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Old 04-16-2004, 02:43 PM
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Sure, one of the finest handling mid-engined sports cars in existence should be dropped.

Im just about had enough of this. Yes, people buy Boxsters because they can't afford a 911. So what? People buy Imprezas because they cant afford a 996TT, does that make them bad cars? Drive a Boxster, then tell me it's crap. People who dont appreciate Boxsters are:
a) stupid
b) straight line freaks (which actually also qualifies under a)
Ok, lets clear this up, I'm not sure if you have ever heard of a Lotus Elise, but if your into handling, you should have! Its a small, mid-engine, rwd car, and the most expensive version, is still £2000 cheaper than a bog standard Boxter 2.7. The cheapest version, the 1.8 will get to 62 in 5.7 secs, but for £15k more, you’d rather buy an ugly, overweight, over priced Boxter 3.2 S that can do the same. Needless to say, the Elise 1.8 WTL-i 111R will do 0-62 in 4.9 seconds, and still returns a mpg of 32! These are figures that the Boxter has never even heard of.

So, if were into listing:

a) I have driven a friends Boxter 3.2 S, but at that point I had been driving my 996 Turbo coupe for 4 months when i was offered the chance of a drive in a Boxter. It was crap.

b) It was the first time I have ever driven a Boxter, which for someone that has owned 12 other Porsches, you might find unusual! I am what is known as a long term 911 fan, and with the experience that I have had with Porsche, I can tell you with confidence, that it is rubbish!

c) There are loads of cars out there that can crush a Boxter in more than one field! If you think that it is one of the best cars in the world, then you my friend need to get out more.

d) There’s no such word as “engined” and do you know of an apostrophe? Oh, sorry, I forgot, I’m stupid…

…And finally:

e) I'm not disputing that the Boxter can handle. But that’s about all it can do, and for the record, I watched the S2000 paste the Boxter at Castle Combe race way. LOOK IT UP, AND THEN YOU CAN TALK ABOUT STRAIGHT LINES, AND THE "SUPERB" HANDELING CAPABILITIES OF THE "BEST" MID-ENGINED CAR IN THE WORLD!!!
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Old 04-17-2004, 08:37 AM
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Ok, lets clear this up, I'm not sure if you have ever heard of a Lotus Elise, but if your into handling, you should have! Its a small, mid-engine, rwd car, and the most expensive version, is still £2000 cheaper than a bog standard Boxter 2.7. The cheapest version, the 1.8 will get to 62 in 5.7 secs, but for £15k more, you’d rather buy an ugly, overweight, over priced Boxter 3.2 S that can do the same. Needless to say, the Elise 1.8 WTL-i 111R will do 0-62 in 4.9 seconds, and still returns a mpg of 32! These are figures that the Boxter has never even heard of.
Yes, of course i know of Elises, but the concept is somewhat different to that of a Boxster, i.e. completely stripped out, and aimed at a different market. An Elise can't really be used as an every day car, the Boxster can.

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a) I have driven a friends Boxter 3.2 S, but at that point I had been driving my 996 Turbo coupe for 4 months when i was offered the chance of a drive in a Boxter. It was crap.
Sure, you must like to squeeze the throttle on your Turbo and watch the world fly by. Cheap thrills. A Boxster S is a better driver's car than the 996 Turbo, which takes care of everything for you when you run out of talent. The 996TT is a great car, but you sound like another 911 snob to me.

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I am what is known as a long term 911 fan, and with the experience that I have had with Porsche, I can tell you with confidence, that it is rubbish!
Like i said, 911 snob. It's my favourite car, but the fact you drive a Turbo shows you didnt even pick the right model. Sad, for someone who thinks he knows cars

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c) There are loads of cars out there that can crush a Boxter in more than one field! If you think that it is one of the best cars in the world, then you my friend need to get out more.
In terms of handling, yes. Let me guess, your understeering Turbo handles better, right?
And besides, the Boxster can teach many supercars twice its price a thing or two about chassis set-up, steering feel...

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d) There’s no such word as “engined” and do you know of an apostrophe? Oh, sorry, I forgot, I’m stupid…
If this is the kind of exchange you're interested in, yes, you are stupid. 'Mid-engined', 'rear-engined', 'front-engined'. Those are all correct terms. If you knew anything about cars you would have heard these terms. By the way, your 996 Turbo falls under the rear-engined category.
And it's spelt Boxster not Boxter. If you're going to be so anal about things, i should point out that "returns a mpg of 32" isnt the most correct english ive ever seen either. "Returns 32 miles to the gallon" is more correct. Feel free to take notes, i dont usually educate for free.

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e) I'm not disputing that the Boxter can handle. But that’s about all it can do, and for the record, I watched the S2000 paste the Boxter at Castle Combe race way. LOOK IT UP, AND THEN YOU CAN TALK ABOUT STRAIGHT LINES, AND THE "SUPERB" HANDELING CAPABILITIES OF THE "BEST" MID-ENGINED CAR IN THE WORLD!!!
A Boxster S has 260bhp and handles as well as anything out there. That's a pretty appealing formula to me. But like i said, stick to your straight line kicks and AWD that makes corners easy. Not everyone knows how to drive. And as for the S2k, the original model didnt have the best chassis in the business, the new one is said to be a big improvement. The point is different drivers achieve different lap times. And i couldnt care which one's quicker around a track. The S2k would have been packing an extra 30-40bhp anyway over a standard Boxster.

And oh yeah, it's handling not handeling. Retard.

And i thought there was no such word as mid-engined. You used it in your last line. The word retard springs to mind, yet again.

This thread's been around long enough, you havent brought anything of value into it, i think we'll call it a day.
 
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