2002 CL-S or 2002 MAXIMA ????

[mattattax]

the 2k2 auto max is running 14.5s stock (one guy got 14.4s) and from what iv'e read on CL forums, the CLType-S has been running 14.7s--they are both great cars but i'd say the max is a tad faster--as for the Altima, it was rated Car of the Year by MT, i'd say this is a little higher than the accord was ranked but it means nothing to me, magazines print what sells, period, anyone who relies on a magazine for ratings or times obviously isn't a car enthusiest--BTW does anyone know what the CL-S has dynoed at, the auto max is about 200 stock--maxima all the way but different strokes for different folks

[F20C]

Accord has been voted 15 times into Car and Driver Car of the Year now that's consistency.

You do know MT is the worst car magazine out there. What is that THUNDERBIRD doing up there on car of the year poll.

[mattattax]

re-read my post--good for the accord, it's a great car for the $$, i'm just saying magazines MT, Car & Driver, SCC, whatever, they're all worthless when it comes to testing and ranking cars if you're a car enthusiest--oh, and thanks for the prime example (the THUNDERBIRD) as to why any and all magazines views should be taken with a grain of salt (or less), the thunderbird, ha ha ha

[mattattax]

oh and

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=94166

[89lxihb 00lude]

that car is modified. Of coarse it's going to be fast and thats the 6 speed not the auto. The auto won't be any faster than 15's. The Type-S run 14.7's with a auto and teh 6 speed will be here in a few weeks. Then we'll see who's the big dog.

[joeB]

Im not wrong, but still the Maxima will still be the better
car.

[joeB]

Originally posted by F20C
Accord has been voted 15 times into Car and Driver Car of the Year now that's consistency.

You do know MT is the worst car magazine out there. What is that THUNDERBIRD doing up there on car of the year poll.

The Accord has been for Car and Driver, so for you,

car and driver is good cause it prizes on your car, but then

Motor Trend is bad cause they gave the Maxima Car of the

Year in 95, all the many magazines, and even motor week

say the the Maxima has the best V-6 in the world.

[mattattax]

yes it was a 6 sp. and yes it was the guy's first time at the track but he only had an intake (dmbmaxima88, not the guy that started the thread, scroll down a bit and check his sig)--i totally agree that when comparing the max and the cl-s we should use the max auto, but 15s, please, where did you READ that, appearently you chose not to read the consistent UNMODDED AUTO 2k2 maxes getting 14.5 and one guy got 14.44 with just a filter (no intake), all having timeslips to prove--if you don't believe me go to 5th Gen at http://forums.maxima.org/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=10 or for Honda's take on it even at:
http://forums.clubsi.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/014985.html


quit quoting magazines, i never said anything about being the "big dog"--the cl-s is a bigger dog in several aspects and the max is in others, quarter mile track times is one where the max is a wee better, no big deal, just quit lying about it

if you still think the 2k2 AUTO Maxima does 15s, then i dub you as a magazine racer and not a car enthusiest--sorry this is so long, i just can't stand when people lie or quote a magazine time--both are excellent cars for the $$$ stop the flames

[89lxihb 00lude]

The 6spd guy has RSTB I would assume that is a Throtle Body. A free flow cat isn't anything to sneeze at also. As for the autos who knows what that other guy on the time slip had under the hood. Your stock right? Have you run yours lets see a slip. Not trying to be a jerk it's just that I've driven the car and it's not that fast. I sell Acuras and the Type-S fells alot faster. I also haven't seen any slips on the Type-S'.

[F20C]

Originally posted by joeB
Im not wrong, but still the Maxima will still be the better
car.

List out all the points stating why Maxima is better. I would like to see why Maxima is better in your mind.

[F20C]

Originally posted by joeB


The Accord has been for Car and Driver, so for you,

car and driver is good cause it prizes on your car, but then

Motor Trend is bad cause they gave the Maxima Car of the

Year in 95, all the many magazines, and even motor week

say the the Maxima has the best V-6 in the world.

You are trying to take my quote out of context. mattattax was talking about magazine poll voting Maxima for car of the year. I was merely stating the fact Accord has been a consistent car of the year contestant. I don't even drive an Accord why would I care? I just got tired of all these BS flying in this thread. I think you were trying to say Ward Magazine that said VQ30 was the best V6.

Side note compare the magazine and you will find Car and Driver is more performance based than Motor Trend.

[mattattax]

MT and car and driver are both lame mags that know little about cars and a lot about BUSINESS, they print what sells, sometimes truth, usually BUSINESS--i haven't seen any cl-s timeslips either, i just read what the general concensus at cl forums is and it seems 14.6-14.8 is about average for stock (and when they say their stock i trust 'em) and i do the same for maximas--i definitly don't think you're a jerk for asking for one of my timeslips but i haven't gotten to the track yet, i am planning on going in a few weeks with 2 other 2k2 maxima autos, by then i'll have a vb mod, frankencar stage 3 intake, and maybe a tc, but soundmike (one of the ones going) is bone stock and we will be sure to post slips of all the runnings--feels faster and is faster are 2 different things, i look at average timeslips reported on forums for the stock cars not what a magazine says--the 14.44 auto max had only a filter but also had a full trunk with tools and a half tank of gas
this thread is NOT full of BS, i believe it's very informing--do you really want me to list points why the maxima is better? niether is better, each has its better points, all i'm trying to say is that the max is a little faster in the 1/4, and obviously doesn't run 15s, who knows maybe the cl-s would win in a 1/2 mile race--

if someone asks me which one is better, i ask them a few questions about what's important to them, speed, looks, comfort, warranty, how the tranny shifts, ect anyone who sells cars should know this--for my interests and taste the maxima is better, for someone else the cl-s may blow the max outta the water, it's a matter of opinion
i really do wanna see a cl-s dyno though
peace,
matt

[F20C]

They print what sells but more performance oriented than lame MT.

If you read from the start of this thread till the end you will find a lot of BS from various person.

[01InspireTypeS]

LETS STOP ALL THIS BICKERING!!!!!!! JEEZ, ITS UP TO WHAT CAR YOU LIKE, MOST PEOPLE ARE BIASED HONDA VS. NISSAN, BUT ITS REALLY YOUR CHOICE AND WHAT YOU LIKE. MOST OF THE GUYS AT MY FIRM DRIVE CL'S AND BENZ'S , YES THE CL CAN SIT RIGHT NET TO THE BIG BOYS WITHOUT A SECOND THOUGHT.

Now as for the Automatic 2k2 maxima's doing 15's stock... , My wife has a 2k2 Maxima, and I have a 2k1 CL type S... Granted 0-60 I feel ALOT faster, the Maxima is in fact faster than my car, whoopdeedoo! I feel more comfortable in my CL in the curves and around town.
I've taken both cars to the local track,
and YES THE MAXIMA IS FASTER.

14.698 - 14.72 constant times with the Mad Max STOCK (2300 MILES)
14.859 - 14.75 constant times with the CL type S, (11,000 miles) I think the Navi is slowing me down, and YES , the wife has a Navi also.

about 3510 lbs for my CL-S and 3275 lbs for the Maxima GLE.
Now in the corners I'll see the Maxima go DOWN IN A BURST OF FLAMES!

My point:
Drive what you Love, Not what others love or wish they HAD.

[joeB]

[quote]Originally posted by F20C


List out all the points stating why Maxima is better. I would like to see why Maxima is better in your mind. [/QUOTE



I agree with you that Car&Driver is the better magazine, ( I
have stacks of them since 1988). I dont think its that much
better than Motor Trend. If you want to know why I think the
Maxima is better here are some- 7 years best V-6 in a row,
more room, better looks. I think the Maxima is faster too.
My point Im trying to make is in 95 when the VQ came out,
there where just about no other car class and price range that
could touch it, luxury or performance. But now today there is...
My other reason why I think that its "probably" better is I have
a 98 Maxima SE that has 181,000 miles, and Ive only had to put
tires and brakes front and back one time. (Its probably about due
for new ones soon),. Also a tuneup at 110,000, oil changes ect...
and it still run like it was new. Those are my opionions why I
think its better, and that still doesnt make it so, thats just my
opinion, everyone each to their own. But lets all be honest here,
the Max is faster as of now, but I do think when the Acura gets its
6-speed it will be faster. Honda would be my next pick, but I like
Nissan better for overall quality and performace...Sorry for this being
so long guys, and dont let it get to you so much what people say in here.