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Sean, which paint is this? I checked Steve's site and the Williams blue/yellow seem to have gone?
Rob, if you type Williams in the search box on Hiroboy's site the Williams blue, yellow and white come up for me no problem.
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Which races were that? I tend to doubt that. Barcley is smoke as well, so I don't think that a double exposure of smokers are likely. Michele Alboreto had to abandon his Marlboro ties when driving for Tyrrell due to Camel sponsorship. In 1988 Lotus had the big Camel sponsorship and Benetton and Tyrrell had a small one.

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here's the picture of the car, it is named FW12_late season so I presume it was raced or tested towards the end of the season. You can see there are both Camel and Barclays logos on it.

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here's the picture of the car, it is named FW12_late season so I presume it was raced or tested towards the end of the season. You can see there are both Camel and Barclays logos on it.

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It is a mish mash exhibition car. I know the pictures. Have never raced like that. Show me a race picture from 1988 that shows that and I' ll eat my own FW12. Clue? Well in 1988 Williams had another oilsponsor - Mobil 1 - and on this one it says Elf... Which came with engines from renault in 1989. Camel came as sponsor in 1991.

This is a picture from australia 1988. Much more late than that it can't be... Can't see any clue of Camel there.


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Never trust such "showcars". They are typically old cars "dressed up" with the new sponsors - sometimes even "repainted" in the new sponsor livery.
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It is a mish mash exhibition car. I know the pictures. Have never raced like that. Show me a race picture from 1988 that shows that and I' ll eat my own FW12. Clue? Well in 1988 Williams had another oilsponsor - Mobil 1 - and on this one it says Elf... Which came with engines from renault in 1989. Camel came as sponsor in 1991.

This is a picture from australia 1988. Much more late than that it can't be... Can't see any clue of Camel there.


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oh goody! Oh well, you win some, you lose some eh! Still, its a nice finish on the yellow so im dammed if Im starting again!
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Oh well, you win some, you lose some eh! Still, its a nice finish on the yellow so im dammed if I starting again!
That's the spirit! Keep your sanity and enjoy the build (I am!)
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I am too great work, as usual!!!
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Re: WIP: Williams FW12 1/20

more progress...

the offending yellow is on and finished. This has already had one polish using tamiya course & fine compounds and the a final wash with Johnsons.



while the shell has been drying properly I turned my attention to the cockpit. This is the kit seat (aw bless! )...



seems almost unthinkable to leave the moulded belts on these days and just paint them, here's the finished article.



The seat is covered with Embossing powder and I used Scale Motorsport hardware which is superb, for the belts I used some material I bought from a company called DC Models. Tt took forever to arrive however the stuff is the best I have seen and I will be using this from now on for all my belts.

Having left the shell for two days I have started adding the decals...



Boy was it tricky, lots of gaps and fit problems with the S27 shell and the decals. I think Flemming commented that his went on a dream, either he got a good one or I have had a exceptionally bad one, however after a lot of patience testing time I'm over the hardest ones.



The shell will need a final polish and further coat of Johnsons when the remaining decals are done, also left to do is pick out the panel lines with some brown ink.

oh and finally, out of interest I came across this pic of a test version of the FW12, check out the rear wing... or lack of I should say...



so, nearly there as they say, thanks as always for following.
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Nice work Sean (as ever). I have a question about the metal fastener that connects the seat-belt to the tub... did you make that yourself, or is it aftermarket? If it is the former, do you have any tips about the diameter of wire, etc. If it is the later, what is it and where is it from? The reason I ask is that I will need to do something for my F189 as I too have deleted the moulded seat-belt.

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Re: WIP: Williams FW12 1/20

Looking great, Sean

I just noticed a sponsor's decal for Denim on the rear of the car. Woudl that be the aftershave I remember from the '70s/'80s? The one for "The man who doesn't have to try.....too hard"?
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The seat is covered with Embossing powder
The seat looks excellent. What is Embossing powder and where do you buy this stuff.
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Re: WIP: Williams FW12 1/20

Looking great Sean!! Seat does look fantastic, especially the straps and buckles.I think the yellow you used looks perfect as well.It's certainly bright enough and not too orange looking like the Camel yellow.
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What is Embossing powder and where do you buy this stuff.
You can buy it on ebay its very common, its very cheap and comes in small pots and will last forever. Craft shops also sell it. It is just a very fine powder and ia available in lots of colours.

I simply apply a heavy coat of paint to the part then pour the powder over the top of the paint. I keep a piece of paper underneath to catch all the surplus and this all goes back into the pot. I then spray it with a matt varnish to seal it, job done!

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Nice work Sean (as ever). I have a question about the metal fastener that connects the seat-belt to the tub... did you make that yourself, or is it aftermarket? If it is the former, do you have any tips about the diameter of wire, etc. If it is the later, what is it and where is it from? The reason I ask is that I will need to do something for my F189 as I too have deleted the moulded seat-belt.

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Thanks Bill,

I made the belt holders myself. I simply used a thin piece of wire bent into a 'U' shape using the etch mate. I make the gap slightly bigger than the width of the belt material and drilled the seat back to accommodate it, finally adding an etched bolt head either side of the fastener.
The wire I use is quite thin, I dont know what diameter it is sorry Bill.
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Looking great, Sean

I just noticed a sponsor's decal for Denim on the rear of the car. Woudl that be the aftershave I remember from the '70s/'80s? The one for "The man who doesn't have to try.....too hard"?
Hey, dont knock it Ste... that's my favourite aftershave and all I ever use! You can really pull the chicks with it .
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