. Then i can hopefully not hear the loud annoying fart cans flying around everywhere. Funny story. My friend lost his muffler when we was doing donuts. So we were driving around without it, very loud

but we were to lazy to put on another one. In no time he had people flashing their lights at us wanting to race. One comes (rice) and is like, "nice car man, it sounds great".

It's funny too, cause you can hear and see the ricers from a mile away. Their big glowing ground effects and their loud exhausts

)

Okay, in a way he does have proof of something. Not necessarily that your speeding, but that you have a jammer. Which is illegal in most places, aren't they? So we'll say a few cars go by and he clocks them. Then this one car comes by, looks like he's gone much faster then the rest (i'm assuming you'd be going faster then the rest to fill your need for speed. if your going 5 over or 10 over

i'm sure you doing much faster) and the cop thinks "i got me a speeder !" looks at his radar as this guy goes flying by. Nothing. then the cop thinks "i got me a speeder with a jammer !" I don't know about you, but thats good enough for a search.(since all they need is reasonable and probable grounds to suspect something illegal has or is happening) He isn't trying to get you for speeding, but rather a jammer. Which is most likely illegal and has a stiffer penatly then speeding. Even if your by yourself, the cop knows the speed most people travel. As their job involves watching traffic. Now it's pretty easy to tell whos speeding and who's not even when they are by themselves. So if he still sees nothing, then you still have a problem. Of course, laws can be different in places. But i'm assuming that's what would happen. Atleast, thats what i would end up doing. Say he does ask you to go to the inspection place, he might follow you. Cops aren't that dumb, they know your going to stash the thing the first chance you get.

I'm not trying to bash people who have jammers and everything. I'm just trying to point out more to the argument of if it's useful or not and if you should get it or not. You have to think more then just "yes, i can speed with out being caught" Ya, you won't get caught for speeding, you'll get caught for jamming

Of course, i didn't read most of the posts because it's to much reading. But i red page 3

And if your laws are messed up and you can get away with that stuff then just skip over this whole thing

well, to late for that. Just forget what i typed.

Neutrino · 09-16-2003, 08:51 AM

See if you guys would have a sweet Iroc Camaro with the special metal and would wash it and wax it everyday....cops would not be a problem

sfenton311 · 09-16-2003, 11:21 AM

Has anyone HERE (no stories of someone you know, everyone has heard a million of those) ever succeeded in building an active RADAR jammer, one that works? I've seen lots of plans, but I would be afraid I was just building a box with wires in it, or end up having my desktop computer sitting on my dash

It also seems that all of us who do use them (jammers/detectors), are basically better off just using a good detector for the radar, and if we have to worry about laser, then a shifter as well.

ScoobySnacks · 09-16-2003, 11:41 AM

Hey Everyone,

Do you guys/glas know if any of these radar/laser jammers will work in Canada, and if they do wich ones???

I have this really old school one from Craig...it sucks now and beeps for every little thing.

Any response would be appreciated.

Thx,

Scooby Doo

sfenton311 · 09-16-2003, 11:59 AM

I'm not a radar proffesional, but I would assume they get their equipment from the same place the US does. radar isn't like cell phone networks or something where every country has their own version. Although, since U.S. Ka-band radar units operate at 33.8, 34.7 and 35.5 GHz Cananda could be different. Just my 2 cents.

spy · 09-17-2003, 03:13 AM