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Old 02-07-2003, 09:21 PM
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How about an available link to the AF Chat provided by Mentel? I bet more people would use it if it were readily available.
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Old 02-07-2003, 11:21 PM
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OK..........So here are the best ideas

1/Painting
2/Trade
3/Help/FAQ's
4/Customisation
5/Progress threads/Finished products

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Old 02-08-2003, 07:25 AM
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I think the forum is ok like this.. I don'T know what happen last 2 week, but some ppl (not a lot maybe 3 or 4) started to flame everyone that post even if it was about modeling....

I even been flamed about my thread when I ask what color should I make my Supra.. damn If I can't ask for idea without having flame, I'm off of this forum

I think those ppl really should find a solution for them. If they dont like to see what ppl have ordered, then dont click on a topic with "new order" name. IF you dont like a thread.. dont post in it ! I like to see what other ppl are ordering, that give me idea.. I like to have some news about car modeling.. but right now, I start to lost fun in this forum becose those 3 or 4 ppl that flame everyone that post a litle off topic.

Dont post if you dont have pic.. I remember when Warren didn't have is Fuji Cam, he made thread talking about what he is doing and everyone was happy with this.. Why should it be different with a newbee ? Becore everyone lick Warren Ass ? (sorry bad language.. PG-13 )

Yes some post is off topic, but flaming will not solve problem.. IF someone say it's off topic and direct him to the right place, we dont need 30 post on this threat to tell the guy he is an idiot or that this forum is now sucking... he is not and I like it like that...

Sorry for my english, but if that continue, it will be one of my last message
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Old 02-08-2003, 01:57 PM
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Vric, I completely understand and agree with mostly what you are saying. But let me tell you this. Never ever leave something you like because of some-one. It's OK to leave something for something, but not because of some-one anoying you, flaming you or whatever there is you don't like. If you do, you will keep on quitting for people and thus leaving other people behind who you actually like. I'd hate to see some good people, like you, leave this place because of very small minority who can't appreciate this forums and therefor making a sour atmosphere. Kicker1solo rightly pointed out that the "Ignore list" is a very good feature, and I'm using it now too. So whoever act "childish" in this place is thrown immediately at my "IL" list - nice abbreviation btw.

So again, a Tutorial is a good idea, but I'm not in favour of splitting the whole place up, unless like Hiro stated, when it becomes too big - and here is my point - we can change then because of something and not because of somebody. Unfortunately minorities always shoud the loudest and humans tend to act upon that, which IMO is wrong.

And please we can't serve everybodies likings. So a golden "midway" should be found.
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Old 02-08-2003, 02:17 PM
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Okay, guys.

I've been reading and thinking.

What about this.

I propose this idea;

Create a whole new site/forums.

This can be easily done. The only fact of the matter is who will host it (I can but we should look towards other options - I have not enough hardware to host all these hits).

So, someone goes and visits "www.afmodels.com"

Window comes up, it's nothing but a nice big friendly forum strictly for modelling. It does not clutter up the original AF, it has its own server space, its own domain name. It's it's own entirety. Lot's of good can come from having this, and lots of bad. It's definatly somethign to discuss, and I think it's a hell of a lot better than just creating sub forums. Plus, this way we can keep track of exactly how many 'members' we have that participate these forums.
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Old 02-08-2003, 02:19 PM
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Okay, guys.

I've been reading and thinking.

What about this.

I propose this idea;

Create a whole new site/forums.

This can be easily done. The only fact of the matter is who will host it (I can but we should look towards other options - I have not enough hardware to host all these hits).

So, someone goes and visits "www.afmodels.com"

Window comes up, it's nothing but a nice big friendly forum strictly for modelling. It does not clutter up the original AF, it has its own server space, its own domain name. It's it's own entirety. Lot's of good can come from having this, and lots of bad. It's definatly somethign to discuss, and I think it's a hell of a lot better than just creating sub forums. Plus, this way we can keep track of exactly how many 'members' we have that participate these forums.
And might I add, we can have as many different forums as we want
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Old 02-08-2003, 06:13 PM
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Okay, guys.

I've been reading and thinking.

What about this.

I propose this idea;

Create a whole new site/forums.

This can be easily done. The only fact of the matter is who will host it (I can but we should look towards other options - I have not enough hardware to host all these hits).

So, someone goes and visits "www.afmodels.com"

Window comes up, it's nothing but a nice big friendly forum strictly for modelling. It does not clutter up the original AF, it has its own server space, its own domain name. It's it's own entirety. Lot's of good can come from having this, and lots of bad. It's definatly somethign to discuss, and I think it's a hell of a lot better than just creating sub forums. Plus, this way we can keep track of exactly how many 'members' we have that participate these forums.
I can't agree to this, because when it totally splits from AF, then it isn't AF no more. That means less people that can come around when they are venturing on the total AF board. And isn't that what AF is meant to be? A large gathering of people that can look for everything? That's how this part began. Some people where modelling and found each other on some parts of AF, Finally they joined together with their ideas and create this place : Af Carmodeling. So there was no need to change server or something and so it remained accesible to any one. And allthough it hsa grown al lot since I joined, it is still the best place to go. But when you change to another site it will be another place with unfamiliar faces.



Splitting up this place looks the best idea but only when it is far to crowded. I still now of a time that it took a week to get one page filled with threads. Now it is so busy since we have a new servr that every day to pages can be filled with new messages. Half of those with clear thread topics half with something that makes me wonder what it is all about. So I would first like to see that anyone makes their thread title more clear so that you now what your going to read. This will make it look much tidier and can be overseen, also will make it look less crowded. Splitting up is then less required.

Last of all, we all should be and stay friendly to each other like it was a couple of months ago. So what if someone is an asshole, he can still act like a normal human (I hope..) at least when he wants nice replies... If you don't like what someone builds say it with nice words that it isn't your style or point out his mistake and give advice on how to improve that part. That way he (hopefully) will see it as upgradable critics and nto aas flaming. We have many different people here with many different styles and opinions and we should respect that. I personnaly can't like Nascar or Formula 1 but someone can still build a good model, so I got 2 things I can do. 1. don't respond, because I don't like the subject or 2. Say he did a good job but it isn't my kind of liking. That way I won't discredit him but still give his work some appreciation. When replying to threads don't only think of your own feelings but also of the one that posted the thread. Two reason I don't post pics are: 1. I can't handle negative response to well 2. I really suck at taking pictures I can focus on everything but the models. But I work on both and hope to improve.

Also demanding everyone to speak//type in perfect English is something I can't understand. Ok, most people on this board ar from the USA so they should be able to use normal language. But others have to rely on translation machines and we all know they aren't the best things one the web. They work for literal translations but grammar is something most haven't heard from. But using Street language like Ali G uses and L33T speak is something most don't like to read and probably only understand after reading it multiple times. So that has to be banned from here, no-one learns English that way, so don't force us to learn it too, only to understand your question.


It was a lot of typing but for now I'm out of subjects and very sleepy.
No one should feel flamed about this it is only my opinion.

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Old 02-08-2003, 06:27 PM
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I don't think he was talking about the people using the translators. Atleast I hope not. I think he was referring to the people that talk with with a of slang and "simplified" words. Which I can't stand either. I give credit to the users using translators because they are atleast making it readable for the english speaking people. Also when people are talking in "slang" it makes it very hard for the non-english speaking users to understand it because the translator probably can't read it either.
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Old 02-08-2003, 06:35 PM
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You are right, he most probably talked about using slang etc., but I saw in other posts that someone got flamed of his very bad english while he used a translator, so that's why I brought it up. And since it is about how or why someone types certain things, I placed it in the same part of my text, trying to keep same subjects in the same part. At least you can sum it up where I fail and place long texts

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Old 02-08-2003, 08:36 PM
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I think we should give it time to see if the issue's that are annoying us here settle down. I'm not to keen on the idea of subsections, i much prefer to have all the threads on one screen in front of me so i can sift through them, good or bad.
I agree!

I say leave it as is. I joined AF about a year and a bit ago, and i must say this format has been quite beneficial. Flamming is inevitable in any online forum, just take a minute to think about it, it's available to so many indivduals with so many different views and perspectives from all around the world! there's bound to be conflict here and there. Now i understand that the past couple of weeks have been a little more "rough" than usual, but i'm quite sure the best in everyone will come out again. and if not....

My suggestion to all AF members: just ignore it! So called stupid threads, vulgar posting, insults, etc. will die off is they are simply given no attention. If someone criticises your work, it's cause they can't do any better, so instead of flamming the jerk, ignore it. Sooner or later a moderator will remove it. And if you really can't take it use the "report to a moderator" feature. it's there for a reason! cool?

Improvements to AF:

A "solid thread" (always residing at the top) of completed projects, divided by automobile brand, irrelevant kit manufacturer. where only one post can be made by the owner of the car.

Somewhat like a "collective-active" photo gallery. (no offence jay) but this way we can control the gallery, resulting in very frequent updates, along with all the same type of cars being in the same place therefore when building "that" kit, we can see all that have been previously built within one thread!

Hope that helps Gentleman!
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All I can suggest at this time is that the newcomers take a week or so to learn the forums before posting. I know there's a vBulletin function or script that allows newcomers to only post replies and not new threads until they've been a member for a certain time. It could prove useful...
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I would like to see AF stay like it is. sub-forums dosent seem like a good idea to me.
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Maybe we should cut the word "rice"
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Maybe we should cut the word "rice"

That's a totally different subject and it hasn't been brought up in a while.
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Allright then, I have been a member for over a year now and visit this site everyday, i have watched this forum grow to what it is now, the best modelling forum on the internet with the most talented modellers there is. I think it should stay the same unless it becomes to big and needs to change, as for people causing trouble we should ignore these idiots and they will go away(they always do), so lets all treat each other the way we want to be treated ourselves and get on with the modelling. regards. Bob.
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