Which new car should I buy a SRT-4, WRX sti, Lancer EVO?

[Conra94]

I got to admit the WRX and Evo are damn good lookin cars, but if i can save 13k, the amount of customized work i can do to the SRT-4 is limitless. I can make it look how I CHOOSE not how the manufacturer decides, interior, rims, body kit, suspension, paint, you name it i got 13k to work with

[Polygon]

Originally posted by R32's Kick ass
i have to agree with TatII an about the ferrari an evo can beat a f355 and a modena down a strait(same with the subie) i should no my neighbour owns a evo3 gsr and he has beaten a f355 with three ppl in his car!!!(just goes to show how crap sum ferrari's are) but u cant compere a sports car to A supercar. f355 istn exactly a supercar neither is a modena. and awd will always beat fwd for handeling and takin of down a strait.

Ferrari crap?!?! That wins the ignorant statement of the month award. The F355 if the cheapest Ferrari and I don't they are even manufacturing it right now. Sure they can beat the Modena on the straight but they can't touch it on the track, it was built for a different purpose. Supercar slayers, hmm, let’s see them stay by the likes of the Mclaren F1, Ferrari Enzo, Lamborghini Murcielago, Dodge Viper, and the likes. Not even the mighty Skyline can't hold a candle to the likes of these cars. As for AWD drive being better for the straight? Why is it that all top fuel drag cars are RWD, same for Funny and Pro Stock?

You have a lot to learn before making statements you nothing about, magazine ricer.

[Neutrino]

Originally posted by TatII
. they are purpose built rally cars. they car quick in many ways. on certain tracks with certain drivers, it can keep up if not beat a ferrari. and when i say certain, i don't mean dirt course. i'm talkin about small tight dry circuit. and if they can't beat the ferrari. they can easily keep up no problem.

Ok tatII i really hope you are joking about this cuz otherwise i'll be very disapointed....

Originally posted by R32's Kick ass
i have to agree with TatII an about the ferrari an evo can beat a f355 and a modena down a strait(same with the subie) i should no my neighbour owns a evo3 gsr and he has beaten a f355 with three ppl in his car!!!(just goes to show how crap sum ferrari's are) but u cant compere a sports car to A supercar. f355 istn exactly a supercar neither is a modena. and awd will always beat fwd for handeling and takin of down a strait.

how crap some ferrari are???and yes the modena and the 355 are not supercars they are sports cars. Especially the modena is a pure bred sports car. The 355 is more or a gran tourer/sport car.

Let me put it simple the modena and ferraris in general are totally superior cars way out of the sti/evo league.

So stop quoting straight line numbers cuz i can make a civic or an cavalier to beat a ferrari in a straight line and i hope you will not consider them better than a ferrari and btw the best setup for drag racing is RWD not AWD.

And don't say i'm biased cuz I actually love the evo in particular.I am actually considering buying one. But i still would never even considering in the same league with ferrari.

[TatII]

so Neutrino you mean to tell me that a evo or a STi can not keep up a F355 in a small 1 mile track. as we all know, those kind of tracks mostly consist of tight hair pin turns, and very short straights. those are the same scenarios in a rally course. so thats when the super short gearing of the evo and sti will shine. there for our favorite little 4 doors can keep up if not beat a ferrari. but of course once, the course gets bigger and there are longer straight sweeps with longer straights, then you can kiss the STi good bye, but the evo 7 will still be able to keep up within a .5-.6 of a second for each lap time. i've seen this already on videos. and the logic is right. i mean the evo's and sti's are explosive until they hit 120mph thats when they start to lose steam. where as the ferrari has extreme highend, but it won't be able to take advantage of it in tight courses. you get hte drift? *no pun intended*

[Neutrino]

Originally posted by TatII
so Neutrino you mean to tell me that a evo or a STi can not keep up a F355 in a small 1 mile track. as we all know, those kind of tracks mostly consist of tight hair pin turns, and very short straights. those are the same scenarios in a rally course. so thats when the super short gearing of the evo and sti will shine. there for our favorite little 4 doors can keep up if not beat a ferrari. but of course once, the course gets bigger and there are longer straight sweeps with longer straights, then you can kiss the STi good bye, but the evo 7 will still be able to keep up within a .5-.6 of a second for each lap time. i've seen this already on videos. and the logic is right. i mean the evo's and sti's are explosive until they hit 120mph thats when they start to lose steam. where as the ferrari has extreme highend, but it won't be able to take advantage of it in tight courses. you get hte drift? *no pun intended*

ok i see what you are sayig and i agree up to one point. In certain types of racing the results can be different. Againts a f355 yeah they would have more of a chance too but the 355 is more of a grand tourer that pure sports car on the other hand a ferrari like the 360 is a different story handling of a modena on a track course is just so much superior.

In your original post you just said ferrari and not specify which one so one can asume you included the enzo or the modena which can rape the 355 on a track

Then again on a rally couse the result would be very diferent indeed.

[TatII]

of course i wouldn't be stupid enough to compare a evo to a F40-50 and even the enzo. then it would be just pure murder for the japanese car.

[benroliver]

U people are crazy, none of those cars will touch a 360 modena, not even close that car runs low 12's. The subaru will be in the 13's and im not sure about the mitsu, and as for the neon, why would you even think about it. I read a think on the neon, the boost varies up to 14lbs, thats rediculously high boost for such a slow car. It leaves no room for improvement, plus the fact that its front wheel drive. Stick with the sti, its a good car, but my money is with a 400 plus stock 03 mustang cobra, that will smoke em all :hehe:

[R32's Kick ass]

umm no. the evo could take on a mustang down a strait and would absolutly piss over it on a track.(as long as the strait isn't too big) and if u took em both to a rally well the mustang doesn't even have a slitest chance.
and about the 360 that negotiable. and about the drag cars being rear weel drive thats because its based on weight they want the least weight posible so no 4wd and if u look at it u realise that everythin is around the wheels so it can taked off fast with out doin a big burnout.(and look at the tiers they are fkn huge)that goes for funi an top fuel):apoke:

[Conra94]

heres a link to the dyno numbers on a new SRT-4
People are sayin that its underrated from the factory, these numbers confirm that, completely stock SRT-4
220Hp
247ft/lbs tq

thats at the wheels

thats gotta be at the crank 245hp 265ft/lbs tq

for 17k UNBELIEVABLE!!





http://home.tampabay.rr.com/blackcat/dyno.htm

Heres what Car & Driver said about the SRT-4

http://www.neons.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=81888

[Conra94]

heres a vid of a WRX vs. SRT-4

http://staff.tcu.edu/jaltschul/SRT-4vsWRX_vs_Talon.WMV

[MattyG]

I actually have 2 videos on my computer that seem relevant to this discussion....they could be "best motoring" videos, I am not sure as they are all in Japanese.

1st race is a 5-way JDM Spec shootout, heres how they finish after five laps of a racing circuit:

1. Skyline R34GTR
2. Mitsubishi Evolution VII

3. Honda NSX
4. Subaru Impreza STi

5. Mazda RX7 (way back).

2nd race is the top 2 from Japan vs a 360 Modena, a Corvette of some kind, and a Porsche 911 turbo

Same circuit, placings (from my rusty memory) were:

1. Porsche 911 Turbo
2. Nissan Skyline R34 GTR
3. Mitsubishi EVO VII
4. Ferrari Modena
5. Corvette

From memory, the cars seemed quite evenly matched down the straights, with the exception of the Porsche which had a clear advantage. The RWD cars were destroyed in the corners by all of the AWD cars though....in the end the 3rd-4th gap was quite large.

[TatII]

mattyG you forgot about the nsx in that race. the nsx type S zero was 4th. it was behind the evo 7 and was in front of the modena.

[MattyG]

oops my bad (memory), thanks.

[Neutrino]

Originally posted by MattyG
I actually have 2 videos on my computer that seem relevant to this discussion....they could be "best motoring" videos, I am not sure as they are all in Japanese.

1st race is a 5-way JDM Spec shootout, heres how they finish after five laps of a racing circuit:

1. Skyline R34GTR
2. Mitsubishi Evolution VII

3. Honda NSX
4. Subaru Impreza STi

5. Mazda RX7 (way back).

2nd race is the top 2 from Japan vs a 360 Modena, a Corvette of some kind, and a Porsche 911 turbo

Same circuit, placings (from my rusty memory) were:

1. Porsche 911 Turbo
2. Nissan Skyline R34 GTR
3. Mitsubishi EVO VII
4. Ferrari Modena
5. Corvette

From memory, the cars seemed quite evenly matched down the straights, with the exception of the Porsche which had a clear advantage. The RWD cars were destroyed in the corners by all of the AWD cars though....in the end the 3rd-4th gap was quite large.

yes i've seen some of those japanese videos an they all end up the same japanese cars murdering european or american cars.

i'm sorry but i'm more and more sckeptical about those videos. If japanese enginessring is so much better how come the world's major races are won by either american and european cars

eg. F1; paris-dakkar, le mans ETC...

and dont call me a japanese import hater cuz the tro cars i'm cosidering are thye g35 coupe or the new evo. I love japanese cars but they are not as superior above everything else as many people seem to think.

[dayna240sx]

Originally posted by Neutrino


yes i've seen some of those japanese videos an they all end up the same japanese cars murdering european or american cars.

i'm sorry but i'm more and more sckeptical about those videos. If japanese enginessring is so much better how come the world's major races are won by either american and european cars

eg. F1; paris-dakkar, le mans ETC...

and dont call me a japanese import hater cuz the tro cars i'm cosidering are thye g35 coupe or the new evo. I love japanese cars but they are not as superior above everything else as many people seem to think.

Dont yell at me if I'm wrong, but didn't they have to ban the 787B from le mans cause it was killing all the AMERICAN and EUROPEAN cars?

And have you ever tried to drag launch a wrx? Kinda difficult.

Its not all about straight line racing. Anyone can drive a car straight... The Evo and STi are going to handle a lot better than the neon. And personaly, I'd much rather be seen in an STi than a girly neon.