1989 240sx vs 1994 Integra LS

[KrNxRaCer00]

Originally posted by carrrnuttt


Easy KrN...those are all basically dedicated drag cars...I was looking for street-going cars. There is the HKS drag 180SX that run's low sevens...but wait...it's powered by a Skyline motor...

ah...aite...lol...still...

[carrrnuttt]

Originally posted by TatII
heres a link to jay's 240. he run's 10's
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t89763.html

Not doubting that there are 10-sec 240s out there...just want to know if there are any street-legal ones.

In the vid, it says that the 240 has about 390WHP. I know of S2000s that are at low high/low 12's with that much WHP, and they weigh approximately the same (2600/2800LBS). I doubt that it's a ten-sec car with "only" that much HP.

Besides, the video didn't really prove anything. It was just basically the car goofing-off. I wanna see a run.

[TatII]

theres videos of him running at the track. all the people in the 240 community knows of him. i'll ask around for his videos.

[mynismo]

why would you need an sr in a 240? turbo the ka, cost you about 3 g's and you can do it yourself. you have more torque and wider power range. there are some ka's running 10's, very few sr's running 10's and it would cost a shitload amount of money.

only hard thing about that is you would need a very low milage ka, and it would probably have to be a dohc.

[NSX-R-SSJ20K]

is it really easier to get a KA into 10's?

If the KA is better than why does Nissan only sell S15's with SR's?

I heard the whole thing is debatable i really don't know much about the Pro's and Con's.

[mynismo]

Originally posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K
is it really easier to get a KA into 10's?

If the KA is better than why does Nissan only sell S15's with SR's?

I heard the whole thing is debatable i really don't know much about the Pro's and Con's.

yea it's a debatable topic, but with the same money you can get a ka faster. ka's better for dragging and sr's better for an all-around easier to drive car.

the ka has higher displacement (sr is 2.0L and ka is 2.4L). i don't know why nissan didn't sell ka-t's... a ka-t is faster than a stock sr.

ka-t 1/4 is 13.8 and costs $3000 (if you have an engine) and is easy to install
stock sr is 14.5 and costs at the very least $5000 and requires an engine swap

then with all the other upgrades and mods you can do the ka-t would kill an sr...

if you really want to go fast get an rb25 or rb26, there was one an ebay that ran 9's...

[SR20DETpower]

bahhhhhh

all this talk of swapping in a Sr20DET


give me the KA24DET!!!

10k into a KA24DE and it will work just about any honda with 10k invested.....

point being it has more torque and all throught out the power band


and if ur just comparing apples to apples.... the KA24 is a 2.4L engine which has more liters then any 4 banger honda..... so on a turbo application the higher displacement engine has more potential for HP on the same parts and a quicker turbo spool....

240sx hands down.......

[SR20DETpower]

also someone said you don't see a lot of fast drag nissans....... thats because most people do not drag race them.... and someone said hondas are faster




now let us not forget the HKS 180sx(240sx) that I believe has a fastest run of 7.012 or something like that..... a real low 7...



any hondas running in the 7's?

[mynismo]

Originally posted by SR20DETpower
also someone said you don't see a lot of fast drag nissans....... thats because most people do not drag race them.... and someone said hondas are faster

now let us not forget the HKS 180sx(240sx) that I believe has a fastest run of 7.012 or something like that..... a real low 7...

any hondas running in the 7's?

yea i think that had an rb26 in it. BEAST.

i've never heard of a honda that achieved anywhere near a 7 flat.

[mynismo]

here we go

1/4 mi 7.184

http://www.nhraimport.com/2003/drivers/T_Kawasaki.html

1100hp

0-60 in less than 1 sec.

[S14Kyle]

Originally posted by fatninja19
S14Kyle: Does that 7k budget for the 276 rwhp 240 cover the cost of the car itself? And can you also give the specs and parts of the 240?

Yes

[fatninja19]

Originally posted by S14Kyle


Yes

Nice.. But can you also give the specs and parts of the car please?



And 0-60 in less than a sec is cool...




When will the stock trans from a 240 need reinforcement before blowing up? How about the rearend?

[carrrnuttt]

Originally posted by mynismo


yea i think that had an rb26 in it. BEAST.

i've never heard of a honda that achieved anywhere near a 7 flat.

This is why I asked for street cars. First off, just like I told KrNxRaCer00, don't mention the race-dedicated cars. If you wanna go that route, the low eight-second FWD car of Stephan Papadakis runs a 4-banger that originally came in an economy-class Honda, and wasn't originally turbo-charged. Also, his crew's efforts, compared to HKS's with the 180SX, is still technically amateur. The 180SX is running a Skyline motor...a motor that came with a turbo stock. The 180 is also a no-money-spared project from a world-class company.

Now, if you want to compare apples-to-apples, you can check-out Adam Saruwatari's drag NSX, which is similar, as it runs a 6-cylinder configuration, and is a dedicated drag-car. It runs low 7's, and has a motor that originally came with the car configuration. The NSX motor, we all know, was never configured for turbo.

There are a lot of documented, street-legal, 10-second Civics in the U.S., of which I showed you one example in the video. Show me your street-legal, ten-second Silvia/180SX/240SX here in the U.S..

Not that I don't believe that there are those cars, it's just not as numerous as Hondas, because of initial cost, and cost of maintenance...which was the point I was making. The 276WHP 240 that somebody mentioned that cost 7grand...I can potentially create a 300-400WHP Civic for that much money...if the money is distributed correctly with no concern for the looks of the car. Hell, hybridsol's/dblovrhdcamron's low 10's-high 9's CRX cost them about 4grand.

[Self]

Originally posted by carrrnuttt

There are a lot of documented, street-legal, 10-second Civics in the U.S., of which I showed you one example in the video. Show me your street-legal, ten-second Silvia/180SX/240SX here in the U.S...

Very very true, have a very good friend who drives one
As for 240s here...One of those near me too. If you guys remember an old member/moderator here and back at PH, her name was Ryuuko, when she used to come over and chill/race with me, I think one of her friends had a 240 and he claimed to be in the 10s. I could be wrong on that though, not positive they were friends, but they both used to come over and race. Either way, both my friend's civic and that 240 are VERY impressive cars

[TatII]

well like us 240 guys said. the 2 guys that have 10 second 240's street legal are DUI and JAY. they both run turbo KA's i believe. plus i would definitly know about DUI because Anthony from Realnissan knows him pretty well. and i was just with Anthony last weekend and i was talkin to him about 10 second 240's. and he said that DUI's is a 10 second one.