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Old 05-05-2003, 02:39 AM   #31
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Ok, here is my shit about this.

I have the Bel 980 radar/laser detector, and it works great for exactly what it's supposed to do - DETECT! It's hard to beat the performance of it without paying lots.

I also have the Blinder M-10 Plus Laser JAMMER. Now, this IS illegal, but who the fuck cares right?!

My M-10 Has defeated 3 types of laser guns so far, in real life, and has been tested against ALL of them and has jammed them ALL.

I have never had a laser ticket since I've had it, and it gives me an annoying beeping sound when it's jamming, so I slow down and then turn it off when I am doing under the limit.

Cops can't say shit, because if they accuse me of anything I can basically tell them to fuck off since they have no definative proof of it.

K-40 Laser Diffuser also works, along the same lines in principle, and Bel Labs supposably made one too, but I have never seen it, so.....

Anyways, my laser jammer has two units, mounted in my bumper, on both sides of where the liscence plate is supposed to be. It emits a class 1 laser, so that's why it's illegal (police guns use class 3). Also, it's illegal because I am JAMMING the signal. I can read the signal, but I can't ram it.

So, in conjunction with my Bel 980 and Blinder M-10 I am pretty much invisible to the cops.

Mind you, I can't jam Ka radar band yet, but I don't speed in town anyways.

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Old 05-13-2003, 03:55 PM   #32
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they go off when there is radar signals in the air, most radar guns are mounted on the cops dash and they hardly ever have them turned on.. detectors are useless.. here in cali they are now illegal and cops are no longer required to use radar guns
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Old 05-13-2003, 05:30 PM   #33
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Detectors are legal in MD, but not DC/VA. I have a Passport 8500 and on a recent cross country drive from MD to AZ, I was tagged by quite a few lasers, as well as lots of radar. For ppl living around Columbus, OH beware.
The cops use a LOT of laser there. I had about 4 hits in the time it took me to pass through there plus a crap load of radar hits.
Anyway, I sped constantly on my trip and I didn't get one ticket. Experiences may vary.
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http://www.radartest.com/DS4HEM.html
watch out for akron too, they have a crapload of cops there at night due to it being a party college. all using lasers...

i use mine and it's worked great. on hiway it's almost flawless, in the city the cops really dont use radar but it points them out occasionally. you still have to watch for cops no matter what... sometimes it doesn't pick them up.
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Old 05-13-2003, 05:41 PM   #34
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up here in cali the cops only use Ka, in town and on the highway/freeway, ive never ever gotten a laser readout on my detector. right now i have 1 at-fault accidnet, and 2 tickets, one of which im doing traffic school for so after the school ill have 2 points, 1 more and i lose my license so im going to be goody 2shoes for a while... dont need my radar detector anymore
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Old 05-13-2003, 07:48 PM   #35
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12 points within 2 yrs is the suspension in ohio...

i think i have 4. i gotta watch out for that 6 pt drag racing
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Old 05-13-2003, 10:18 PM   #36
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up here in cali the cops only use Ka, in town and on the highway/freeway, ive never ever gotten a laser readout on my detector. right now i have 1 at-fault accidnet, and 2 tickets, one of which im doing traffic school for so after the school ill have 2 points, 1 more and i lose my license so im going to be goody 2shoes for a while... dont need my radar detector anymore

Where in CA are you located?


And how do police determine the rate of your speeding while he/she's on the highway?
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Old 09-15-2003, 02:07 AM   #37
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Hey I've a question for everyone. I heard a LOONG time ago of a guy that was speeding in excess of 20+ over the limit. Is was clearly a speeder and so the cop on the side of the road clocked him, which he had nothing. The cop was a typical Highway Patrol and pulled him over, doing a through search for a jammer and eventually let the guy go because he couldn't find one on the guy. How/why? The guy had custom made his car with a coat of metal that reflected the radar back, thereby effectively jamming the signal. I've scoured all over the net and can't find that metal. Any chemists here that have any idea?
By the way, it WASN'T a spray on (although I'm curious how much those actually work)
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Old 09-15-2003, 02:42 AM   #38
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Re: Radar/Laser detectors!

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Hey I've a question for everyone. I heard a LOONG time ago of a guy that was speeding in excess of 20+ over the limit. Is was clearly a speeder and so the cop on the side of the road clocked him, which he had nothing. The cop was a typical Highway Patrol and pulled him over, doing a through search for a jammer and eventually let the guy go because he couldn't find one on the guy. How/why? The guy had custom made his car with a coat of metal that reflected the radar back, thereby effectively jamming the signal. I've scoured all over the net and can't find that metal. Any chemists here that have any idea?
By the way, it WASN'T a spray on (although I'm curious how much those actually work)
Where did you hear about this?

I'm skeptical only because you aren't supposed to have that stuff outside of military use.

He must of had some nice connections!

I want to meet this person!

In any case, all it was most likely is the same stuff they use on fighter jets and tanks (the metal ones). It absorbs the radar signal and since nothing gets bounced back they have no idea where it is (or how fast).

The comosite plastic tanks in use today use similar technology but they acomplish this with a woven fabric.

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Old 09-15-2003, 02:49 AM   #39
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As I said, I can't recall exactly where I heard it, I believe it was a tape or something a friend sent me. Either way though, I'd love to get my hands on a little to deck out my soon-to-be-Camaro SS (as soon as I can fricking find one!) I lost my radar jammer when I sold the Mustang seen below, I forgot it until the guy saw the car, so he conned me into giving it to him with the car. That's alright, I can always get another.

But yeah, if you or anyone reading this hears anything more about that metal stuff, e-mail me or msg me on any of the messengers.
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Re: Radar/Laser detectors!

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As I said, I can't recall exactly where I heard it, I believe it was a tape or something a friend sent me. Either way though, I'd love to get my hands on a little to deck out my soon-to-be-Camaro SS (as soon as I can fricking find one!) I lost my radar jammer when I sold the Mustang seen below, I forgot it until the guy saw the car, so he conned me into giving it to him with the car. That's alright, I can always get another.

But yeah, if you or anyone reading this hears anything more about that metal stuff, e-mail me or msg me on any of the messengers.
What jammer was it?

You can find out more info about the radar absorbing metal by searching military sites or stuff like the Discovery channel (as they did a show on it).

Good luck finding out how to make it. As far as I know, it's classified.

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Old 09-15-2003, 04:26 AM   #41
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Uh d'oh...I meant to post it...oh well, here it is:
http://www.amazing-radar-jammers.com/media1.htm
It worked great, and I'd recommend it. Don't worry about the "ONLY 2 DAYS LEFT" BS...they update their site every hour...
Now I KNOW I posted this somewhere else...I'm having some bad Deja Vu... oh well. You can see the link twice then Enjoy!
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Re: Radar/Laser detectors!

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The guy had custom made his car with a coat of metal that reflected the radar back, thereby effectively jamming the signal. I've scoured all over the net and can't find that metal. Any chemists here that have any idea?
By the way, it WASN'T a spray on (although I'm curious how much those actually work)


first of all as spy said those are radar absorbing materials not reflecting materials....a radar reflecting material will only make you more visible.....

second those materials are classified and if you get caught smugling something like it from a military base you would get charged with treason....

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Uh d'oh...I meant to post it...oh well, here it is:
http://www.amazing-radar-jammers.com/media1.htm
It worked great, and I'd recommend it. Don't worry about the "ONLY 2 DAYS LEFT" BS...they update their site every hour...
Now I KNOW I posted this somewhere else...I'm having some bad Deja Vu... oh well. You can see the link twice then Enjoy!

i'm sorry but those jammers are bull...they are only good fore ripping people off....read this:

http://www.radartest.com/JOS.html
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Old 09-15-2003, 01:00 PM   #43
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After reading the article, I do wonder, but nonetheless I'll likely buy another, since I was never pulled over with it on me. Being conned or not, I felt better and much more relaxed.

Treason? I suppose...its not like I'm making it, just applying it to my car. Its basically the same stuff used in stealth fighters I'd assume, but hey, whatever
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Old 09-15-2003, 04:14 PM   #44
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Re: Radar/Laser detectors!

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Uh d'oh...I meant to post it...oh well, here it is:
http://www.amazing-radar-jammers.com/media1.htm
It worked great, and I'd recommend it. Don't worry about the "ONLY 2 DAYS LEFT" BS...they update their site every hour...
Now I KNOW I posted this somewhere else...I'm having some bad Deja Vu... oh well. You can see the link twice then Enjoy!
I've seen proof that those don't work.

Don't take this as me insulting you, just that I'm telling you what I know to try and help you out.

The Speed Measurement Labs tests all this stuff every year. They test the radar/laser detectors, radar jammer, and laser jammers.

I can tell you right now that sending an "FM" chirp to a laser gun will no nothing. You need a laser emitting device to counter the laser signal.

As for radar, an "FM" chirp wont work either. You need to send the same signal back, but inverted. You can jam X and K radar, but you cannot jam Ka since it uses a wide range of frequencies and not one fixed frequency.

You would be better off spending your money on a quality radar/laser detector like Val 1, Bel, or Escort, and later getting a laser jammer from Bel, K-40, or Blinder.

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What about the remote models like the passport SR7, and SRX? Obviously they have tested well http://www.radartest.com/article.asp?articleid=1048 does anyone have a comparable model, or one of these? How do you like it, and did you install it yourself? They do not seem that complicated to install. After all, most people in here have installed something or another on their car - how hard could this be?
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