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05-18-2002, 02:35 AM
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And get one thing straight- i find NSX a very nice car , good engineered and i'd love to have one. I'm not a hater... But for this kind of money it really is slow and i could buy faster and more reliable cars for that money... |
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Beautiful car, NISSANSPDR. What's wrong with turbos? Change the oil regularly and you're all good. Plus, slap some mods on it and feel that those turbos spool...ah...it's glorious! Still though....Both cars look the same minus the spoiler. Absolutly beautiful cars, aren't they. LONG LIVE THE 300 ZX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sorry but there is no way in hell that you are going to find a car more reliable than a Honda, my dad's new business partner (and fellow car-nut) operates a 1992 NSX 3.0L VTEC V6 and once owned a 930 (?) Carrera 4S, I was having a little talk with him today and he said he had done 70,000Km in the NSX over the years and it had never let him down, except for a minor exhaust rattle in the left pipe, which was promptly fixed, but the Carrera was a nightmare to own and maintain, with constant bills and steep fuel costs as the car aged, the NSX however sips fuel in comparision and has only needed $300 in repairs (For the exhaust). Anyway here are some 996, 993 and NSX stats 996 Carrera Base Price $65 000 usd Displacement -3387 cc / 206.7 cu in Torque 349.8 nm / 258.0 ft lbs @ 4600 rpm Power- 220.7 kw / 296.0 bhp @ 6800 rpm Gear Type 6-Speed Manual 1st Gear Ratio- 3.82:1 2nd Gear Ratio- 2.20:1 3rd Gear Ratio- 1.52:1 4th Gear Ratio- 1.22:1 5th Gear Ratio- 1.02:1 6th Gear Ratio- 0.84:1 Final Drive Ratio- 3.44:1 Redline 7300 rpm HP / Liter 87.39 bhp per litre Curb Weight 1324 kg / 2919 lbs Drive Wheels- Rear Engine / RWD Top Speed 280.0 kph / 174.0 mph 0 - 60 mph 4.6 seconds 0 - ¼ mile 13.2 seconds 0 - 100 mph 11.6 seconds Lateral Acceleration 0.91g EPA City/Hwy 19 / 32 mpg NSX T/Top Base Price $88 000 USD Displacement 3179 cc / 194.0 cu in Power 216.3 kw / 290.1 bhp @ 7100 rpm Torque 303.7 nm / 224.0 ft lbs @ 5500 rpm Gear Type 6-Speed Manual 1st Gear Ratio- 3.067:1 2nd Gear Ratio- 1.957:1 3rd Gear Ratio- 1.429:1 4th Gear Ratio- 1.125:1 5th Gear Ratio- 0.914:1 6th Gear Ratio- 0.718:1 Final Drive Ratio- 4.062:1 Redline 8000 rpm Curb Weight 1433 kg / 3159 lbs HP / Liter 91.26 bhp per litre Drive Wheels Mid Engine / RWD Top Speed 270.4 kph / 168.0 mph 0 - 60 mph 5.1 seconds 0 - ¼ mile 13.5 seconds 0 - 100 mph 11.6 seconds Lateral Acceleration 0.89g EPA City/Hwy 17 / 24 mpg 993 Base Price $59 000 usd Displacement 3600 cc / 219.7 cu in Power 202.8 kw / 272 bhp @ 6100 rpm Torque 329.5 nm / 243.0 ft lbs @ 5000 rpm Gear Type 6-Speed Manual 1st Gear Ratio- 3.82:1 2nd Gear Ratio- 2.05:1 3rd Gear Ratio- 1.41:1 4th Gear Ratio- 1.12:1 5th Gear Ratio- 0.92:1 6th Gear Ratio- 0.78:1 Final Drive Ratio- 3.44:1 Curb Weight 1390 kg / 3064 lbs Redline 6800 rpm HP / Liter- 75.56 bhp per litre Drive Wheels- Rear Engine / RWD Top Speed 270 kph / 167.8 mph 0 - 60 mph 5.2 seconds 0 - ¼ mile 13.8 seconds 0 - 100 mph 13.3 seconds Lateral Acceleration- N/A EPA City/Hwy 17 / 25 mpg So really the NSX and 996 are rather neck and neck, while the 993 is wheezing at the effort to catch up with them Like you said though Tom, I aren't hating on Porsche, I would LOVE to own a 996 Turbo, I just think when it comes to Carrera vs. NSX, the Honda is the superior car  |
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Btw maybe your dad's friend had some bad car... you know even the most reliable cars , if you buy the "wrong" one then it'll be braking down all the time , and then you buy a car that is told to be "the least reliable" and it can run forever... so maybe he just have had bad luck... Right now as we speak , i have just beaten a NSX in my S8 today , which is a heavy sedan... but i think it's the driver who had no balls , because i beat him in corners... but the first thing i did when i have seen that car...it reminded me off this thread... it looks stunning you can't deny it , but it sucked (i don't know if it was the car or the driver , but i'd say both) i have easily overtaken it (he tried not to let me do it) and then i went through a corner , and he almost crashed in the same corner... what a dumbass... he lost traction , but somehow he luckily made it and he still wanted to chase me... i didn't see him in my mirrors after 3 or 4 more corners so i slowed down , and after some time he appeared in my mirror again , so i let him pass , overtaken him once again and never seen him again... but i can tell , he was pissed... when i looked on his face , oh man... it was sooooo funny... he looked like that --------->  |
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We have already covered this Tom. Yes in most of Europe the NSX is incredibly over priced, and for the same money you could most deffintly buy a faster car. And because of the differnces in exchange rates and international trade laws you can not compare the two cars on Price. Here in NZ I could buy several used NSX's for the cost of one used 911. I am also currently working in a workshop that specialises in Historic, classic and exotic cars. I can tell you right now there isnt a super car out there that is more relaible or cheaper to maintain than an NSX. Try looking up prices for used porsche parts on e-bay. We're looking at wrecking road going legal 911's just to send the parts to the US and make money on them. And I never called you a hater. I just suggested that you prehaps need to look out side of the square your thinking in, and accept that there are better cars out there than the 911, and that yes one of them might just be made by the Japanese. And untill you get some experiance behind the wheel of a much wider variety of differnt cars, and have some experiance working on cars and understanding what makes them great and what dosnt you need to listen to what others with more experiance are saying. There is more to what a makes a car great than can ever be put down on paper.
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for a note to tom on the times around nurburgring (i think that is where the times were from)
the nsx stock only had 16in wheels until this year... porsche had 17 and 18in wheels available for a while... that would make a hugeass difference on the track... not puttin the porsche down, but if the nsx had the bigger wheels and better tires, it would be closer, or lighter wheels... as porsche is known to make hollow spoke wheels that are lighter than hell... *not on all car, but they do have them* and on your kill of the nsx... some folks can't drive... and your s8 is a wicked ass car anyways, and i would love to drive it... but the thread, i believe, is about the 1/4 times of the cars... 8 minute laps are impressive, but how many times are you gonna find 8 minutes next to an nsx with a porsche averaging 150ish? and one more thing on the times... i usually don't like times posted by different drivers, i prefer the one driver rule. one guy drives the cars, both, all, whatever, and that way it is a bit more equal. for example, if you took one of the porsche drivers, and put him in the nsx, maybe he would get a quicker time out of it... i dunno... but you get the idea... i'm not tryin to deny anything you said, just pointing out arguable points.... |
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Europe - porsche is the winner Japan , Australia , Oceania - NSX is the winner US - they can drive their "sport" pick up trucks :finger: Faster on track - porsche 993 Faster in straight line - Honda NSX Faster overall (both track and stragiht line) - porsche 996 Just wait for the new NSX tho , so we can compare it with the 320 hp 911s and E46 M3s... And makea another pointless thread debate...  Anyway the starter of this thread wanted a comparsion between NSX and 300 hp 996 and here the 996 wins (is faster on the track and in straight line) but i agree to what Moppie said... stats on paper can't give you a feeling of what the car really is... |
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on the wheels...
if it is anything but the brand new 03 (?)... they are not as big as a porsche, so that makes a diff... the lightweight hollow porsche 18s are pretty light... not sure on the exact weights... but i know that you can get 18s that are just as light as a 16... i still feel that the race would be pretty close if not won by the nsx... i guess i would have to see it with the US spec cars... not like the best motoring jdm cars... |
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05-20-2002, 03:09 PM
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oh, and besides my prelude, i happen to have one of those sport trucks...
94 s10 xcab v6 5spd... quick little truck.. and it's dropped so it handles... |
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Anyway... about the race , i gave you times for nurburring and porsches happen to be better.... |
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considering that my truck, even with it's sport suspsension still hauls refrigerators, couches, and alot of musical equipment for a friends band, it still does it's job. and it looks hella nice doing it.
so what is wrong with having a dual purpose vehicle that has great accel and handling, and will haul your mother's couch? |
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Ok that's :coolguy: , but trucks are to heavy to handle good and it's just the physics , you can't do a damn thing about it... i'm sure it must handle better then 90% trucks out there , and also better than many passenger cars , but it's not sport by any means... |
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considering that it's an s10 and weighs in around 3k lbs, it isn't that much heavier than a lot of sports cars out there... and it's lighter than most of the heavyweight cars like vettes...
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I don't know about lbs but my 952 weights around 1250 kg (but it's a cabriolet.... coupes are lighter)
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