click it or ticket loophole?

[RickwithaTbird]

Originally Posted by '97ventureowner

That's a little harsh, don't you think? We had a customer in our shop many years ago that had medical problems and had some surgery. After the surgery, he had to take different medication which caused some weight gain,and his condition after the surgery limited his exercising capabilities compounding the problem. He was still in good condition to drive and fit behind the steering wheel, but his seatbelt was a lot tighter. He got a seatbelt extender which allowed him his freedom to drive and carry on with his life. He ended up improving his medical condition, got off of the meds that caused the weight gain, and lost most of the weight he had gained. Just because you are too big to fit into a standard seatbelt doesn't mean you are too fat to drive. I read an article last year where it said carmakers were going to start to add a little length to their safety belts, because of the growing size of the American population, and the standards that they use were out of date and needed to be changed to reflect current trends. People come in all shapes and sizes, and that shouldn't limit their ability to drive and lead a normal enough life. Opportunities abound for people with other handicaps to be able to drive such as amputees. Just because they also require "special equipment" to drive does that mean they shouldn't?

That's a rather long winded argument for fat people.

He got a seatbelt extender. end of story.

['97ventureowner]

Originally Posted by RickwithaTbird

That's a rather long winded argument for fat people.

He got a seatbelt extender. end of story.

It may be long-winded but the argument I outlined says it all in my last 3 sentences,"People come in all shapes and sizes, and that shouldn't limit their ability to drive and lead a normal enough life. Opportunities abound for people with other handicaps to be able to drive such as amputees. Just because they also require "special equipment" to drive does that mean they shouldn't?" If too many people think like that where will this country be down the road? There's too much negativity and stereotyping going on towards segments of our population that are "different" than ourselves.

[ec437]

Originally Posted by zx2guy

this just hit me, seat belts were actually an option on older cars right? so what if you get pulled over in a car like that? and to illaborate more on it. a friend of mine got pulled over the other day in his old escort ant he had his lap belt on but the shoulder motor is shot so he cant wear it. he got a ticket for it! does that even seem fair?

If your car didn't actually have belts when it was new then yeah. But his car had belts and they are broken so that is something he needs to get fixed. Usually the dealer will do it for free.

[Mr Wiggl3s]

Originally Posted by KustmAce

Things I have learned in this thread
4.) If you are too fat for a seatbelt fit, you are too fat to drive.

Im going to have to agree with the other guy, thats kinda mean there man. Im 6' 280, and by no means small, but what about all the football players out there like myself? Its a real hassel to drive with a seatbelt on in my towncar.
Theres a big black dude, who i donlt like much, hes 6'4 300, mostly muscle, what about that guy? To fucking bad?

[freakray]

Originally Posted by Mr Wiggl3s

Im 6' 280, and by no means small

And by USDA data, that puts you in the obese category

There's a pretty broad line between simply overweight and downright fat. I can sympathise with folks that are in a situation because of a disorder, but I have no sympathy for people that are just lazy.

And FYI, I know a guy that's 6'-7" and hits the scale at 370lbs, and that's something different because he is muscle! Hell, it should be since he's a NFL OT.

[Mr Wiggl3s]

I can see what you mean, i see them fat people all the time, the ones that are so big they tuck their fat in their pants. They give people like me a bad name. Im the fat dude that lifts weights, and is a quick mother fucker, im a small bread lol. For real i use to run a 5.2 40
I decided to branch off of football, because im SO DAMN SHORT AGGGGGGGGGGG
Really, what am i going to do? At 6', everyone on the O like is AT LEAST 6'4 now.. so lame...(i play nose guard, tackle)

[J Rainey]

For the people who can't fit in a seat belt with comfort they do make extenders for cars just like they do on airplanes.

[quteasabutton]

i read a story about a woman who is pissed at honda for refusing to give her a seatbelt extender. she said she found a dream car and then they ruined it because they were discriminating against her for being fat. when in actuality they were doing her a favor. seatbelts are the length they are because people that size and under can safely fit in the car and have a higher chance of surviving an accident.

people who are that large need to lose weight. the argument that it's a health condition is very weak. yes there are people out there that have things such as medication or thyroid problems that cause weight gain that is virtually impossible to lose. but you need to look at the number of health related weight issues vs. just lazy people with poor eating habits.

i agree with kustm's list of things he learned in this thread, i learned that stuff too. cars aren't safe for everyone. just cuz you're old enough by law doesn't mean you are entitled to it. don't like it? tough shit then do something about it to make your life safer. being extremely overweight isn't healthy no matter how you look at it.

i never understood how people could go without seatbelts. like mentioned before, i feel very free and not safe without mine. do what it takes to make it comfortable. i guarantee wearing a slightly uncomfortable seatbelt is more comfortable than being 6 ft under.

[BleedDodge]

I got my green truck last April, put 11k miles on it since and never once wore the seatbelt in it.

[quteasabutton]

Originally Posted by BleedDodge

I got my green truck last April, put 11k miles on it since and never once wore the seatbelt in it.

that's not something to brag about. why do u think ur so cool for not wearing a seatbelt? just makes you look dumb i think. seatbelts actually do save lives, its not just some random stuff they made up to take up commerical airtime.

[zx2guy]

i slide all over in my seat w/o my seat belt, ive been in a number of wrecks... all buckled, some w/ the parental arm across me. my friend was telling me about one of his wrecks.... i gave him hell over it seeing as i was right behind him, and saw the whole thing... some ricer (no offence intended) was swirving through traffic and... well you know the cop "pit" meneuver? yeah at 70 mph... my friend went into the median and slammed 2 trees.... they found him lying across the seats (which i hear is what you should do in case of a rollover... grab the opposite door panel. or whatever you can. he ripped the roll and the locking mechanism out of where ever it was bolted and was in his hands ( well the belt was) ... ive heard of a few of these circumstances where the bolts were yanked out... ussually at the shoulder mount. and it makes me wonder if the restrains should be revised... especially now that we are getting v6's that push 250 hp ( 3.8 s/c grand prix >260) and the v8's are getting almost as powerful as in the muscle era. (for thier size... granted we wont be seeing any 460's, 454's, or 440's any time soon)

[Mr Wiggl3s]

Originally Posted by BleedDodge

I got my green truck last April, put 11k miles on it since and never once wore the seatbelt in it.

3k miles with no seatbelt so far, you got me beat

Originally Posted by quteasabutten

that's not something to brag about. why do u think ur so cool for not wearing a seatbelt? just makes you look dumb i think. seatbelts actually do save lives, its not just some random stuff they made up to take up commerical airtime.

Its a guy thing..really

[quteasabutton]

Originally Posted by Mr Wiggl3s

3k miles with no seatbelt so far, you got me beat


Its a guy thing..really

its a guy thing to not wear your seatbelt or its a guy thing to brag about stupid stuff? cuz i know an equal amount of guys and girls who don't wear their seatbelts..either way its just stupid. how is it possibly cool to get carted away by the paramedics or wiped off the pavement? especially with the way i've seen people drive. whether it be you or some other dumbass who thinks he's a hotshot, bad stuff happens. seatbelts aren't decorations, they're there for a purpose.

[lucky13garage]

I think everyone should get real with it all... seatbelts are uncomfortable if you never were them... if you start wearing them everyday you'll get used to it... you'll stay alive and not get a ticket... and the cars way back when were so freakin big that if you wrecked into lets say a 2006 civic... youll be totaly fine and the civic will be split in freakin half... save yourself the hastle... get a nice car... get some sparco seats, and some 5 point harnesses... then wearing you seatbelt will be cool... yeah lets all do it... wtf?? just wear it... they really do save lifes... if it werent for seatbelts all that would be left of my uncle is bones under some concrete... my friend also just did 3 weeks in the hospital for spliting his face on another friends dash in a highway wreck... he was wearing his lap belt only but the truck didnt have a shoulder belt.. it was an older s10...

[cody_e]

Hell if I had a choice of wearing a lap belt or nothing at all I'd choose nothing at all. All you'll do is jack knife (if not get ripped in half) by wearing just a lap belt.