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from experience, it's pretty difficult to rewire a 93 SR20DE ecu and harness...
I'm not talking about what you attempted.

I'm talking about rewiring the ECU connector for the wiring harness. It involves removing a few wires and putting them in a different pin position. As I said, there are a number of people on the SE-R Mailing List who have done this. No big deal. Some of them used to whine about it, but when they finally attempted it, they found it was simple.
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the only thing that bothers me is the fact no ecu is made for the 99+.
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and to P10DET just because im asking a lot of questions to further educate myself on the g20 how is that whining and bitching(especially when 2 other people in here also don't think its as easy as you say)? just because you presuppose that I should know everything about the car and how to upgrade it already?
It's whining a bitching because I addressed your question with the fact that there may be a simple solution if you just look into it. Did you? No. You just went on about it and have made the assumption that it's a major deal. In fact, you went on about some crap about giving you a written guarantee.

Now for the facts. What other car can you go out and buy and be able to get a factory ECU retuned for a turbo set-up or almost any other set-up? Why do owners of most other marques have to resort to either stand-alone ECUs or dial-a-booms (piggy-backs)?

Lastly, as I stated, people have given you answers to your questions and you just continue to complain. I'm certainly not the only one to answer your questions. As far as I see it, you only want to hear the answers you want. Asking questions and learning is great. But to learn you have to listen. Seems to me you are more interested in complaining and telling us what you think.

Let's look at it closer. You come in here and ask questions because people have experience with the car and you don't. But, when you get answers, all you do is tell us what you think. Why ask questions if you aren't going to listen?
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hey G22DET
can yours beat a standard S15 spec R? it's just out of interest.....
Dude if we had those cars here in North America I wouldn't be driving a G20. Oops I shouldn't have said that.
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Why ask questions if you aren't going to listen?
why answer if you're just gonna bitch about answering the questions?

i have been listening to everyone's answers and hence the uncertainty....one person says this and then you say this....should i discredit everyone else and only listen to you? if you don't believe me go back to the very beginning of this thread tell me who besides yourself addresses the ecu problem and you'll find you are the one answering most of the time...one man's opinion does not make it canon.


g22det....

i know if you don't have suspension to match the horsepower it's pretty moot....i never said i wasn't going to....but for a stock set up it's great. sorry i don't drag....but i want to get a turbo in the car...hence the topic...hence i need the ecu....suspension will come and so will brakes.

z32 vs g20? HA! would you like to set something up?

im a nissan enthusiast and a Rustang is out of the question.
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sure, Nov. 24, Streets of Willow...show up or shut up I'll give your Z32 a good run. Promise.

if you want to get a turbo in your car...get a DET motor, u can use your stock ecu and harness (that's what i have) and tune it with HKS's famous F-Con V software, if you are in SCal, i know someone (the only one in the US) that's a licensed HKS Tuner and they have all the software to use with the F-Con to make your car run perfect. Or, if you really want to do something about the ECU, get rid of it!! and go for a standalone...it's not THAT expensive if you try the DTA, works really well and it's a fraction of the cost of the MoTec.

anyway, Jason, i would dump my car and get a S15 as well...in an instant! hehe
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G22DET how much has your setup cost you so far?im thinking i can put up 5000 on a down payment and have 4000 for aftermarket parts...is that gonna be enough.....


btw...um i don't have my Z i just sold it...hence im getting either the g20 or the altima...


but if you wanna run a z i can ask some z owners just give me the directions...
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for those Z owners that go to track events and live in Cali, they dont need directions, they know where it is. it would be fun if some other nissans show up besides S13, S14s hehe

$4k will be barely enough to get everything installed.
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well, let me rephrase that.
$4k will get probably get you these:
DET motor - $1500 (from me)
installation - free - $2500 depending where u go (the place i went charges $2300 and that's including the down pipe and all the intercooler pipings.)
Blow off valve - $200 or so
front mount intercooler - we have our own intercooler for $550.
that's probably what you'll have with $4k.
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i can get most mechanical parts installed myself but it's the electrical stuff i have problems with and i got a few hookups here and there....how much just for parts though....

i'll let you know who's down to go the track....

also how much louder is it than stock?
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loud as in? u can definitely hear the "hissing" sound from the turbo spooling...but if you meant the exhaust (which i assume u'll get) the turbo actually makes the exhaust a lot quieter...too quiet for my taste.
if you gonna do the labor yourself, then u get get more parts such as turbo timer (ahem, George), boost controller, boost gauge, oil temp/pressure gauge, egt gauge, larger injectors. to get the F-Con stuff from HKS is very expensive...and you have to get heir VPC too and plus tuning would be a lot of money. but ti's worth it.
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Oh oops is that right? no SR20DET 200SXs for you guys aye??

Sorry i really didn't know about it
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Oh oops is that right? no SR20DET 200SXs for you guys aye??

Sorry i really didn't know about it
Nope. No S15.

Our S13 and S14 came with the KA24DE only.
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for those Z owners that go to track events and live in Cali, they dont need directions, they know where it is. it would be fun if some other nissans show up besides S13, S14s hehe
I'd be really surprised if there wasn't a bunch of the SERCA folks there, including some G20 owners. The SE-R folks there are drawn to track events like moths to a flame.

There are some really good drivers in the SE-R group with some really good cars. If Rob Cadle is there with his NA, stock internal SE-R, don't be surprised if he passes you. He's laying down 175 to the wheels and that is with stock ECU maps (just raised rev limit). He's a great driver with a well set-up car. I'll see if I can find out who is going.

Glad to see you getting out to the track Luke. If you hook up with the SE-R folks, they'll get you set up right Listen to those folks. They are fast and experienced.
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why answer if you're just gonna bitch about answering the questions?
Well I didn't know you weren't going to listen to the answers. See below for a great example.

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i have been listening to everyone's answers and hence the uncertainty....one person says this and then you say this....should i discredit everyone else and only listen to you? if you don't believe me go back to the very beginning of this thread tell me who besides yourself addresses the ecu problem and you'll find you are the one answering most of the time...one man's opinion does not make it canon.
Once again you won't listen. I said you should call JWT to see if the ECU connector for the G20 can be rewired to use a earlier ECU like they can with the SE-R. I don't know if it will work or not. I suspect it will, but I never said for sure it would So call them or stop bitching for cying out loud. If you refuse to call, all I can assume is that you really don't care about it and just want to bitch and whine.

If that's the case, don't worry, I've answered the last question from you that I'm going to answer.
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well, i am pretty experienced too haha..but 2 years of experience (about 15 events?) doesnt really make me a great driver though...still learning as there's is LOTS to be learned. would love to go withs ome really experienced drivers, see how htye tackle the track is alwasy interesting. i've driven with couple of pro. racers and they have enlightened me a lot of different lines to take, it's really interesting and fun. hopefully some of you out there would take the chance and go to a road track once, it's very very fun. Right George?
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