99+mustang gt vs ls1 camaro's

[TypeS]

Just stating that "LS1s run a good 11-12 every run" makes you look dumb.

[hiitsmels1]

i would of said that but i didnt want to be too harsh on him.......... see im nice too

[BrakeTorque]

if you guys got a LS1 in your vehicle(depending on the vehicles weight) that car will pull high 11-12's enless your a gimp and can pull the shifter. I say this because ive seen it done by 3 passes at low 12's and high 11's and not to make it seem like LS1s are the best but this is what this threads about so im stating the facts.

[Muscletang]

This is almost like comparing apples and oranges isn't it?
Ok I don't know a whole lot about LS1s but they aren't bread and butter 350s right? The 4.6 isn't a bread and butter engine either but I don't think its as juiced up as the LS1 and lets not forget the 1.1L difference of the 2.
I think it'd be better to compare the LS1 to the ford 351 but thats me. If I have to pick though I'll say the LS1.

[Ghost96Gt]

One so u are saying a 5.0 with 225 hp and the 4.6 with 260hp the 5.0 will win hmmm weight matters but personally i think its pretty dang close. second no a ls1 is not gonna run 11s stock what the z06 with a freckin ls6 runs 12s how the hell is a ls1 with less hp gonna run 11s and i am even talking about corvette ls1's. now as almost everyone said ls1 is gonna beat a 4.6 285 to 260 and a ss is 320 or 315 to 310 for a mach1. the mach is gonna be a really freckin close one drive is gonna be a huge factor. also u said depending on ur vechical weight so are u meaning a completly gutted nothing but a freckin seat shifter and gauges car with a ls1 is gonna run 11's?

[=OrangeZ=]

heck mustang gts gotta be slow even i beat a few in my 98 Z24 hahahaha

then again im supercharged and my car is under 2650lbs with full interior lol


anyways heres how i see it stock for stock the camaro ls1's will take it every time no questions asked, at the track near me they run low 13's in stock forum and the mustang Gt's are in the mid 14's with a stick and stock, this track is at sealevel and many good racers drive there so these are not bum times

i once seen a supercharged mustang get a 13 flat but im not sure what else he had done and what engine it was

[ZergSupremacist]

OK. The Mustang GT doesnt even stand a chance against the LT1. So why are we comparing it to the LS1?

[DVS LT1]

Mustang GT's are solid cars, there's no doubt about it. The first GT I ever raced was a rental my buddy had a few summers ago - we both had people piled in our cars, and it was auto vs. auto - I let him rip a second before me and ended up totally murdering him. But I learned quickly never to underestimate those cars. I actually had a real problem when I first started racing by giving cars I thought were slower the advantage - not lining up nose to nose but giving them about a quarter car length lead, waiting till they get on the gas before I punch it, etc... Then I started to wonder why I couldn't catch up to some of these stock looking GT's??? (one night you blow them away and the other you get humbled) Nowadays, I'm gunning it the instant I count three after a red light, regardless of the car.

There's this neighbourhood kid I've known forever who recently got a Rouche Stang - says the thing pulled off a 14 flat ET pure factory, before the conversion. Its now got headers, the side exhaust system and 4.10's. Either of us haven't hit the track this summer to see what the new setups will do (I was pulling 13.8's with my old 2.93's - have now got the 3.73's in), but we bumped into each other on a nice local road a few weeks ago - each on cold tires - and at 60 kmh we did the 1-2-3 and were side by side with no change right up to 150 kmh. And I don't know if he was full of shit when he said he was spinning through 3rd but that car has definitely got serious balls! And with what? - gears, and exhaust!

All lemons and pathetic drivers aside, in my book stock GT's are low-low 14 second cars, easy.

[Ghost96Gt]

some one said the new gts have 260 hp just clairfing they have 300 hp.

[sbackof]

Originally Posted by RedNeck383

Overall, stock for stock with equal drivers. The LS1's are faster than the Mustang GT's.

The Mach1's are about a match for the LS1's with thier DOHC 4.6s. The Cobras are damn quick, and with ideal conditions can dip into the 12s.

Lets think about this 03 cobra 390hp stock from theri supercharger against 02 SS na with 320hp.....I would hope a supercharged V8 could beat one w/o in stock format.....now throw a supercharger on a camaro and its what Cobra????All I see are headlights

[sbackof]

Originally Posted by VetteThug

if you want to compare a camaro...compare the mustang gt to a 1990 camaro z28 IROC Z they have about the same numbers throughout...that would be a good race...although i think those were LT1s which aren't much to brag about but weren't horrible either....anybody know when GM started to make LS1's?

Winter of 93...and approved in may of 94

[sbackof]

Originally Posted by FERNDID

Ive seen ss and camaro's run the 1/4 mile and i too am not impressed with LS1, i've beaten and lost to camaros, but at the track i've seen one ss run a 12'9 but he wasn't compltely stock and the fastest camaro i ever seen out there was supercharged and all he ever got was a 12.5 not bad but i figured he would be a little faster considering he has a complete exhaust and new cams amoung other mods. I agree with you the 03 cobra is a little over rated cause the fastest i've seen one run was a 13.01 and i've seen a mach 1 run 13.44 all stock no supercharger

To run a 12.5 w/ SC there would have been something wrong way to slow...A stock LS1 M6 with a ATI D1SC running 8lbs is a 10 sec car..... maybe he bought that $65 SC kit , and thats where his 12.5 came from

[sbackof]

In 2007 when the Camaro makes its comeback with the LS2 engine, It will again dominate the the streets. As well as GM's Official GTO to US specs....no more Aussie

[duckied]

Originally Posted by VetteThug

if you want to compare a camaro...compare the mustang gt to a 1990 camaro z28 IROC Z they have about the same numbers throughout...that would be a good race...although i think those were LT1s which aren't much to brag about but weren't horrible either

get some info before you make up some random crap, lt1's are torque beasts, you think an iroc z is a lt1 lol

[sbackof]

they were 350's with TPI