Please Post D16A1 Swap Info Here - Page 4

lxndr · 01-15-2005, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Spider228

do i need a motor mount kit to do the swap. what other parts from the integra would i need except for the things you already told me.(ex. cv joints, shift linkage, etc..)

No motor mount kit needed. Use the Integra (or Civic) trans mounts and the Civic motor mount. The Civic motor mount will need to have a notch cut into it for clearance but that's it. The other parts needed from an '86-'87 Integra will be: ECU, emission control box (located on the firewall), transmission, shift linkage, steering knuckles, cv shafts, and the tube that connects the air filter to the throttle body. You don't need to, but you should put in stiffer front torsion bars to compensate for the added weight, and you should also consider using the Integra brakes. The front T-bars from an '84-'87 Civic wagon (not hatch back) are a little stiffer and will work in place of the Civic/CRX T-bars.

Spider228 · 01-16-2005, 11:40 AM

Thanks for the info, if i need anything else i will be sure to ask you lxndr, it seems that you know your stuff. When i do the swap ill let you know how it went. Thanks again.

KrisSmithRocks · 01-16-2005, 10:59 PM

hey i'm just doin a ZC swap into an 85 rex and i was just woundering how many of you out ther have done the swap before? I've already committed an baught a bunch of stuff so i'm just woundering what types of problems you have had or things that you have liked about driving with a ZC.

Spider228 · 01-21-2005, 04:00 PM

I found an 85 Crx automatic with a blown motor for $25, will i beable to put my clutch pedal and shift linkage in the car or do i have to find a manual crx. I have a complete 86 integra so i have all the parts needed for the swap.

lxndr · 01-22-2005, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Spider228

I found an 85 Crx automatic with a blown motor for $25, will i beable to put my clutch pedal and shift linkage in the car or do i have to find a manual crx. I have a complete 86 integra so i have all the parts needed for the swap.

The parts should swap over. You might have trouble with the shift linkage, but with a donor Integra at hand it should be a simple modification.

Spider228 · 01-23-2005, 12:39 PM

Thanx alot

Looney_Tuner · 02-03-2005, 09:53 PM

any update on the prelude engine? hows that motor mount?

cvcc_wagon · 02-03-2005, 10:36 PM

no dice

Looney_Tuner · 02-03-2005, 10:39 PM

damn! that woulda been sweet

bmckay · 03-22-2005, 11:38 PM

This thread will never die!

I hope "CVCC WAGON" or one of you could help me with a few questions.

First let me say that I am not a troll dreaming about somthing some day way off in dreamland. I've had this 87 Civic sitting in my garage for years, since the day my son blew the motor. I've taken alot of grief from my wife over the years for hanging on to it and now I'm off and running!

I've just purchased what I thought was a D16a1 engine without tranny. I'm now worried I bought the wrong engine! I've been reading for months about this swap and learned that the easiest swap for my 87 4dr civic d15a2/5spd/carb is a D16a1 out of an integra.

I was hoping to find a wrecked integra for this project but haven't had luck finding a deal on one. So when I came across this engine for a couple hundred bucks, in very good shape, running well with no smoke, I jumped on it.

I now realize this is a D16a6 88-91 CRX SI. It's a SOHC W/red valve cover, am I in trouble? I'm hoping this engine will pretty much drop in and my 5 spd tranny will bolt up. Right, I hope?? If not, which trannys will match up?

I also don't think I want to try converting to FI (still leaning though), I didn't get the wiring harness or the ECU, so was hopeing I could bolt on my old intake and a new carb. Right, I hope?? Feel free to convince me going FI isn't so hard....

I will have to purchase an ECU for this motor, correct? I've read differing stories about improving performance by switching ECU's and would love to hear your opinions on which would be best, since I'll be shopping for one anyway.

This engine came complete with the exception of a missing altenator, but nothing extra. no shift cable, mounts, wiring harness, gauge cluster, axles, etc. Will I need any of these? What else will I need besides the obviouse water pump, belts, hoses, timing belt, tentioner, etc?

I know that's alot of questions, but could realy use the help.
Thank you!

88novarules · 03-23-2005, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by bmckay

This thread will never die!

I hope "CVCC WAGON" or one of you could help me with a few questions.

First let me say that I am not a troll dreaming about somthing some day way off in dreamland. I've had this 87 Civic sitting in my garage for years, since the day my son blew the motor. I've taken alot of grief from my wife over the years for hanging on to it and now I'm off and running!

I've just purchased what I thought was a D16a1 engine without tranny. I'm now worried I bought the wrong engine! I've been reading for months about this swap and learned that the easiest swap for my 87 4dr civic d15a2/5spd/carb is a D16a1 out of an integra.

I was hoping to find a wrecked integra for this project but haven't had luck finding a deal on one. So when I came across this engine for a couple hundred bucks, in very good shape, running well with no smoke, I jumped on it.

I now realize this is a D16a6 88-91 CRX SI. It's a SOHC W/red valve cover, am I in trouble? I'm hoping this engine will pretty much drop in and my 5 spd tranny will bolt up. Right, I hope?? If not, which trannys will match up?

I also don't think I want to try converting to FI (still leaning though), I didn't get the wiring harness or the ECU, so was hopeing I could bolt on my old intake and a new carb. Right, I hope?? Feel free to convince me going FI isn't so hard....

I will have to purchase an ECU for this motor, correct? I've read differing stories about improving performance by switching ECU's and would love to hear your opinions on which would be best, since I'll be shopping for one anyway.

This engine came complete with the exception of a missing altenator, but nothing extra. no shift cable, mounts, wiring harness, gauge cluster, axles, etc. Will I need any of these? What else will I need besides the obviouse water pump, belts, hoses, timing belt, tentioner, etc?

I know that's alot of questions, but could realy use the help.
Thank you!

Ok, I understand where you are coming from and all, but I wouldnt bother putting that engine in your rex, reason being your gonna have to spend money on making it fi, which means u need wiring harness, ecu, fuel pump, fuel filter. You will need a new transmission, motor mounts, and knowldge on how to wire the car up properly. My opinion is let that engine be for how under powered it is to spend money on trying to drop it in the rex. My sugestion is get on ebay and look for a
DOHC ZC engine on ebay. its the same as the American d16a1. you can usualy get a wiring harness and ecu with it. Thats my 2 cents on the issue. Its your car but thats what I feel is best, your going to put alot money into an engine that isnt worth it if you try and use the one you have.

Figori · 03-23-2005, 10:34 AM

a6's aren't bad motors.... But you will have a time getting it to work in your 3rd gen. I think some of the motor mounts will line up, but you will have some difficulties... Anyways... Maybe someone with more experience can shoot back an answer.

cvcc_wagon · 03-23-2005, 03:11 PM

a6's aren't that bad, you can make a mini-me swap out of it. anyhow, the motor is more troubble then it's worth i think. the tranny you have won't mount to it. you'll need the Hasport mounting kit ($$) to install it. i'm not sure what the aftermarket is like for CV's but i don't think the stock ones will work. converting to Fi is pretty basic from what i understand but only if you're using the Fi from an 84-87 car. the 88-91 is quite different and there were two typs of Fi in those years, Dual point and Multi point, each will have a different wiring harness and ECU

88novarules · 03-23-2005, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by cvcc_wagon

a6's aren't that bad, you can make a mini-me swap out of it. anyhow, the motor is more troubble then it's worth i think. the tranny you have won't mount to it. you'll need the Hasport mounting kit ($$) to install it. i'm not sure what the aftermarket is like for CV's but i don't think the stock ones will work. converting to Fi is pretty basic from what i understand but only if you're using the Fi from an 84-87 car. the 88-91 is quite different and there were two typs of Fi in those years, Dual point and Multi point, each will have a different wiring harness and ECU

I wasn't saying a6 was a bad motor, but its not worth the money to convert, especialy when you can get a zc and put it in for about the price or cheaper. Ebay has a ton of em. Converting a carb to efi is somewhat tricky but not too hard, the worst part is the wiring loom. Also have to run fuel lines charcoal canisters, crap like that. Ne way I think the ZC is better you can get one off of ebay for like 600$

cvcc_wagon · 03-23-2005, 09:00 PM

sorry, i was actually responding to Figori's post when i said that. i was at work and now that i look at it again i see that i read it backwards. just reverse the first two words and put a question mark after it and you'll see what i mean.
my bro got shafted with his 89 CRX Si, came with a D15B2. at some point his car was the compilation of two cars (not a chop, just interior and motor)

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