99 turbo si vs. 00 supercharged svt cobra

[dudewheresmycar]

this guy probably has one of the fastest civics in the united states...super street should do a cover on him killing supercharged svt cobras....hmmm

[RedCrown]

Originally posted by Self


Easily?? No way. It's a mid 13 second car stock. Average blower would add say...70 hp. That would give it say...360rwhp?(estimates but probably pretty accurate) Most people don't just slap on a blower and be done with it, and I know he didn't either so I'll say through on another 40 or so hp in "other" mods. That puts him right at about 400rwhp. That equates to a low 12 second quarter. Pretty darn fast, but like I said, not untouchable by any means. The SI DOES NOT have nitrous, but I don't reallly know what all it has. I know it has a built bottom end/forged internals because I know he was running close to 20 pounds yesterday when he roasted the Cobra, and I know he drives around with 12 pounds. Reguardless, he clocks 11 second quarters consistently.

Umm no they don't add 70hp.

1st 00 Cobra they never made one
2nd A Stock 99,01,02 Cobra packs 320hp subtrtact 15% for RWHP 03 makes 390 at the crank well ok more like 425 because they dyno at 365-380rwhp
3rd A blown Cobra at say 10psi will put 450hp+ 8 psi 400+
4th this kid can't drive for his life
5th a car like that should be able to hit high 11s with a good driver

[mellowboy]

Originally posted by RedCrown



Umm no they don't add 70hp.

1st 00 Cobra they never made one
2nd A Stock 99,01,02 Cobra packs 320hp subtrtact 15% for RWHP 03 makes 390 at the crank well ok more like 425 because they dyno at 365-380rwhp
3rd A blown Cobra at say 10psi will put 450hp+ 8 psi 400+
4th this kid can't drive for his life
5th a car like that should be able to hit high 11s with a good driver

Thats exactly what i was thinkin. I think any blown f-bodies or mustangs could hit 11's easily with good driving.

[TrackGuy]

I got this link from another board, and I have just one thing to say.

If you people have such "mad tyte" rides and are such skilled drivers, then why don't you take you and your "ride" out to a real race track and go up against real race cars?

And before you say any shit about the cost and all the whining that goes with the road course perception, listen up. For the same amount of $ you spent on all your pimpin video and stereo equipment you could run at V.I.R down in Danville, VA about 50 fuckin weekends. That's right it only costs $200-$300 for a whole weekend. I know for a fact that the Honda CCA runs events down there. Also, your insurance covers the Non-race events, like DEs. I know I'm wasting my breath though, because all of you are too big a pussies to run against real cars.

You know what? I bet that Si has a better power to weight ratio than most cars out on that track on any given day. But that don't mean shit, because:

1. He doesn't know jack about appexes and late breaking.
2. 10$ says his suspension and breaks are SHIT.
3. That fukin thing would blow, 10 laps into the first damn day.

Any of you Drag Strip queens bring your car out there and I'll laugh my ass off when you get passed by a stock Bimmer.

Road course racing requires REAL skill, REAL suspension, REAL breaks and power to match, which the vast majority of you bling, bling types don't have and don't know anything about.

It just pisses me off too no end to hear the shit that spewes from your mouths about these so called "fast cars". You people are idiots.

Anyone who wants to call me out and actually does do an event at V.I.R, my average time is 2:14. Try to beat that, just try. If you do then I'll eat my words, but it aint gonna happen.

[94svt5.0]

So, what year was this cobra? N/A cobras can run high 12s with just regular bolt ons, trust me I know. But, dump many grand in a civic ( never will understand why, its still a civic) and you could probably beat a cobra. Is it not amazing what money can do?

[Self]

Originally posted by mellowboy


Thats exactly what i was thinkin. I think any blown f-bodies or mustangs could hit 11's easily with good driving.

No, it wouldn't be easy. That would be about 2 seconds from his stock time. Do you know how much power you must have to drop 2 seconds from your time?? A BUNCH. On average, in an f-body, you would gain about .8 - 1.0 seconds from a 100 shot of nitrous. Mustangs I would say weight about the same(yes, no..?) so I would say it would take about the same amount of horsepower as the f-body. You would need to gain about 225 - 250 hp to shave 2 full seconds from your time(this isn't precise, as hp isn't all there is to quick times, but that gives you an idea).

Originally posted by 94svt5.0
So, what year was this cobra? N/A cobras can run high 12s with just regular bolt ons, trust me I know. But, dump many grand in a civic ( never will understand why, its still a civic) and you could probably beat a cobra. Is it not amazing what money can do?

Yea, it is amazing. I don't know what year the Cobra is. I BELIEVE it has a 6 lb pulley, and I KNOW it doesn't run in the 11s. I couldn't tell you what it runs though, b/c I haven't seen him go to the track. But I CAN guarantee you that he didn't shave 2 seconds from his time with the 6 lb blower. I DO know what the Civic runs, 11 second quarter miles all day long. While driver error probably had a lot to do with compounding the defeat, it didn't matter much when deciding the outcome of the situation. The Civic is JUST PLAIN FASTER. Bottom line.

[Grendel]

Originally posted by TrackGuy
Blah blah road course blah blah suspension blah apexes blah blah blah...

What was the point of your whole post? Registered just to post that? If we are idiots, why waste your time talking to us?

*shrugs* some people...

-Grendel

[TrackGuy]

Thats kinda what I expected.

[dudewheresmycar]

doesn't matter if this guy had like 15 turbos on his little si, he'd still get smoked.

[illracer]

i don't know if anyone's mentioned it yet (i'm not about to go back and read through 4 pages of posts ) but 2000 Cobras were never made. in 99 there was a major recall because the "Cobras" were underpowered. The only 2000 Cobra was the Cobra R where roughly 300 or so were made. Sure it wasn't a V6 with an SVT Cobra insignia? (the domestic equivalent of a 4 door non-vtec Civic with a Type R logo) Either you're mistaken or more likely you're lying.:finger4:

That said an Si would have to run a pretty high boost to keep up with an even mildly supercharged 4 valve 4.6 stang. Forget about keeping those stock internals.. The Si's a respectable car but it would take quit a bit to keep up with an SVT Cobra.

[Mean302]

I just heard about this from another forum.

There is a MAJOR lacking in intelligence going on here.

heres a little REAL info for the bench racers out there.

93-95 5.0 liter Cobras with a supercharger pulls about 350-400rwhp (can change depending on boost and blower type, the 350 would be the lowest and thats rwhp)

96-01 4.6 DOHC Cobra with supercharger pulls about 450-550 RWHP. This can be achieved VERY easly with ONLY the base level supercharger.

[Mean302]

BTW if you see a 96-01 Cobra with a blower then you can expect that to be a 11 second car no sweat. I hit 11.7's all day with less power then most STOCK SUPERCHARGED 96-01 Cobras.

Example: 98 Cobra

Mods are Vortech S trim, powerpipe, stock pully, 80mm mass air, aftercooler, exhaust. ALL ESLE STOCK

power: 528RWHP 409lbs which is about 600hp at the crank.

Your buddy DID NOT RACE A 96 or above cobra. And the cobra he did race was driven poorly, not saying he might not have lost, but 5 lengths is 5 tenths. I WOULD HAVE A HARD TIME BELEIVING A SUPERCHARGED 93-95 is running any slower 12.4 at worst.

[Mean302]

I just read the post name, this story is filled with soo much bullshit that its attracting outside opinion, thats not a good thing.

1. There is no such thing as a 00 Cobra, never made.

2. The only superchargers that can be bought for a newer Cobra pully at the least 8 lbs. Which still produces amazing results(look above).

3. IF it is a new body style Cobra DOHC then that car is running at the least 8lbs and pulling 450RWHP running easy 11 second time slips. If he lost then he sucks ass at driving. But 5 lengths is a little out of reality.

[narfmasta]

Including a 11 second NA Drag Integra

Big whoop. There are plenty of corvettes, mustangs, and old muscle cars easily breaking 11's NA.

Did you even bother to read all the posts? If you would have, you would have realized that its not his car and about 3 others have confirmed that this SI is truly that fast. Why would someone lie about a race they saw between two strangers?

How do we know that these 3 people aren't all friends that decided to make up some bullshit ricer story???

It will smoke you, it will smoke me, it will smoke just about anything on the road.

I know of several 7-8 second 1/4 mile cars that run on the street, so it won't smoke just about anything. But, I guess it's not possible to run 7-8 seconds on the street since Vin Diesel only ran 10's in fast and the furious.

I'll tell you what, smart guy. Obviously you had nothing else better to do cept mock my cuzin about his "language".

Since when did Ebonics become a internationally recognized language? I haven't ever seen a class that teaches it nor have I seen any books that teaches it. But who knows, someone might be writing "Hooked On Ebonics."

Anyways fer u guys who dont believe wah happend...u swear i care i wuz jus informing u of wah i saw any many others saw too.

Really LSvTeCbOi01, learn the English language, it'll help you get somewhere in life.

The Civic Si is one of the best platforms to work with and it comes factory with the B16A, which is the 350 of 4 cylinder motors.

But it's still a P.O.S. Civic and it's still a P.O.S. 4 cylinder....

Hell, the Z06 makes a Cobra look like an idiot and the Z06 isn't even that high of a supercar

Actually the 2003 Cobra really isn't too far off of a Z06. Get your facts straight.

Don't diss on Honda buddy, more people have died behind the wheel of highpowered rear-wheel drive American cars, then in front wheel drive Japanese cars.

And highpowered rear-wheel drive American cars are also running 4 seconds in the 1/4 mile. What's the fastest Honda run????

If this guy is what they claim he is, then I'd be suprised if that Cobra was within FIFTEEN car lengths of that Si because with the right tuning

Okay you said high 13 sec car is what a Mustang is... I don't think that 3 sec difference in the 1/4 mile = 15 car lengths. Retard.

A Cobra with a supercharger and bolt on's wouldn't even have wetdreams of hitting those times

You are an idiot.

Team S2
0-60 = 7.3
1/4 Mile = 15.5
Current Mods: P&P head, custom cold air intake.

LOL!!! HAHAHA. Why the hell do you bother to even post that? That is the most pathetic thing I've ever seen!

this guy probably has one of the fastest civics in the united states...super street should do a cover on him killing supercharged svt cobras....hmmm

Yeah and Johnny Tran has the fastest S2000, and Brian Spilner had the fastest Eclipse before it was blown up by Asian sportbike riders. That is one of the most ignorant posts I've ever seen.

All of you import enthusiasts who think that 11 sec. is an awesome time should go down to the drag strip and watch the big boys.

['03 Cobra Coupe]

Originally posted by dudewheresmycar
this guy probably has one of the fastest civics in the united states...super street should do a cover on him killing supercharged svt cobras....hmmm

Then I volunteer my Cobra for that pic. It's stock other then a Bassani, Lightning pulley, drag radials and the blue bottle. But then it wouldn't be him killing a Cobra then would it?