Srt-4

[IntakeMan]

True its reliability has not been proven though i believe the way dodge works, there should be no problem with that. Its gas mileage is not all that horrible, it gets about 23-25 city, and close to 30 highway. I personally dont like the look of a wrx, and we have allready proven they are not any faster than an srt. Plus everyone has WRXs, SRTs are still pretty rare, you dont see many of them, its like honda civics, everyone has them. WRXs are just way too common. Be original!

[PenfieldVBall5]

You know what, you're absolutely right. I will get one, probably by mid-July. But I want one that isn't that ugly yellow. The closest silver and red ones are over 200 miles from me according to the dodge wensite, that makes me angry, but it will be worth the trip...If only these things has moonroofs.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by Mallet
5-6 years ago neaon r/t were the scca rage and turbo were madee for them and all.. .. tel me were are they now.. i don't see any hi po Neon r/t ant more ( quality).

You obviously haven't been looking. Turbo 1st gens are usually faster than the SRT-4. As a matter of fact, you put the SAME turbo in a say 99 Neon R/T and it will indeed be faster than the SRT-4. Dodge just came out with MOPAR turbo kits for both 1st and 2nd gen Neons. I've seen turbo 1st gen Neons beat Vipers and Vettes, and Stangs.

the Wrx will lower its price due to the introductin of the STI and the WRX as it is is a World raly champion car.. the noen is anothwer in a vain attemp to capitlize on it hpp..

The Neon is a SCCA racing champion, and was from the start, designed to be so.

quality engineering and most of all lasting without breakng down.. becaus you will mod it and the waarrantte wiill be viod.. and as my good friend spyk has told me countless times.. he's drive both and in heat sensitive areas.. the Srt4 bleeds mor hp and accelaration than does the Wrx i just wonder if you took the muffler off the Wrx wht the difference would be since the Srt4 doesn't have mufflers

Maybe change it 5-6hp. Still wouldn't beat a SRT. I have also have a video of a SRT with a stage 2 upgrade (still street legal, still under warrenty) beating a Vette. He ran the quarter in the upper 12s.

remeber its still a neon.. girls car smily face.. ad they don''t look good they look like rice all the way !

Oh puhlease, I have heard the girl car comment about EVERY car made. It just comes off sounding like sour grapes. BTW learn to type please, I usually don't complain about such things, but I actually had a hard time understanding all of your post.

Originally posted by maxspeedhonda
I have to but in on this one. My girl drives a plain old 2002 dodge neon, and from my experience with that car, I would never buy one.

The only 2nd gen Neon I would buy is the SRT. Not because of quality, but because of performance. Even the low end 1st gen Neons are faster than the 2nd gens.

My car is turbocharged also (have already taken down a couple of srt 4's)

Got any time slips or videos of that? I am curious.

and anyone that has a turbo car knows it mean tons of maitenance.

Unless of course the Turbo was specifically made for that car. Then it's not nearly as bad as doing it the 3rd party way.

So now I think, a 2002 neon with under 8000 miles has already defected a few parts, so what's going to happen to one that's turbocharged. I don't really care for the look of the neon either. With 20 grand, you could go out and buy a better car, swap the motor, turbo and make it alot faster than the srt 4.

And it would be a lot more expensive as well. With that money you could make the SRT even faster.

Originally posted by flylwsi


that's why it runs 14.2 in the quarter compared to 14.5ish?

Some guys over at neons.org have been getting solid 13.9s out of them stock.

Originally posted by lordvektra
I am quite impressed with the neon, going to look at one today even, but Im concerned about reliability. Dodge has never had a great track record much less on a blown engine. O

Actually Dodge has decent track records on turbo engines. The Daytona, Stealth, and the Laser all had good reps for their turbos as a whole.

Originally posted by flylwsi

i'm just amazed that everyone is focusing on straight line... and then claiming that the neon can't handle for shit.

is that b/c you've read that the wrx, sti, and evo can handle really well? is it b/c they are awd? what is it exactly?

has anyone taken a neon through the twisties yet?

and keep in mind that the neon didn't have it's own scca series b/c it didn't handle...

I've taken a 99 R/T through MANY twisties. If it's any indication of what the SRT handles like, there should be ZERO problems. Neons are KNOWN to handle in the corners. Esp the R/T and ACR models.

I wouldn't worry about those SRTs though. I would be worrying about all the new 1st gens that will be out there with the MOPAR distributed turbo for them.

The 1st gens are about 600lbs lighter than the SRT.

[IntakeMan]

As for the "twisties", road and track tested the srt-4 and did the slalom at 64.8mph compared to the wrx which ran a 62.8 mph.

[redimpss5]

i like those twisty numbers! but what is the sti slalom #?

[Neutrino]

Originally posted by flylwsi


i doubt the 7% was legitimate.

the best fwd drivetrains are still at about 15% loss...

which would put the srt4 at about 250ish hp...

even more realistically, since the avg fwd hp loss is closer to 20%... it's closer to 270... under rated...

and the tq is similar... puts down 240, but claimed at 250? that would put it damn near 300... hmm... not too shabby...

i'm just amazed that everyone is focusing on straight line... and then claiming that the neon can't handle for shit.

is that b/c you've read that the wrx, sti, and evo can handle really well? is it b/c they are awd? what is it exactly?

has anyone taken a neon through the twisties yet?

and keep in mind that the neon didn't have it's own scca series b/c it didn't handle...

actually several car magazines dynod' it and they all came up with the same result so it is authentic

[IntakeMan]

yeah the srt really does pull out 220 hp easily on a dyno.

And the sti does the 700ft slalom at 68.4 mph, the evo does it at 68.9 mph. Both are quite a step up from the srt at 64.8.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by IntakeMan
yeah the srt really does pull out 220 hp easily on a dyno.

And the sti does the 700ft slalom at 68.4 mph, the evo does it at 68.9 mph. Both are quite a step up from the srt at 64.8.

Put 5k worth of suspension upgrades in it and you better bet it will make those numbers. Remeber this is just a FWD making those numbers. One that costs less than $20k

[cali_cars]

what do you guys know about the mopar upgrades coming out for the srt? id like to get one, i just need to know about the upgrades.

[EncryptedMinds]

I'm really interested in the Mopar upgrades as well. Nothing like a factory warranty on mods.

[Neutrino]

Originally posted by EncryptedMinds
I'm really interested in the Mopar upgrades as well. Nothing like a factory warranty on mods.

well the coolest is the quaife lsd....i think it will be sold in mopar catalogs

[IntakeMan]

I am under the understanding that the 2004 srt will have lsd stock, but i dont know that for sure.

[StopTheRain]

Hey guys and girls..

I'm not one to argue about car vs. car and all that, personally I love my SRT-4 and there's "always a faster car" out there.

Anyways, about the upgrades and 2004 info..

Warranty issues are still in the gray areas for the Mopar Perforance stuff, seems to be that it depends on how cooperative a dealer you find. Stage 1 Turbo upgrade is already released (new injectors and PCM) for about $350. Not too bad.

2004 model DOES have LSD stock (which makes me sad, but I will get the LSD upgrade anyways). Also a moonroof is an option and there's some word about factory upgraded sound system with Kicker's (not 100% on that one yet). Oh, and the yellow is being replaced by blue, like the PT Cruiser.

Hmm.. I think that's all, at least all I can remember atm.

Edit: Almost forgot, just head over to srtforums.com and you can read all about everything.

[Scatch!]

Originally posted by PenfieldVBall5
I have managed to scrabble together up to $20,000 for a car. I was wondering if I should get an SRT-4 based on it's unproven reliability and estimatedly horrible gas mileage.

Oh, I don't know... The Neon platform is (despite what some think) reliable, and has any bugs worked out by now. The engine has been used for several years now with great success. The turbo upgrades they gave it just made it better. The transmission (NVG-850) was built for Euro diesel minivans, and is a proven unit. So, the big parts are proven to be reliable.

Originally posted by PenfieldVBall5
Could anyone tell me why I wouldn't just get a used WRX or RSX type-S?

I dunno. You want resale value or speed?

[SRT-4 guy]

I have managed to scrabble together up to $20,000 for a car. I was wondering if I should get an SRT-4 based on it's unproven reliability and estimatedly horrible gas mileage. Could anyone tell me why I wouldn't just get a used WRX or RSX type-S?

I just bought a SRT-4, and the reason they say it gets crappy gas mileage is because it has a small ass tank. I think its about 12 gallons as compaired to my 16 gallon tank in my 01 neon, or my 14 gallon tank in my 95 escort. Dodge saved weight in any way they can on this car, the front window are power, while the rear are manual. It has a small tank for less weight. I dont know what kinda gas mileage it gets cause I am always racing around, thats might be another reason why people say it gets crappy gas mileage. Its a good car, handles well in the twisties, probably not as good as the WRX but hey, its also not awd. The SRT-4 will out run a stock WRX, but the STI will out run the SRT-4, and the evo will out run an STI, but if you take the stock of the stock of the stock, the cheapest of the cheapest, the wrx will beat a lancer, and the SRT-4 will beat the wrx. Thats just how it goes, and for 10 grand more, I would buy an STI just cause that has been my dream car for years. but for the price, you cant beat a SRT-4. And Thats That!!