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[jon@af]

Originally posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K


his manor if you will

if you look at Blair he uses a completely different composure he stands up straight and talks clearly.

Whereas bush leans on the podium and talk slow and patronisingly and states his fact with a smirk. He's a loser admitt it

I must admit, I do hate how Bush smirks. It's as though he is using his body language to say "Im right and I know it" But Im not too sure about the whole speech thing. I can understand what he says just fine, besides, I dont care about how he says things, I care about WHAT he says.

[Pick]

Originally posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K


his manor if you will

if you look at Blair he uses a completely different composure he stands up straight and talks clearly.

Whereas bush leans on the podium and talk slow and patronisingly and states his fact with a smirk. He's a loser admitt it

Bush cocky, I think not. When has he ever said a cocky or arrogant word? And it seems to me that you demonized Blair in a seperate post. Is that all the insults you have against Bush. He looks cocky and he smirks. You, my friend, are ignorant. Do you dislike him because he has faith in his country, or because he is straight, or because he is a christian?

[TexasF355F1]

I know I'm going to take heat for bringing Clinton into this, but I remember Clinton leaning on the podium while he would speak on occassion. IMO, Bush sounds a lot less fraudulant than Clinton did when he would speak. Sorry to bring him up Naki

[jon@af]

Originally posted by TexasF355F1
I know I'm going to take heat for bringing Clinton into this, but I remember Clinton leaning on the podium while he would speak on occassion. IMO, Bush sounds a lot less fraudulant than Clinton did when he would speak. Sorry to bring him up Naki

Nah, I dont think Clinton was fradulent when he talked. I liked Bill Clinton and thought that the whole Monica Lewinsky thing was stupid. If the Prez gets a ride on his slip n' slide it's not the business of the entire United States. Honestly, As I said before, I really dont care how they say something or how they are standing when they say it, I care about what they say because that is what matters most.

[TexasF355F1]

Originally posted by ILike2DriveCars
Nah, I dont think Clinton was fradulent when he talked. I liked Bill Clinton and thought that the whole Monica Lewinsky thing was stupid. If the Prez gets a ride on his slip n' slide it's not the business of the entire United States. Honestly, As I said before, I really dont care how they say something or how they are standing when they say it, I care about what they say because that is what matters most.

I can totally agree with that. I do notice that when Bush is leaning it usually occurs more when he is answering questions. I have to vouch for him though for leaning, b/c whenever I give speeches I feel more comfortable leaning than standing straight(my knees tend to lock up). Oh well I see what you are saying now and I agree.

[YogsVR4]

Originally posted by ILike2DriveCars
Nah, I dont think Clinton was fradulent when he talked. I liked Bill Clinton and thought that the whole Monica Lewinsky thing was stupid. If the Prez gets a ride on his slip n' slide it's not the business of the entire United States. Honestly, As I said before, I really dont care how they say something or how they are standing when they say it, I care about what they say because that is what matters most.

You've missed the point of the whole Lewinsky affair. It wasn't that he had sex with her. Thats how the people who wanted to frame the arguement want you to see it. If its about the sex then it doesn't really amount to much. I'm sure most presidents were getting some on the side (some more then others). The issue was that he lied under oath. If you or I do that we'd be spending time in the clink and paying a hefty fine.

You're right that it doesn't matter how someone says things, but it sure does matter when its under oath.

[taranaki]

Originally posted by YogsVR4


You've missed the point of the whole Lewinsky affair. It wasn't that he had sex with her. Thats how the people who wanted to frame the arguement want you to see it. If its about the sex then it doesn't really amount to much. I'm sure most presidents were getting some on the side (some more then others). The issue was that he lied under oath. If you or I do that we'd be spending time in the clink and paying a hefty fine.

You're right that it doesn't matter how someone says things, but it sure does matter when its under oath.

All politicians tell lies,twist the truth,get creative with the facts,make 2 and 2 equal 5 or 3 depending on how it suits their argument.If Clinton's actions were any less noble than any other politician[insert ironic laugh here],he'd have been booted out of office by his peers.

[NSX-R-SSJ20K]

Originally posted by Pick


Bush cocky, I think not. When has he ever said a cocky or arrogant word? And it seems to me that you demonized Blair in a seperate post. Is that all the insults you have against Bush. He looks cocky and he smirks. You, my friend, are ignorant. Do you dislike him because he has faith in his country, or because he is straight, or because he is a christian?

I hate blair because we have constant tax hikes.

You are ignorant.


Did i set out in my posts to insult Mr G. Bush

No

Did i say anything insulting

No

Does George W Bush's body language represent that of something which can interpreted by other countries as offensive

Yes

Do you honestly think the way My Bush conducts himself is that of a Distinguished Gentlemen

I surely hope not

Do you make random posts . ie calling me Ignorant (you don't know the meaning of the word look it up in a dictionary before using it and commenting unsubstantiated BS) What do you base me being ignorant on?

Your attitude sucks and is that of an extremely hard lined toughed up useless ignorant oblivious arrogant fool. Surely you can see that the US is fast becoming the least popular country in the world today.

[texan]

Originally posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K
Surely you can see that the US is fast becoming the least popular country in the world today.

While I am jumping into this rather late and as such won't comment on things said earlier, surely you can admit this is a VAST overstatement of the truth. The US, while the target of a considerable groundswell of criticism, is nowhere near becoming the least popular of countries. More people wish to immigrate here than to any other place in the world.

[taranaki]

Originally posted by texan


While I am jumping into this rather late and as such won't comment on things said earlier, surely you can admit this is a VAST overstatement of the truth. The US, while the target of a considerable groundswell of criticism, is nowhere near becoming the least popular of countries. More people wish to immigrate here than to any other place in the world.

I think that in terms of foreign policy,it would be hard to dispute that the U.S. reputation has declined dramatically over the past year.There are always going to be people who see the lowest of living standards in th U.S. as being better than what they can achieve in their own country,America exists on a history of immigration,and will continue to do so.In comparitive terms,the U.S. is still underpopulated when compared with parts of Europe and Asia.

[Pick]

Originally posted by taranaki


All politicians tell lies,twist the truth,get creative with the facts,make 2 and 2 equal 5 or 3 depending on how it suits their argument.If Clinton's actions were any less noble than any other politician[insert ironic laugh here],he'd have been booted out of office by his peers.

The problem with booting Clinton is that many liberals believed he should stay in office, as did a few conservatives. I personally think that if Nixon should have been kicked(I know he resigned), that Clinton should have followed suit. But I see your point.

[NSX-R-SSJ20K]

Originally posted by texan


While I am jumping into this rather late and as such won't comment on things said earlier, surely you can admit this is a VAST overstatement of the truth. The US, while the target of a considerable groundswell of criticism, is nowhere near becoming the least popular of countries. More people wish to immigrate here than to any other place in the world.

yea but that isn't due to foreign policy

its due to the high pay rate and large amount of freedom

When i was in Texas there were still people living there who hated the states.

There was one story about some iranian woman who went into a pizzaria and ordered 10 pizza's they asked her what she was celebrating and it was the fact that they crashed two planes into the WTC.

To say people immigrate because they like the country is slightly misleading. They like the jobs and the money they don't like the politics.

I just don't like Bush's Manorism is represts a lack of respect.

I don't mean to say that the US is the least popular but i can't think of another country which is less popular maybe israel for the Arab States and maybe North Korea for the Asian states but the popularity rating of both the US and Great Britain has plumeted severly as compared to other countries but the swift end has elevated it a bit. I just want to point out that the US isn't well liked and i have a problem with defending my opinion of the US (i really like texas) against other people from England and a Canadian Couple who disliked America fiercely before the war.

[texan]

Originally posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K


yea but that isn't due to foreign policy

its due to the high pay rate and large amount of freedom

Exactly (not to mention the great educational facilities). In other words, a country's popularity is not decided based solely on it's foreign policy, so your assertion of America becoming the least popular nation was actually in reference to your opinion about our foreign policy. America is and will continue to be one of the most popular countries *overall* for the foreseeable future.

I'm curious though, what in your estimation would be a better tack for our foreign policy? Is it just the war that has you feeling this way, or a larger problem?

[NSX-R-SSJ20K]

Originally posted by texan


Exactly (not to mention the great educational facilities). In other words, a country's popularity is not decided based solely on it's foreign policy, so your assertion of America becoming the least popular nation was actually in reference to your opinion about our foreign policy. America is and will continue to be one of the most popular countries *overall* for the foreseeable future.

I'm curious though, what in your estimation would be a better tack for our foreign policy? Is it just the war that has you feeling this way, or a larger problem?

Hey i got nothing against the US i just don't like the way George W Bush is behaving during the war it seems irresponsible to me.

I also pointed out that people may still seek to go to America but they still will disagree with its government and the way it conducts itself

Politically it is Unpopular. For living, learning and Working it is popular but this does not mean that these people like being there for any other reason. If you look at it its a nice piece of land with opportunity but otherwise people disagree with its politics.

[texan]

Again, you are overstating and generalizing the situation. Politically it is unpopular to some people. To others it's just fine. And you're mostly speaking of our foreign policy in a specific area of the world, most of our politics are not in question.

I am not attacking your point of view on our politics or it's validity, I am simply asking you to reavelaute your statements that generalize a portion of the world's disapproval of a small portion of our foreign policy into the ridiculous blanket statement that "America is unpopular". America is hugely popular, and this is also true regarding most of our politics. It's not until you start talking about our policies in the Middle East that people start getting offended, and again it's only some people. I have friends in France, Russia, England and other places that wholeheartedly agree with what we are doing. More so than I do in fact.