synthetic blend VS. good quality regular oil?

[BlazerLT]

I don't get it, you are against Amsoil and sticking up for companies using the synthetic tag on a non synthetic product?

For christ sakes man, the article you gave me was from 1996, that is almost 10 years ago.

You can't compare then to now like there is no difference, oil has gone through another formulation upgrade since then.

[vtmecheng]

It isn't that I am against Amsoil, I do not agree with ANY of the companies. All oil co's should be required to give their API test results when asked. Would you buy a car that you never test-drove and only know some regulatory body rates it as a "sports car"? This is what we are forced to do with oil. It would be great that Amsoil posts test results online if I trusted the numbers. They do not use correct test results for their competitors. Example: Mobil 1 super syn's real total base number is 12 but Amsoil posts it as 8.57 making the competitor look like s@#t. Again, you can't believe everything you read, especially on the internet. You must take into account the source and author’s intentions. Don't think of me as for big oil companies and against Amsoil, I don't like anyone . I just hate to see companies smooth talk and easily manipulated bar graphs work. I could create graphs that make Amsoil not worth it; that’s the thing about graphs, you end up believing what the creator wants you to.

[BlazerLT]

Actually, Mobil 1's TBN is not 12 , it is indeed in the 8 range. Amsoil was right.

Again, read this forum and learn.

http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php

[vtmecheng]

HMMMMM, seems you just like to put web sites up here and not actualy read them. I am looking at vergin oil tests and they seem to say TBN for Mobil 1 is 12. Go figure, I am right again and OH MY WHAT A SHOCK you are wrong again. BlazerLT, learn to shut your trap and try to not be so sucked into company statments. What makes you think you know so much about oil anyway, are you an engineer, or have you studied oil analysis/makeup because I have been. You have helped a lot of people on here with some good advice but remember that you don't know everything.

[BlazerLT]

Originally Posted by vtmecheng

HMMMMM, seems you just like to put web sites up here and not actualy read them. I am looking at vergin oil tests and they seem to say TBN for Mobil 1 is 12. Go figure, I am right again and OH MY WHAT A SHOCK you are wrong again. BlazerLT, learn to shut your trap and try to not be so sucked into company statments. What makes you think you know so much about oil anyway, are you an engineer, or have you studied oil analysis/makeup because I have been. You have helped a lot of people on here with some good advice but remember that you don't know everything.

Post a link where it has Mobil 1 with a TBN of 12?

I would like to see this.

If you are going to say I am wrong, then provide proof.

Oh, and BTW, the oildrip is not a corporate website. It is made up of users just like you and me.

[vtmecheng]

Here is the posting from the oil drop, and yes I know it is a forum because I am a member. I never said it was something else but did say that Mobil also posts the TBN numbers on its product data sheets, seems Amsoil isn't as reliable and unbiased as you had hoped . The TBN is the last value given on the post I pasted here. This post was on the Oil drop posted by "buster" on 2/3/04. It is easy to look up on the search engine.

This is from a 5qt jug (NEW Mobil 1 5w-30 VOA) at Wamlart, which moves this stuff fairly quickly. Note how low the P is! Is this the new mandate? No thanks.

Aluminum 0
Chromium 0
Iron 1
Copper 0
Lead 0
Tin 0
Moly 65
Nickel 0
Maganese 0
Silver 0
Titanium 0
Potassium 0
Boron 165
Silicon 5
Sodium 5
Calcium 2782
Magnesium 13
Phosphorus 686
Zinc 725
Barium 0

SUS 59.8
Flash 435
TBN 12.1 ! Wow

[BlazerLT]

Yea, just saw that, I am wrong and I mean it.

Even the members are surprised that the TBN has gotten that high now.

It never used to be but hey, all the better for synthetic motor oil.