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#46
02-25-2003, 08:22 PM
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hey kid buying a car, you are getting 20,000 and your buying a civic why? trying to be trendy? why not buy something nicer or something that not many people have not get a civic cause it is "cool"
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#47
02-25-2003, 08:28 PM
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why the fuck you guys flaming these auto drivers for ? its there choice to drive an auto, theres nothing wrong with that. driving an auto is cool, its kickback. auto times are more consistent anyways, an auto is better for drag racing. dotn say anyone is stupid just because they dont agree with you, what you should be saying is, hey you have an auto thats cool, i personally would have gone standard, and thats it. dotn flame unless you want me to start flaming you.
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#48
02-25-2003, 08:31 PM
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this is the most pathetic display of automotive discussion i have ever seen. first off, you have completely changed the topic. second, you are arguing over the dumbest issue. auto vs manual is the stupidest debate you can argue with (because from what has been said so far, none of you have said anything intelligent). and chill out with the hate. you are criticizing others' cars like you are the almighty import king and your opinion is superior to everyone else's. to each his own. damn i hate this shit... this is why everyone who actually had something to say has already left AF...
as for the ORIGINAL discussion, i think both are not very good deals. i bought a 97 EX two years ago for 10,000. I think you should be paying around the same price for a 99 (maybe 1-2k higher). i also agree that you should look into getting an Si. they have custom interior, power features, and smoke any EX you will find. but if i had to pick from one of the two you mentioned, i get the white one. stick is funner in my opinion, EVEN THOUGH MY CIVIC IS AN AUTO, and i think white would look nicer with the mods you are considering. good luck, let us know what happens!  GO HERE:Kelly Blue Book Click that link and choose "Used Car Retail" on the left. Type in all the specificaions for the civic you are looking at and get an estimated price. (I got something like 11,520 when i did a 99ex with 57k miles) print that page out and take it to the dealership and see what happens. thats what i did when i got my car and i saved $2,000 
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#51
02-25-2003, 09:49 PM
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oh how sweet, the automatic brothers are ganging up on emilio now. but dont worry emilio, edman is here!!
it has already been said that two cars of equal power and weight but with auto and stick trannies race eachother, the stick will always win. this is true my friends no matter how consistent the auto may be. yah a car could be consistent in times but that could also mean consistent 18's in the quarter mile  not to mention that stickshift is cheaper, easier to maintain, lasts longer, easier to mod, and puts out better times then any auto tranny. yes Benz's have very good auto trannies, in fact the best in the market (made by ZF, very good company) but we're not talking about benz's. yah my cousins bmw 540 auto would destroy any civic i know of and your moms benz too. its got 18's too but thats a bimmer. this is a HONDA forum so lets stay on topic. fact is no matter what auto tranny you have, you can not launch the car at a high enough rpm without severely damaging internal components all over the car not just the tranny. plus autos have a heavier driveline and create more unsprung AND sprung weight. i hope you guys know what those are. so any way you slice it, auto may be cool for cruising, but will never beat a manual in a race. and im not saying a stock stickshift civic could beat an auto lexus IS300 for one example, but it could beat other automatic civics with similar if not more modding done to them. get my drift. in my eyes, slammedcivic, you and your little buddy just got owned. i originally wasnt trying to make a pissing match from this but hey, you guys started it so i figured i should end it.:bandit:
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#52
02-25-2003, 10:02 PM
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ok i got a few things to say now
First, edman24, thanks for better explaining my point bro, all of hte things u said are true about manual automatic and so on.... second, i also agree with Emerge to some extent, even tough he practically dissed everyone by saying that no intelligence was present from looking at these posts.... i agree with the fact that this discussion should have never happened, that the differences between auto/manual are so damned obvious that its pointless bringing the theme up again. But some people's stupidity simply pisses me off, comments like "emilio has a manual thats why hes the fastest" or "cuz i have an auto im ricey". thats not what i was trying to say at all, but people dont understand basic concepts. third, as edman24 said, lets stay on topic, this is about CIVICS not benz's or BMW's. Those cars have enuff power to be able to afford to put in an auto tranny, and not worry about loss of HP. Also, the targeted market is that of older wealthier people for the most part, who would also like to have some luxury in their sports car.... Now CIVICS are neither luxurious, nor cruising cars to me. They are either for groceries or for the poor college student who likes simplicity and reliability and also likes to experiment and maybe go a little faster. CIVICS are not powerfull at all, and all the extra HP u can get u NEED. U know, ppl put in air intakes and exhausts to get some miserable 2-3 hp, and yet they have an auto tranny that kills 10-15% of the HP at the wheels. It just defeats the purpose, unless of course u need a grocery-getter. And if u want cruisin, why dont u get a cadillac then or somethin? I hope this finally makes more or less sense to EVERYONE, and puts an end to all flaming in this thread
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#53
02-25-2003, 10:22 PM
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you just said it yourself, the standards only good if you race, what if you dont race, then an auto is perfect, like it was mentioned before, if your only going show then an auto is perfect. if you dont race then an auto is better than a standard.
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#54
02-26-2003, 03:04 AM
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LOL, wow this post is funny... all i got to say is I would NEVER EVER drive an automatic!!!!
 They are no fun.... ill be driving a standard til i die...... you guys with autos have no idea what your missing out on.
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#55
02-26-2003, 06:13 AM
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to all his own, sticks are fun to drive, my other car is a stick , does that mean its better than my 99 civic?
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02-26-2003, 06:26 AM
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Re: Hey SPARQ
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 i suggest next time you start talking shit about someone you atleast have a clue who your talking about?my friend has a 93dx.. does that make him so also? and to finish off off this topic. i would'nt pay more then $10,000 for a 99 civic unless it's an si. and if you do your a fucking idiot end of story :finger:
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#57
02-26-2003, 06:31 AM
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so let's backtrack a few pages
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#58
02-26-2003, 06:56 AM
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exactly i said whats wrong with autos , is that saying something bad to anyone?
am i flaming anyone? is that talking shit b/c i asked a question? anyway think what you think auto=pussy thats cool.
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02-26-2003, 07:00 AM
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02-26-2003, 09:12 AM
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