BMW Museum in Munich.

[Sami Aaltonen]

Absolutely stunning stuff!

Hmmm again, I saw something very strange indeed.

#24R Longtail, was in 1997 Le Mans, Piquet, Soper, Lehto.
The car showed at the Museum is number #42 so it must be #24R then?
But chassis plate tells it to be #26R. Very........interesting. Same story than #18R case is...? Must be?

[DocGTR]

Sami,

24R was lend to Gulf Team Davidoff after Le Mans 1997 as their chassis 22R had the fire in the LM'97 practise (DNS due to that) but then in Suzuka FIA GT practise John Nielsen almost distroyed the 24R and went to extensive repair before selling to EMKA that raced it in BGTC 1998 in the red EMKA/EMI/Harman Kardon livery used also in Le Mans 1998 as #40 that it also has today and was recently raced in a couple of 90's revival races. BMW kept the 26R that Lehto/Soper raced in FIA GT '97 second half of the season till the Sebring fire and some point reliveried it to the #42 even though really raced as #43 in LM'97. A bit similar story as with the 18R relivery to LM'96 16R #38 with the 17R's number 39. Maybe someone closer to BMW could explain at some point the reasons for these "faults".

[hurstg01]

new clearer #26R chassis plate added here

[Sami Aaltonen]

Originally Posted by DocGTR

Sami,

24R was lend to Gulf Team Davidoff after Le Mans 1997 as their chassis 22R had the fire in the LM'97 practise (DNS due to that) but then in Suzuka FIA GT practise John Nielsen almost distroyed the 24R and went to extensive repair before selling to EMKA that raced it in BGTC 1998 in the red EMKA/EMI/Harman Kardon livery used also in Le Mans 1998 as #40 that it also has today and was recently raced in a couple of 90's revival races. BMW kept the 26R that Lehto/Soper raced in FIA GT '97 second half of the season till the Sebring fire and some point reliveried it to the #42 even though really raced as #43 in LM'97. A bit similar story as with the 18R relivery to LM'96 16R #38 with the 17R's number 39. Maybe someone closer to BMW could explain at some point the reasons for these "faults".

OK, again great detail information about this. Fantastic!
I know those chassis during 97 season and LM 1997, that's why I was amazed about the chassis plate. Fortunately I were guite right tracks of this one.

Hmm maybe BMW wanted good examples of both GTR's with most closes livery of BMW history, FINA has been in the history common seen on BMW liveries. Maybe there wasn't any choice left. They wanted those two on the museum and they were have to make these different than they really were back 90's.
Maybe we someday got solution of this one.

[Peloton25]

Apparently #26R is being displayed in the Welt Museum now for anyone who might have a chance to visit:



>8^)
ER

[F1GTRUeno]

Entirely tempting to get a cheap flight and go, as skint as I am right now.

The museum is worth it full stop but I was gutted when I went that there wasn't an F1, missed the M8 as well.

Wonder how long it'll be there.

[hurstg01]

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[Peloton25]

After viewing the link Greg just shared this definitely looks like the time to go and visit. What a display!

>8^)
ER

[PatrickT82]

tempting! I havent seen 26R yet so I might just pay a visit to Munich this weekend, lol

[royle]

Hi all!

I may be near Munchen next week and of course I would like to se an F1 in person (finally). Is the #26R still on display there?

[Peloton25]

I don't know for sure - I did just find this new photo of it there posted July 31st on Instagram, but with no EXIF details to reference it could have been taken at any time really.



If you will be close you might as well go and give it a shot - the rest of what they typically have on display is also worth seeing.

>8^)
ER

[F1GTRUeno]

I'd urge anyone to go to Munich and to the museum anyway, both are brilliant places.

Just got a new job so can't really take a holiday but soon as I can I'm going back, hopefully #26R will be a permanent exhibit.

[royle]

Hi all! I'm back from my short trip, I have visited the place but sadly there's no McLarens on display anymore, just to let you know

No F1 for me then, but I still got to see some great cars in nearby Meilenwerk Stuttgart, including 3 F1 models (grey and white roadcar and a small longtail GTR in GULF livery). You can see them in the links below, as well as a quick gallery of some other cars that lie around there - a lot of Lambos (including Aventador), some Ferraris and stuff

Grey roadcar
GULF GTR (sorry for bad quallity, it was on the highest shelf in the store)
White roadcar

Meilenwerk Stuttgart gallery

cheers

[astonmartindbs001]

Damn! And just as I was lining up a trip to Germany around October or November later this year... Oh well, guess my F1 cherry will have to wait a little while more to be popped.

What scale were the models in? The silver one looks like the AutoART 1/18. The white one is a bit harder to peg, though it looks similar in size to the Minichamps/PMA 1/12 ones.

[royle]

I'm not sure about the scale, but I would think they were all Minichamps models, as they are located in a Minichamps store inside Meilenwerk... The grey and white one were of similar size, maybe white one a bit bigger, but both around 25-30cm, I guess. The GTR is a lot smaller at about 10cm (and if I had any money left from the trip, it could've been mine ). I hope this helps a bit.