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Old 08-22-2005, 06:00 PM
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Re: Yikes! What happened to gas?

That's another reason prices will always be rising, regardless of inflation. The price goes up, we bitch about it, but keep buying it anyway. Companies see this and just keep jacking the price. They're getting richer and we're giving it to them.
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Old 08-22-2005, 06:02 PM
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As much as I've missed driving my Z since last November I'm glad she's not on the road this summer, cause I'd be paying insurance just to have her sit in a garage ready for me to drive her a few hours each week, what with gas prices the way they are... its nuts.

And there's all this hype now in Alberta how the oil sands are likely the second biggest oil deposit in the entire world and will bring billions and gillions of dollars in revenue... to who? The fuckers who invest in the companies, thats who. You'd think at least domestically here in Canada we'd be lucky enough, no, ENTITLED to cheap gas if its flowing like crazy... maybe make a few bucks on you yank fellas down south (lol) and charge an arm and a leg to all the other foreign countries who are raping us now. But no - we'll be paying up the ass as the petrol companies clean up.

I think the governments are bloody stupid - expropriate that oil land or better yet don't sell it off in the first place and use ALL that revenue to fix healthcare, the deficit, etc... these morons in parliament are excited about a few million bucks they get in taxes or admin fees - that's nothing! Get smart and invest, take it back, keep it in the first place so there's money left in my federal pension when I retire!!!!!
Be very careful there - you are talking about nationalising resources and that is something has tended to bring the wrath of the western world upon others who have previously done it. j/k....well, half j/k.
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As much as I've missed driving my Z since last November I'm glad she's not on the road this summer, cause I'd be paying insurance just to have her sit in a garage ready for me to drive her a few hours each week, what with gas prices the way they are... its nuts.

And there's all this hype now in Alberta how the oil sands are likely the second biggest oil deposit in the entire world and will bring billions and gillions of dollars in revenue... to who? The fuckers who invest in the companies, thats who. You'd think at least domestically here in Canada we'd be lucky enough, no, ENTITLED to cheap gas if its flowing like crazy... maybe make a few bucks on you yank fellas down south (lol) and charge an arm and a leg to all the other foreign countries who are raping us now. But no - we'll be paying up the ass as the petrol companies clean up.

I think the governments are bloody stupid - expropriate that oil land or better yet don't sell it off in the first place and use ALL that revenue to fix healthcare, the deficit, etc... these morons in parliament are excited about a few million bucks they get in taxes or admin fees - that's nothing! Get smart and invest, take it back, keep it in the first place so there's money left in my federal pension when I retire!!!!!
Be very careful there - you are talking about nationalising resources and that is something has tended to bring the wrath of the multinational corporates upon those who have previously done it. j/k....well, half j/k.
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I actually think that the auto age will come to a close before the oil age does. Automobiles have made us lazy, and they've made our world highly inneficient. NOBODY would've commuted 20 miles to work 100 years ago. Cars and highways became fast enough that it became possible for people to live farther from work, and have supported the growth of a highly illogical and inneficient infrastructure.
I don't think that the car, as a personal transportation device will outlast this century. Where we live, what we do, and how we get there will probably much be like it was in 1800s - bicycles, streetcars, etc. We'll probably see things like electric busses and taxis live on in cities, but cars won't figure into the big picture in a large way (in many places outside of the U.S. the role of the automobile is already much smaller than it is here).
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Capitalism is whats wrong with the world - I mean, you can't just do away with it, but there's smart capitalism; non-dehumanizing and exploiting capitalism and then there's hardcore slit-throat capitalism.

Then there's STUPID capitalism! This country produces more than enough oil to sustain itself, but where's the profit in that? Who cares about our domestic consumers, who cares if we're a Canadian oil company - there is no such thing as a national company anymore, everything is global and ultra-hardcore competitive. No, we sell most of our oil to countries who desperately need and will pay for it.

can't go on at this point but I wish I could.
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hulc, here in southern california... does anyone use biodiesel fuel for their diesel engines... there is an article in this month's national geographic... one guy is getting free cooking oil, and using for his diesel jetta... costing him about 8 dollars a month...
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We all noticed how the gas stations didn't waste a second in bumping up prices (someitmes sevral times a day) as the Katrina effects became fully felt? And yet, now that gas is (for the moment) trading at roughly $64 per barrel, they've been pretty damn slow moving in lowering prices. Bad enough they were raising repeatedly over the last couple weeks (and how often does a gas station need its reservoir tank filled up? It seems to me they were adjusting prices faster than they were getting gas shipments, which tells me that they were raising prices on the same gas they had already payed a certain lower amount for.) The gas station across the street from me is STILL $3.08 for a gallon of regular, despite the price of a barrel having gone down. FTC people say it's hard to spot gas-gouging because its such a "squishy" business, I say just ask any one of the millions of drivers on the road putting gas in their tanks and getting raped for it, and they'll tell you: "if it looks like a rat and smells like a rat, it's probably a rat."

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Re: Yikes! What happened to gas?

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We all noticed how the gas stations didn't waste a second in bumping up prices (someitmes sevral times a day) as the Katrina effects became fully felt? And yet, now that gas is (for the moment) trading at roughly $64 per barrel, they've been pretty damn slow moving in lowering prices. Bad enough they were raising repeatedly over the last couple weeks (and how often does a gas station need its reservoir tank filled up? It seems to me they were adjusting prices faster than they were getting gas shipments, which tells me that they were raising prices on the same gas they had already payed a certain lower amount for.)http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050907/...ress_energy_dc
Little correction here, if "gas" or Gasoline was trading at $64/barrel (1 barrel = 42 gallons) You'd be paying a helluva lot more than just 3 bucks a gallon.

I've noticed that too. Some people have said they saw the prices roll up 50+ cents 5 minutes after katrina, yet we're at $63 bucks a barrel instead of $70 and no relief is seen. This right here is what I don't get.
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"Little correction here, if "gas" or Gasoline was trading at $64/barrel (1 barrel = 42 gallons) You'd be paying a helluva lot more than just 3 bucks a gallon. "
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