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Old 02-13-2003, 06:23 PM
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Maybe its the modeler not the model

I think the people that complain more about Revell are people who have been modeling for a long time and are more "picky" about how the car looks and since some companies may make a kit that is "easier" to put together, companies that require a little bit more time and patience are considered horrible when they are cheaper. I could see people complaining about building box stock but if your modifying it you should have the skills to easily fit the "problems" with the kit.
I'm of the opinion that you don't offer products with problems. I work as a product manager and my philosophy is you engineer the best product for your price point. To me, the traditional approach for most companies has been to cut corners to meet a price point. This always leads to an inferior product. Revel, Fujimi, and others come to mind. The alternate view point is you engineer quality into your price point, and use innovation and planning to control costs. This is the approach Tamiya takes(Toyota, Honda, VW, Swatch, etc..).

Revel truly is an inferior product. You can't really say Revel kits are cheaper than Tamiya. Tamiya products are imported and have additional distribution costs. If you took adjusted FMC(Final Manufacturing Costs) values and retail mark up, and excluded distribution costs. Tamiya kits would be only 10-15% more. On a "GANT" plot I would also say Tamiya spends considerably more than Revel to enginner their products, with a corresponding decrease in manufacturing costs.

Just my two cents. Revel I am positive has the capability to rival if not exceed Tamita for quality. They choose not to do so. And in a free market, if the market demands quality they will eventually adapt or risk going out of business. So vote with your check book. If they have a kit you like but wouldn't buy for lack of quality. Write and let them know. If they're good business people, they will listen.
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Old 02-13-2003, 06:31 PM
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I have built many Revell kits and I think they are not bad though they do require more sanding and filling. Maybe I need to get a Tamiya kit to see the difference but Tamiya is more expensive and doesn't have full engine detail. But I have seen some nicely built Revell and AMT kits on this site (i.e. Kunta's 'Vettes)

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Engine detail schmengine detail !

OK it sums down to THIS !

Tamiya=QUALITY=$

Revell= bare minimum of quality= CHEAP.
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Lightbulb I feel the need to say it again...

To each, their own! Buy what you like, build what you like! There is no need to be in such disagreement about one's choice of models! Personally, I can take just about any model and make it look decent but then again, who cares what I can do with a model so I'll shut up and mind my own business
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It's pretty weird,I have two Revell models. My first, which is 99% done, and another one that is ready to be primed. The first one was one of those 2 in 1 where you can build a dragster or a stock. Never again will I buy one of those. The kit is horrible and lacking detail, even as a newbie modeler I can tell. The second kit is not a 2 in 1 and seems to be excellent quality (well, excellent compared to the 2 in 1). This being the reason or not, I am trying to stay with Tamiya models for the most part...
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Old 02-13-2003, 11:09 PM
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Re: How i hate Revell

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I HATE IT !! I HATE IT !! I HATTTEEE IT !!

My BMW 316I kit is the wost kit i've made, you wouldn't even call it a 1/24 scale BMW 316i. It had about 20 mistakes, the instruction sheet misses more parts that there are instructions. Pins are in the wrong place, holes are molded to the opposite and revese of the part.
When i was a kid I build my first revell, i think it was the testarosa. and it had mistakes too. Now i know why i hate revell
sorry but I FUCKING HATE THEM.
alright, that made me feel a little better. what a waste of my time this thing was. I'm glad the only kits i've bought now are Tamiya.
Is this a Revell AG kit? Or possibly a re-box? I've never even heard of such a kit from Revell!!
Anyway...Old arguement, same result... read this- Revell vs. Tamiya - Let's get it on!!
Here is one of those damn Revell kits!

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All you guys who claim that you're never gonna buy a revell kit agian, I bet by the end of the year, you guys are all gonna show off your revell civics ...
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Old 02-13-2003, 11:18 PM
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LOL... You guys...

In an effort to be fair, let's list all the cars we that weer kitted by both Tamiya and Revell (and beware of reboxes! )

Of the top of my head:

Ferrari Testarossa
Ferrari Mythos
Ferrari F50
Ferrari 360 Spyder
Nissan [Datsun] 240Z
~94 Ford Mustang (& Mustang Cobra)
...
What else...?
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VW bug I think.
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All you guys who claim that you're never gonna buy a revell kit agian, I bet by the end of the year, you guys are all gonna show off your revell civics ...
LOL!!! You KNOW he's RIGHT!! LOL!!!

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VW bug I think.
Oh, yeah. New and old, no doubt...
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true, compared to tamiya, revell is an inferior product. however, i must agree with jdm on the issue that it's in part innovation. i believe marketing and distribution is a major part of it as well. everyone on this board knows how 'bad' a revell kit can be but that doesn't stop any one of us from buying their products. in this business, the bottom line counts. if they still get your money, why spend more on engineering and tooling? it'll just keep eating their profits. they'll never get the tamiya market share so why compete directly? in this respect, i believe they're doing a very good job in both running their business and keeping their existing fans happy with new subjects (the new civic coming out, escalade, etc.)
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Oh, yeah. New and old, no doubt...
Ferrari F40
Ferrari 360 Modena
Ferrari Enzo (:o)
BMW M3
Ferrari F310B
Ferrari F1-2000
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Ferrari F40
Ferrari 360 Modena
Ferrari Enzo (:o)
BMW M3
Ferrari F310B
Ferrari F1-2000
When has Tamiya made a BMW M3??
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When has Tamiya made a BMW M3??
I though it was called M3, but it's still the same car Revell makes.
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